Will there be death panels in Obamacare?

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Despite House Speaker John Boehner’s huffing and puffing, Obamacare (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) is a reality.
The Nov. 6, 2012, elections reelected Obama to the White House and not only retained, but added to the Democratic majority in the U.S. Senate. Even before that, the Supreme Court in a 5:4 decision, already had ruled that Obamacare is constitutional and that the requirement of Americans to obtain health insurance or be penalized is merely a tax.
So, unless you’re in deep denial, Obamacare is a reality. FOTM has published posts on the Obamacare taxes coming our way. But what about another grave concern of ours — that of Obamacare death panels? Is the notion mere political hyperbole, or is it a real threat?
To answer that question, let’s look at two pieces of information.


The first is a statement by former president of the American Medical Association (AMA) Dr. Donald Palmisano, that Obamacare death panels are not a fantasy, but that such rationing panels pose an “immediate danger to seniors.”
In a Daily Caller column, Palmisano wrote that Obamacare’s Independent Payment Advisory Boards (IPAB), tasked with keeping Medicare expenses under control, would have little oversight as they deal with the disproportionate cost burden from elderly Americans with greater medical needs. The result “will essentially mean rationed care” for America’s elderly.
Palmisano wrote: “The 15 officials who will make up the board will not only be empowered to make what is expected to be billions of dollars’ worth of cuts to Medicare every year, but will be required to do so when spending exceeds targeted rates. IPAB’s recommended cuts will become law unless a supermajority in Congress vetoes the board’s proposal and creates its own cost-cutting proposal of equal size — an unlikely scenario even in the most harmonious of political times.”
Although the panels are expected to focus on cutting payments to the doctors themselves, Palmisano said that Medicaid providers are already being sucked dry, and warned that a more brutal form of rationing, using adjustments based on “quality of life” as already practiced in Great Britain, was likely in store.
“IPAB may eventually be allowed to resort to Great Britain’s chosen rationing methods and refuse to provide certain effective treatments to patients who need them based on costs and patients’ remaining ‘quality adjusted life years.’ Though the law currently forbids IPAB from engaging in such behavior, there is little reason to believe these rules won’t be changed — or at least stretched — down the road as costs continue to balloon and political dynamics change,” he wrote.
Palmisano warned that unless Congress undertakes a full repeal of Obamacare instead of piecemeal efforts, the most dangerous parts of the law, such as IPAB, will not be excised: “[I]f Congress misses what could be its last chance to eliminate IPAB — one of the most egregious aspects of the law — it will be doing a disservice to seniors who need good medical care now and in the near-term future.”


In his column, Palmisano warned that Obamacare’s IPAB “may eventually be allowed to resort to Great Britain’s chosen rationing methods and refuse to provide certain effective treatments to patients who need them based on costs and patients’ remaining “quality adjusted life years.” Here’s a recent shocking example of “death panels” in the UK — the Liverpool Care Pathway.
Brad Mattes, the executive director of the pro-life educational group Life Issues Institute, writes for LifeNews.com, Dec. 7, 2012:

There’s no crystal ball where we can see our future of national healthcare under Obamacare. However, there’s a very close model in the United Kingdom’s National Health Service (NHS). In fact, while we ponder the future of death panels and rationing of healthcare in the US, the UK is living it—and in many cases dying from it. So we can look at the NHS to see our future under Obamacare. […]

The Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) in the UK is a healthcare service that’s used when death is imminent, and it incorporates heavy doses of morphine to deal with what would otherwise be uncontrolled pain. It may seem to be a compassionate and empathetic notion, until you realize the system is being abused to serve as a fast-track pipeline to euthanize the most vulnerable patients.
What began as an effort to relieve suffering is now ending lives at a frightening pace. Here’s how the numbers play out:

  • Only 2–5% of patients require this level of sedation to control pain.
  • Yet, the LCP has been involved in the deaths of 130,000 patients who were elderly, terminally ill, or seriously ill but not dying. This is 29% of the 450,000 NHS deaths each year.
  • At many hospitals, over 50% of the patients who had died had been put on LCP.

[…] Assumptions are being made about what treatments are considered “futile” […] as a way to save money by limiting care to those who need it most.
The evidence is disturbing. Cancer patients are being put at the back of the line for routine services like x-rays and antibiotics. Surgeries for hip replacements, cataracts, and varicose veins are being rationed. Doctors are resorting to prescribing drinking water for neglected elderly patients to stop them from dying of thirst in the hospital. This method of dehydration and starvation has been used to end the lives of babies in a neonatal unit. There are numerous cases where patients are being killed who would otherwise be able to recover and live if only given proper treatment and essential nourishment.
When you follow the money trail, it leads to over $19 million that has been given as awards to trusts for hospitals that have hit their targeted number of patients put into LCP. It’s simply a fact that the centralization of healthcare will inevitably lead to dangerous rationing of care and perilous decisions surrounding quality of life.

Don’t believe for a moment that this couldn’t happen to you in America. The US Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of Obamacare, and the re-election of Barack Obama ensures this government-controlled behemoth will soon be breathing down your neck. It’ll likely be even worse considering proponents of Obamacare admitted from the beginning that the government isn’t close to funding all the healthcare expectations of Americans.

If you don’t want faceless government bureaucrats make life-or-death decisions for you, Mattes urges us to do two things:

  1. Take a firm stand against Obamacare by warning others about the real dangers of government-controlled healthcare.
  2. Make sure your family know your wishes by creating a will to live.


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0 responses to “Will there be death panels in Obamacare?

  1. I wonder how many Democrat voters will fall prey to the consequences of their vote.

  2. Will there be death panels in Obamacare?
    LOL – That’s like asking, “Do bears sh*t in the woods?”
    My guess is the airways and sea lanes between Florida, Bermuda, and the Bahamas are going to be getting pretty crowded in the not-too-distant future.
    Some of you know what I mean.

  3. It’s all about genocide, but the Bible tells me tht no weapon formed agaist me will prosper. Halleluyah anyway!!!

    • Amen to that, Alice. We all need to remember that no matter what the evil ones have planned, that YHWH is still on the throne. It is also satisfying to ponder that their much desired New World Order, will never have the strength of the original Roman Empire. Iron mixed with clay. I guess we’re the clay! 😀

  4. Good thing I’m only 29 and have many yrs to worry about this.
    OK, I’m not 29 and you have wrecked my day..groann

  5. Someone has to pay for those free phones and abortions… but you know how single-payer bureaucracy is (you know, like the NHS in England):

  6. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this most informative and revealing post, supported by substantial evidence. God’s justice will come forth at His timing, and keeping this in mind, we praise the Triune God, God the Father, God the Son, Jesus, and God the Holy Spirit, in all things and circumstances and we thank the most omnipotent Triune God in all things and circumstances, knowing that God has a plan and that good will come out of evil.

    • Just to add to your great response, joandarc:
      “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
      King of Kings and Lord of Lords.”
      Revelation 19:11-16 (NIV)

  7. One more thing:
    A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all in the Fellowship!

  8. Thank you Traildust. That youtube clip is one of my favorites.

  9. Birds of a feather, fly together. Obama’s FDA Commissioner, Margaret Hamburg, is the daughter of the former President of the American Eugenics Society: https://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron212.htm
    She conducts SWAT raids against Amish farmers who sell raw milk, because raw milk is healthy, its got all the live enzymes which are good for you, while in pasteurized milk all the enzymes have been killed by heat:https://reason.com/blog/2011/05/16/raw-milk-raid-on-amish-farmer
    Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren, has, in his sordid past, openly called for forced abortions and forced sterilizations https://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
    Obama is most likely microchipped, and thoughts are probably being put directly into his brain per instructions direct from the CIA and the Bilderberg Group from guys sitting at computer terminals inside Ft. Meade (NSA HQ) in Maryland. Lest you think this is “crazy talk” please familiarize yourself with the lawsuit of John St. Clair Akwei v NSA which exposes their technological capabilities for engaging in mind control, you will be stunned by this info: https://www.whale.to/b/akwei.pdf
    Did you realize that Obama has recently equipped DHS with millions of rounds of .40 caliber hollowpoint ammo and millions of rounds of .223 (same round used by NATO troops). Did you realize that .40 caliber ammo leaves a normal sized entry wound, but exits leaving a hole the size of a dinner plate after ripping out your lungs and all internal organs? Did you know this ammo has been banned under the terms of the Geneva Convention to be used in warfare which means Obama intends to use it against all of us?
    Did you realize that Obama has recreated the Nazi Youth via the FEMA Youth Corps? https://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/tsa-youth-corps-now-officially-part-of-obama-gestapo-and-marxist-senators-vow-to-create-official-dictatorship
    Did you realize that a few days ago the UN removed all mention of UN Agenda 21 from their website, and scrubbed Google free of all urls that used to be on their website about this 40 Chapter Blueprint for Population Control? Did you realize that the CIA has removed all of this info even from the web archive called The Way Back Machine?
    I can’t be certain, but I think its possible that this happened due to a guest blog I posted on Kimberly Hartke’s Blog, which she linked to from the Facebook page of the Weston A. Price Foundation, see https://hartkeisonline.com/2012/12/04/chemtrails-conspiracy-educate-yourself/ and see Weston Price Foundation’s Facebook page which has a link to this blog and numerous comments -https://www.facebook.com/westonaprice
    All the info about UN Agenda 21 was on the UN website the day I submitted my article to Kim Hartke, but a day later, after my article was massively read and forwarded due to people being alerted to it on Weston Price Foundation’s Facebook page, the UN removed everything about UN Agenda 21 from Cyberspace: from their website, from Google, and from the Waybackmachine.
    Why? I believe the reason is that the CIA has trolls who actively monitor things going on in cyberspace, and they actively track the activities of certain activists, including myself. Why would they be concerned about me? I was the first person in the world to blow the whistle on the UN’s Codex Alimentarius Commission’s Committee on Nutrition and Foods For Special Dietary Uses and their efforts to ban consumer access to vitamins and minerals within the therapeutic range, and to the most effective dietary supplements. I have been a serious thorn in the FDA’ and CIA’s side since the late ’80s when I first started my health freedom work. I believe it wasn’t just due to my blog post that The UN removed all mention of UN Agenda 21, but it might have had something to do with my effort to educate people on this issue because I’m connecting the dots on so many things.
    I’ve been very openly calling attention to the mounting bipartisan opposition to UN Agenda 21 in America including the fact that the Alabama State legislature has banned it and that more states must follow to stop the planned genocide.
    I have also called attention to the fact that more than 130 cities and counties have quit the UN NGO organization (ICLEI) thats pushing UN Agenda 21 on the country in a largely covert way. They’re getting zoning laws changed to force people out of rural areas and to pressure us to live in Cities where we can be far more easily controlled, please see my guest blog at Hartke online at https://hartkeisonline.com/2012/12/04/chemtrails-conspiracy-educate-yourself/ and if you want to sign up for my free e-alerts, you can at http://www.iahf.com Also see http://www.nocodexgenocide.com and http://www.sulfurforhealth.com
    I am a Chapter Leader in the Weston A. Price Foundation http://www.westonaprice.org and I’m in the Hall of Honor of Freedom Force International http://www.freedomforceinternational.org which I encourage you to join to oppose collectivism. Please forward this so that everyone will realize Obama really is like the next Hitler, thats not just hyperbole- they’ve even been hiring military guards to guard the FEMA concentration camps that they plan on putting all of us in for not worshipping Obama, see this video ad https://theintelhub.com/2012/05/11/military-job-video-internment-specialist-concentration-camp-guards-in-the-usa/ Could this by why ammo and gun sales have never been higher than the day Obama got “reelected” via massive election fraud?

    • torpedo,
      Thank you for your informative comment and for the brave and good work that you do.
      Yes, we do realize the issues you’ve raised and have posts on many of them: Holdren, FEMA Youth Corps, and especially Agenda 21, which is the specialty of our lowtechgrannie. There are links to all those posts on our “The Obama Chronicles” and “Police State/NWO” pages. I welcome you to peruse those links!


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