What Cliven Bundy Really Said. The Full Quote Before NY Times Edited it.

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I really don’t have a dog in this hunt. I just knew something was not right. Sure enough the New York Times released an edited version of transcript, and Media Matters Uploaded the same edited Vid to You-Tube. Please read and watch. Then make up your mind. We have been played, and if you’re not pissed off…then I don’t know.

I am ticked Off, All the Cowards who ran for cover.

Beck, Hannity, All the Pols. Cowards all.


First, this is textbook; Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals rule #12

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)”

…” and so what I’ve testified to ya’, I was in the WATTS riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen the last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people is thinking they did not have their freedom; they didn’t have these things, and they didn’t have them.

We’ve progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and sure don’t want to go back; we sure don’t want the colored people to go back to that point; we sure don’t want the Mexican people to go back to that point; and we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Let me tell.. talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro.

When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas; and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids…. and there was always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for the kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for the young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy – so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

You know they didn’t get more freedom, uh they got less freedom – they got less family life, and their happiness -you could see it in their faces- they were not happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips – so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know I understand that they come over here against our constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people – and I’ve worked side-by-side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structure than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people.

And we need to have those people join us and be with us…. not, not come to our party.

~Steve~                  H/T https://www.infowars.com/unedited-video-shows-bundy-making-pro-black-pro-mexican-comments/

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  2. Whoa. The NYT definitely needed to add more context to this. It’s not fleshed out.

     
  3. And the full quote is somehow better?! I notice that the NYT didn’t somehow replace the term “negroes.”

     
  4. Yes it’s 100% better. You’ll find fault in anything he says. So bite me.

     
  5. I should have guessed since the original story came from the Newspaper of Wreckage.

    LOL – I’m an NBer, and should know better.

    -Dave

     
  6. Typical communist control at work on Mr. Bundy we have to continue supporting him!

     
  7. Hey, let’s hear it for Media Matters…

     
  8. Look, just based on the term “negro” alone, this is a PR mess for anyone who supports Bundy and claiming that context makes this any better is just tone-deaf. The term “negro” outside of quotes or academia has been racially taboo since the late 70s but began being taboo in the mid-60s.

    Remember, in 2010, Republican Senators Cornyn, Kyl and Republican chair Michael Steele made a big show of demanding that Harry Reid resign over his 2008 use of the term “no negro dialect” in reference to then Senator Obama.

    What’s good for the goose…

     
    • Why don’t we just DROP the P/C BS? If someone is so thin skinned they get freaked about being called what they are,they probably don’t need to be out in public,or they need to put on their ADULT pants and learn to deal with reality. My heritage includes a BUNCH of different nationalities,so I’m a Heinz 57-big deal! Call ME whatever you want as long as you don’t insult my Parents.

       
    • Hmm…. My grandparents used the term “colored” because the term “black” was considered offensive. By the time my parents became adults, the accepted term was “negro.” My generation has come full circle and uses the term “black”… but….Is that still acceptable, or do I use the term African American?? Or is it person of color? And why is that acceptable and not colored? I’m confused :-/

       
      • Exile, as long as the word can be weaponized by playing people’s emotions, no term will ever be “correct”. It is part of psychological operations and used as a charged term to divide (and conquer), you might have noticed that it would seem to have done just that in this case. Realistically, any term bundy could have used in speaking about folks with more skin pigment could’ve been used against him. That’s the trouble with the “politically correct” minefield, *nothing* is ever politically correct, if someone wants to take offense (for whatever reason).

         
      • Correct. Every so often the term suddenly changes, by whomever. It started with the N word, went to negroes, African American, now black. Someone needs to make up their mind.
        Where I live, many consider themselves chop suey. Many Americans are Eurpoean chop suey. It isn’t derogatory, it is a fact of life.
        We are Americans first and foremost, we are human beings.
        The point here is, Mr Bundys response to a planted question, hoping for distraction, was edited to paint it in such a manner as to further divide.
        He praised minorities, he spoke with compassion. Is he eloquent, no, but when put on the spot, few of us are.
        Reid needed this gift of red herrings.

         
  9. Okay-so he’s not so great with Politically Correct. I can see where he was going with his commentary now,and he’s not so far off the trail. I believe he’s not a bigot or a racist,just someone with a good soul who isn’t a public speaker and who says what he feels instead of what some would LIKE to hear him to say. When heard IN CONTEXT (glaring RIGHT AT NYT) this is yet another non-story. Get over it.

     
  10. Dr.Manning gave a really good response to Mr.Bundy.

     
  11. ericmuetterties

    If the MSM think they have everyone fooled, they don’t. I never follow them at all anymore and I know many who believe the same. They have gotten so outrageous with their lies and deceit. They are counting on the low-info voters, and those too-scared to do anything, to keep them in power.

     
  12. Thank you for your sane response Steve, for something that isn’t what it was painted to be.
    I think OReilly, Hannity and a few others owe an apology. They fell for the edited version and ran with it. Anyone who is paying attention would wonder why the misplaced question in the first place…..to incite.
    Anyone paying attention would never give the NY Times one second of crediability. Red flags should have been jumping out all over.
    The good Dr. Made it clear a few days back, the government legally has no right to that land. We need to stand together as Americans against the DC thuggery.

     
    • Glenn, Thanks. I just knew something was not right with this story. I agree they owe an apology, but I don’t think it’s coming. Especially from Beck.
      I spent a few hrs on his site yesterday tracking the story backwards. Man did he rip Bundy when story first came out. Then like a child he started
      “spilling” inside stuff. He said They were worried about him all along because “one time Becks reporter went there and he said to Bundy ,Glenn would like to talk to ya” So Bundy get’s a bit cranky and says “so have Beck call me” WOW!!! That’s the inside dirt Beck shared on “Looney Bundy.
      OK the point being now the new tape breaks and he did not address it, nor did the Blaze yesterday.
      I must have read 500 comments out of 5000 and I would say 450 were negative beyond belief. He burned some bridges with some fans.
      People are calling him a NWO plant. They Think he thinks He Talks to God.
      I Think Mr. Beck might have jumped the shark on this.

       
  13. I never saw the NYT version of his press conference. I have only seen the version posted above and it is dirt easy for me to understand why this speech of his is offensive to people and why some conservatives are distancing themselves as fast as they can. The “out of context” complaint comes across as grasping at straws by Bundy supporters in an attempt to both paint Bundy as a non-racist and to save face for making this guy their folk hero.

    I am left wondering what it actually takes to be a racist these days.

    Anyway…

    Bottom line is that this “racist” thing is a distraction from the real issue at hand: this has to do with the public status of rangeland in the West, its use and misuse; that subject is something we’ve neglected for far too long. It is a tragedy of the commons dilemma and preventing damage from overgrazing is a literal textbook example of a core function of government and the foundational role of public stewardship of public land.

    (Although I must say that this situation probably couldn’t have happened with a black rancher; the scenario in which a person of color is allowed to flaunt the law in such a way for decades is laughable. Because he’s white, he gets a pass, because he’s white, what he does is a principled stand rather than domestic terrorism. Last time this happened with black people holding the guns, the city of Philadelphia literally fire-bombed itself to stop them. Swaths of west Philly are still burned-out husks to this day.)

    Despite the economic precariousness of Bundy’s chosen business, he has no right to unfettered and free grazing upon public lands. That the BLM was stood down by men with serious weapons who threatened the most extreme violence was no victory for the citizenry because, quite simply, the rule of law was abrogated. For the moment. There is going to be a confrontation at some point in the future.

    Just as there has been in the past.

    The standoff is by no means an unprecedented event. If you get the chance read Bernard DeVoto’s superb 1947 essay “The West Against Itself” It’s an important and useful perspective that is too often lost these days.

     
    • Shirmey, are you saying you actually watched the new video? If you see racism in this mans heart because he used the word “Negro and Colored” then you will find racism in a rock. While those 2 terms a offensive to many I agree, I also believe this man just does not know any better. He was stating a truth that many refuse to see, That black America has been enslaved in Governmental Bureaucracies. He truly feels bad for them. And he said that. Not so eloquently, but hey he don’t get out much. 🙂
      In my book he is not a racist.

       
      • I only watched the video you posted. It is obvious why it has folks riled up.

         
        • Shirmey, thanks for getting back. OK so you watched the full unedited version. Do you think he is a racist because of the terms “Negro/Colored”? Listen to the words and delivery. I agree his choice of words sucks in this day and age, but this old timer spends too much time in the sun. LOL I too can understand people getting upset, but what upset me was the edited version that was released which if you look up a few comments you will see that. That was a set up.
          Tell me if you think he’s a racist please. I truly think it matters what’s in a mans heart that counts.
          Steve

           
  14. Well washington post is owned by the moonies, so, who runs the new york times? Both are willing propaganda factories… and clearly used to demonize in this case. One must never trust “snippits” (something I had forgotten and now remember) nor anything stemming from a big-name paper.

     
  15. Thank you!!!!!
    Somebody else took the time to see the big picture, and not just the edited twisted bits we have been fed!!!
    LISTEN to the whole speach!!!!
    It isnt about race.
    Its about control, and suppression
    And it is about the power of the 1%

    This is from a white ( used-to-be ) middle class professional who is just trying to surviv.e. Doing the “right thing” n getting screwed ,by the man , left n right.

     
  16. The first time I heard Mr. Bundy speak, I thought he is not well spoken and each time he was interviewed by someone else I KNEW he was not getting his words out right. I first heard about what he had said on Glenn Becks program and thought Glenn had it wrong. Mr. Bundy I believe was just saying that the Government didnt do right by handing out things to people and eroded their work ethic to it becoming generational and he thought if people worked they would be better off. I understood what he meant but people like to jump to the worst conclusion when it bennifits them. Harry Reid is educated and look what he said.

     
  17. Below is what a black Marine has to say about the Clive Bundy comment.

    Charlie Delta
    The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator. One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso’s view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine? Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family. Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts. It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue. Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.
    Semper Fidelis

    Read more at https://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist#OSI8D7QVgbPWiFZW.99

     
  18. Dennis H Bennett

    Obama used this same discredit-by-smearing methodology to win his primary and eventual senate seat in Illinois. The filthiest of the filthy.

     

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