Who really are the deadringer brothers of dead Challenger astronauts?

9 days ago, I did a post, “Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?,” on the astonishing similarities between the crew members of the Space Shuttle orbiter Challenger who all died in the tragic explosion on Jan. 28, 1986, and certain people alive today.
Not only are the doppelgängers the same ages as the Challenger crew members if they had lived, some of the doubles even have the same names as the astronauts.
In the case of Challenger Mission Specialists Ronald McNair and Ellison Onizuka, their respective doppelgängers are their brothers, Carl McNair and Claude Onizuka.

Ronald and Carl McNair

Born on Oct. 21, 1950, Challenger’s mission specialist Ronald McNair would be 64 years old if he had not perished in the space shuttle explosion.
If he had lived, Ronald would look very much like his brother Carl McNair, who is an author, education consultant, inspirational speaker, and the founder and president emeritus of the Ronald E. McNair Foundation in honor of his brother.
Ronald McNair

Ellison and Claude Onizuka

Born on June 24, 1946 in Hawaii, Challenger Mission Specialist Ellison Onizuka would be 68 years old today if he had not died in the explosion.
If Ellison were still alive, he would look just like this pic of his younger brother Claude, who is a Liquor Adjudication Board Member of the Department of Liquor Control, County of Hawaii, Hilo, Hawaii. Ellison and Claude both have the same eyebrows, same eyes, same crow’s feet wrinkles, same nose, even the same hair-parting on the left side of their heads.
Ellison and Claude Onizuka
A reader named Linda asked a very good question: “has anyone searched for records of those that claim to be “brothers” of the ones who died to see if they ever actually existed?”
The following are the results of my search.

The Search for the Brothers

Carl McNair

I searched on Ancestry.com for a “Carl McNair,” who claims to be the brother of astronaut Ronald McNair. Carl S. McNair’s LinkedIn page says his birthdate is Dec. 16; Wikipedia’s page on Ronald McNair says his parents are Carl C. and Pearl M. McNair.  So I asked Ancestry.com to search all “birth, baptism and christening” records for “Carl McNair,” born on Dec. 16, whose father is Carl McNair and mother is Pearl McNair.
Result of search: Just one record was found, and it’s not of astronaut brother Carl McNair. The record is from Texas Birth Certificates 1903-1932, of Herschel John McNair, born on 12 Oct 1912 – Rosewood, Upshur, whose father was William McNair and mother was Pearl Watkins.
In other words, according to Ancestry.com, there is no Carl McNair, brother of Ronald McNair. Here’s the screenshot I took of ancestry.com’s search results, with the time (10:18 AM) and date (5/9/2015) when I took the shot in the lower right corner (circled in red).

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Carl McNair
Just to be sure, I re-did my search for “Carl McNair,” this time without specifying the names of the parents. There were 8,850 results. So I narrowed the search to “Carl McNair,” whose father’s last name is McNair and whose mother’s first name is Pearl. That narrowed the results to 8,980, which include all persons whose last name is McNair or similar-sounding last names, e.g., McNare, McNear, Mackner. Of those 8,980 results, I found no Carl McNair whose father’s name is (also) Carl McNair and whose mother’s first name is Pearl.
No parent names were given for these 3 Carl McNairs:

  1. Carl W. McNair, b. Sept 2, 1950
  2. Carl F. McNair, b. Feb. 9, 1954
  3. Marcus Carl McNair, b. Dec. 23, 1952

Since astronaut Ronald McNair was born on Oct. 21, 1950, we can rule out #1 Carl W. McNair, born on Sept. 2, 1950, as Ronald’s brother. That leaves us with Carl. F. McNair and Marcus Carl McNair, neither of whom is “Carl S. McNair” — the name of astronaut brother Carl McNair on his LinkedIn page.

Claude Onizuka

I also asked Ancestry.com to search for the birth records of “Claude Onizuka,” the alleged brother of astronaut Ellison Onizuka. According to Wikipedia’s entry on Ellison Onizuka, his father was the late Masamitsu Onizuka, his mother is Mitsue Onizuka.
Result of search:  “Your search for Claude Onizuka returned zero good matches.”
Here’s the screenshot I took of ancestry.com’s search results, with the time (10:39 AM) and date (5/9/2015) when I took the shot in the lower right corner (circled in red).

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Claude Onizuka1
Just to be sure, I re-did the search for “Claude Onizuka,” this time without putting in the names of the parents. There were 36 results, none of which is Claude Onizuka. 
In other words, according to Ancestry.com, no one named Claude Onizuka or Carl S. McNair (brother of Ronald McNair) had ever been born in the United States.
~Éowyn

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0 responses to “Who really are the deadringer brothers of dead Challenger astronauts?

  1. Wow! Excellent follow up. Ancestry.com would have captured names for persons who were born certainly after 1940, since they have the complete 1940 US Census on their records. Your extensive follow-up gives great credence to the fact that something is seriously wrong with the thinking that all these people died in the Challenger accident. With all the things we have to be concerned with–I hate it that the US government deals us mis-information.

     
  2. That is a two-roll duct tape bandaging necessity! A theory of possible cause I have had since 1986 is the stupid decision to launch on that date because of the cold and inability of the O-rings to function at that temperature. As a side bar, the use of O-rings instead of one piece rocket body was a political lork barrel decision. Side bar over and out. The launch should have been postponed and those present knew it. That was simple, common sense thinking, one didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that, and, if it did take a rocket scientist, some were available on site. I believe that the launch was ordered to add to the pride and authority of the Reagan administration, for that was the date of Reagan’s annual presidential address. There is also the possibility of added funding for NASA with that launch. Now, thanks to rabbit hole discoveries and td’s comment 4/30/2015, 3:22 P.M., I see the strong possibility that those in charge of the launch protected the crew by keeping them on the ground. If that is the case, and I hope it is, the least the crew could have done is buy the scientists dinner while they watched the presidential address that evening. Now to Christa McAuliffe, for whom I have had great interest and sympathy. Her photograph for NASA in which she is wearing a light blue flight suit shows her eyes as brown. The law professor has blue eyes, and an astronaut picture of her in a dark blue flight suit shows blue eyes. Further, that blue flight suit of her from the waist up shows fingers longer and more slender than those of the law professor. I see these comments as strong possibilities, not absolute facts.
    Now, for those seeking further rabbit hole spelunking, read “Methodical Illusion” by Rebekah Roth, a novel involving credible ideas for the plot in a book regarding 911. She was a stewardess for many years, has done much study on this, and is greatly supported by pilots and other stewardesses in her explanations.
    Finally, Dr., how do you do all this? I want to know the brand of coffee you drink. Great work!

     
    • Thank you, marble!
      You have an interesting notion — “that those in charge of the launch protected the crew by keeping them on the ground.”
      P.S. I sip a tea of mint leaves with slice-of-lemon all day. 🙂

       
  3. What it boils down to is the government thinks we all are dumb and blind.I will admit when this happened in 1986,I really thought that these people all died a horrible death and was heart broken,but since the time of the internet,a person can be well informed and find out the truth.What these people did to all of us thinking that they died,I would like them to be rounded up and charged with fraud.There’s no telling,how much money they were awarded for doing this evil,and that is what it comes down to.It probably will not happen,but a person can hope.

     
  4. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this interesting post. What you have found is most noteworthy. Your thorough research sets forth the ongoing inconsistencies involved about the Challenger.

     
  5. What happened to the spouses and children? Did the spouses remarry and live separate lives?

     
  6. Fascinating stuff, and great research. Like evh, I too have wondered what about the spouses and children.. I wonder how one might do a research on them to see if perhaps they moved out of the area they lived in at the time and just continued thier lives somewhere else, still married to the “victims”, still raised by the “victim” parents, etc… That would be fascinating to know! by the way, my husband and I cut the cord last summer and since then, it is AMAZING what we are discovering, like the 9/11 conspiracy, Sandyhook shootings, this subject, all the ridiculous supposed shootings as of late, the non landing on the moon, on and on and on.. I recommend anyone who is thinking of cutting the cable cord do so.. It is amazing what truth pops out at you once you unplug from what our government and media want us to believe…

     
  7. I went to high school with Claude Onizuka. I can assure you he is real and his brother was as well. Ancestry.com by the way doesn’t contain the name of every person on earth. In fact, it mostly relies on people who submit their family histories to the site. Maybe the Onizukas, like millions of other families, didn’t do so.

     
    • I don’t believe you

       
    • You can find Shirley and Norma Onizuka in Ancestry. The Onizuka’s were 4 siblings. Shirley is the oldest. If you knew the brothers, you would obviously know they had sisters.
      The Onizuka’s went to Konawaena hs. Tell me what year you graduated.

       
  8. According to Wikipedia, there were 3 McNair brothers: Ronald, Carl, and Eric. Carl and Eric can be found on FB and are friends with each other. Googling McNair brothers, you will always only find photographed 2 brothers. There was only ever 2 McNair brothers. Carl McNair never existed. Great article. I would love to know why, but I guess we’ll never know….
    It must be hard being them knowing what they have done…

     
    • Scarlet, I believe that you are mistaken on this one. All the pics purport to be those of Ron and Carl, who were (or are) less than a year apart in age, and went to the same high school and college.
      As I commented below, the older Carl pictured in the above article looks just like the younger Carl in the following picture (with brother Ron), which is captioned “Carl (left) and Ronald McNair in their freshman year at North Carolina A&T. Born 10 months apart, they were virtually inseparable until their careers took them in different directions. In 1976, Ronald McNair earned a Ph.D in physics from MIT. Carl McNair went on to become an author, education consultant and inspirational speaker.”
      http://www.ajc.com/rf/image_large//Pub/p4/AJC/2013/01/28/Images/photos.medleyphoto.3058573.jpg?uuid=FjbZPyA4RZujXtVIh0NTcA

       
  9. This is crazy…NASA has been robbing us. Also in reply to the comment about longer fingers and blue eyes of the lady astronaut McAuliffe…get your tin foil hat ready…Is it so far fetched that she could be wearing brown contact lenses and had hand surgery? And as far as McNair’s teeth, (“carl” has a gap, Ronald does not) is it so far fetched that he had post dental surgery? I mean if NASA had any brains they would clearly anticipate the public going, “hey they look similar!” NASA, “Just change the teeth a little, shorten her fingers, give them a little Botox….no one will tell the difference….those who do will be labeled loons”. NOPE. I’m calling their BS.

     
  10. I have to agree with Stan. I’ve used Ancestry. Other than the scans from census and other official records, the connections are made by humans from their assumptions while deciphering those records. If a person in another McNair lineage mistakenly claims someone in Ron’s, how is anyone to know this was done? You don’t. You also have to remember we’re talking about information in South Carolina in the 50s, in black neighborhoods, in small towns. I’m from a small town in South Carolina born in the early 60s and there are errors in my searches.
    Wikipedia? Really? You are aware that anyone can add info to a Wiki page.
    I know Carl McNair personally. I’ve seen pictures of him AND his brother together. In the same photo. Before Ron became an astronaut. Carl currently lives in Atlanta and runs the foundation in his brother’s name and promotes STEM.
    Am I saying I trust our government implicitly? No. But the switching or faking of the astronauts isn’t one of those deceptions. They wouldn’t go to those lengths.
    How easy would it have been to plant WMDs in Iraq after they got rid of Saddam or at the least plan parts? Very, but they didn’t. You all are giving them too much credit. They aren’t that bright!

     
  11. I’m just curious. Has anyone writing about all this ever tried contacting any of these people and just asked them if they are, in fact, the challenger crew members? I know the expected answer would be they would deny it, but wouldn’t it be something if they simply said, no one ever asked!

     
  12. general Turgison

    The same govt that orchestrated the challenger hoax is same one that faked the gulf of Tonkin incident resulting in over 50 thousand dead American soldiers and countless other casualties and suffering meanwhile their cronies in military industrial complex profited billions. Its the same govt that gave us the “magic bullet theory” and lone gunman patsy Oswald . Same one that that tells us that apollo successfully traversed deadly radiation in van allen belts with astronauts AND 5200 photos taken in 4000 minutes on moon all returned undamaged . yet a simple security body scanner at airport or courthouse will ruin un exposed film.lol.
    The same govt also gave us a “weather balloon ” story at roswell. Lol
    Same govt that brought down twin towers with Thermite charges In a free fall not to mention the unspoken building 7 that was a reinforced bomb proof command center and never even got hit by aircraft. Lol.
    This same govt that mandates pacifying fluoridated water aka “sodium fluoride rat poison” because they care so much about our children’s teeth.
    Yea their right at science deniers. They wouldn’t couldn’t fake the challenger deaths. Lol
    To those who say such secrets can’t be kept by so many I say thousands of people worked on atomic bomb Manhatten project, no one spilled the beans.
    Its also amazing what secrets people will keep for money, suggestions of national security , or plain old fashioned threats of life and limb.

     
  13. @ Karen. I know Carl McNair. Live less than a half a mile away from him. His daughter baby sat my children for years. I’ve played tennis with him. His wife worked with my wife for years.
    Again, I’m not I saying I trust our government implicitly, however you can remove the Ron & Carl switch from the list of possible government hoaxes.

     
    • Steve, as you allude to, if we compare the above claimed ‘hoax’ pics of Ron and Carl with the below pic of the younger Ron and Carl, the older Carl definitely looks like the younger Carl; and then by default the older Ron looks a lot like the younger Ron.
      http://www.ajc.com/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p7/AJC/2016/01/28/Images/photos.medleyphoto.8627674.JPG

       
    • Steve, I did notice one discrepancy; but I assume there is an explanation, given the picture I linked to above which speaks for itself [and by the way, this is the caption to the picture: “Carl (left) and Ronald McNair in their freshman year at N.C. A&T. Born 10 months apart, they were virtually inseparable until their careers took them in different directions.”]:
      Per his linked in page ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-s-mcnair-7ab9a15 ), Carl lists the following as his first position:
      Contract Technical Recruiter/ Managing Consultant
      Advanced Computer Resources, Inc.
      August 1984 – March 2001 (16 years 8 months)Greater Atlanta Area
      But per the Georgia corporate records, this company was only formed by Carl in January ’86, (coincidentally) the same month of (and about 3 weeks before) the Challenger accident:
      https://www.georgia-register.com/J600007-advanced-computer-resources-inc
      So notwithstanding his being 36 years old in Jan. 1986, in effect we have no confirmed prior work history for Carl until the (very same) time that his brother Ron passed away.

       
  14. Reblogged this on necltr and commented:
    In ten days, it will be thirty-one year’s since the needless Challenger tragedy. Many others and I remember where we were and what happened.

     
  15. Jesus, you people. I noticed in your big ancestry.com experiment you didn’t do an obvious step and show us that ellison and ron were there. a hundred bucks says you can’t find them either which makes the whole effort moot.

    the astronauts died in an air disaster. think it through logically and you’ll realize how dumb this conspiracy is.
    for one, have you looked into these people lives? take the woman named Judith Resnick mind you that is supposed to be astronaut Judith Resnick. If we believe the conspiracy: they changed her job, her birhtplace, her age, her parents, her high school, her college, her grad school, her husband, somehow htey come up with two kids ot be her new kids, new siblings, (where did htey get all these people), gave her a job history as a law professor at ucsd, somehow figured out a way for her to go teach law school despite having been a mechanical engineer and never gone to law school.
    So we’re to believe they did ALL OF THAT. Some of which is straight up absurd. New kids and husband? Really? But htey did all of that? And FORGOT TO CHANGE HER NAME?
    This whole way of thinking is scary dumb,.

     
    • “This whole way of thinking is scary dumb.”
      Your questions are good, but why must you be so insulting and condescending? That speaks poorly of your character.

       
  16. I absolutely knew this was complete bullshit.
    I know when I’m looking at the exact same person- and in the case of ALL THESE clowns ….IT IS THEM.
    This is typical — ohh shit we gotta get rid of these damn shuttles or every rich fuck is gonna want to go up!!— And we can’t even pass the Van Allen belt!!
    I got it!!– we’ll make sure everyone sees that the shuttle is a death trap!!!
    —Great Idea Frank!! Let’s blow one!!
    And waaaalaaahh!! Challenger!— hey everybody tune in! We GOT a Teacher going up!!! Uuhhh ooohhh!!!!—– Problem solved. Only thing….they didn’t think that one day social media would come out and FIND THEM! ‘Carl’ basically is a 2014 creation.This is why most of his google stuff that pre dates that is completely bullshit press articles. “The organization has been making steady headway since last semester and blah blah.blah. nothing that can be checked on.Just a completely fabricated history— I know, I read all 10 papers I could find on the guy. They have one with a 2007 date on it– same picture of him as his 2012 paper. Bullshit.
    As far as the Hawaiian, I’m about done there too….. Bogus bogus bullshit.

     
  17. Tim Madden have you done any more researchingthe case of claude no birth certificate but they sound exactly the same. I know for sure resnick is the lawyer thru home sales records she was also possibly an actress named judy resnick she has 2 films 2 her credit and she looks like the astronaut “carnival of blood” and “the filthiest show in town” which is a softcore parody porn you might want to all check it out it stars Harry Reems from deep throat. close up of the lawyer and the resnick teeth show exactly the same teeth same nose same voice and carl and ron mcnair same voice same way of speaking pronouces S the same. In the case of ron mcnair we have duping delight with the song he was supposed to play on the space shuttle with a saxophone never mind sound supposedly doesn’t travel in a vacuum but wait they just said there is sound in space. Anyway the song Ron was supposed to play was last rendez vouz. a play on words ron rend but last rendez vouz means last meet up and it’s a super sad song why the sad song for an exciting happy mission? Duping Delight

     
    • They have a showcase inside the gymnasium at Konawaena hs where the Onizukas went. There are photos of both Ellison and Claude. It is pretty conclusive proof to me that Claude existed. If you insist on records, it is hard to obtain if you are not related. Let me know what other evidence you could possibly want to end this once and for all.

       

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