Virginia Approves Bill Ending Most Abortion-Death Clinics

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Pro-lifers have won one for the unborn!
~Eowyn
Va. OKs bill to likely close most abortion clinics
By Dena Potter – MyWay – Feb 24, 2011

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) – Virginia took a big step Thursday toward eliminating most of the state’s 21 abortion clinics, approving a bill that would likely make rules so strict the medical centers would be forced to close, Democrats and abortion rights supporters said.
 
Democrats and abortion rights supporters said the change would put an estimated 17 of the state’s 21 clinics out of business.
Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell
Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican and Catholic, supports the measure and when he signs it into law, Virginia will become the first state to require clinics that provide first-trimester abortions to meet the same standards as hospitals. The requirements could include anything from expensive structural changes like widening hallways to increased training and mandatory equipment the clinics currently don’t have.

While abortion providers must be licensed in Virginia, the clinics resemble dentists’ offices and are considered physicians offices, similar to those that provide plastic and corrective eye surgeries, colonoscopies and a host of other medical procedures. Most of the clinics also provide birth control, cancer screenings and other women’s health services. “This is not about safety for women. This is about ideology, and this is about politics,” said Tarina Keene, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia. “The women of the commonwealth are going to be the ones left to suffer.”

Abortion rights supporters warned of legal challenges while supporters heralded it as a way to make the procedures safer. “It is not about banning abortions,” said Sen. Jill Vogel, R-Winchester. “It is simply caring for women who are about to have an invasive surgical procedure and creating an environment for them where they have the opportunity to do that in a place that is safe.”
No other state requires clinics that provide early abortions to meet hospital standards. Nineteen states, including Virginia, require an abortion to be performed in a hospital after 12 weeks, according to the Guttmacher Institute, which tracks abortions and laws concerning the procedures.
More than 27,000 of the 28,000 abortions performed each year in Virginia are completed during the first-trimester, Keene said.
“Does Virginia really want to take the lead in such obstruction?” asked Sen. Maime Locke, D-Hampton, who called the bill “draconian and patriarchal at best.” Democrats argued it wouldn’t pass constitutional muster because it would put an undue burden on poor women and those in rural areas, where clinics likely would close. They also argued it would violate the equal protection guarantees of the Constitution by treating abortions differently than similar procedures. “Absolutely all that will be accomplished by this vote is to restrict access to a safe and legal procedure to poor women,” said Sen. Mary Margaret Whipple, D-Arlington. “This does nothing to end abortions. It is purely discriminatory. It makes me heartsick.”
Laurence H. Tribe, professor of constitutional law at Harvard Law School, said the bill would likely be deemed unconstitutional “because its transparent purpose and effect would be to make such early abortions far more difficult if not impossible for many women to obtain.”

Va Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli


Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who supported similar legislation as a state senator, said he believes the law would be constitutional. “For over 25 years, Virginia abortion clinics have not been held to minimal health and safety standards,” he said. “As a result, women who walk into these clinics are often not treated with the care and respect that any human being deserves.”

Anti-abortion bills typically die in a Democrat-controlled Senate committee, but Republicans in the House tacked it onto a bill that already had passed the Senate. Doing so allowed the bill to sidestep the committee and forced a vote on the Senate floor, where Democrats hold a 22-18 majority. Two anti-abortion Democrats voted with Republicans, and Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling, a Republican, cast the tie-breaking vote after hours of debate.
After it becomes law in July, the state Board of Health will take public comments before issuing the guidelines. The board is appointed by the governor.

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0 responses to “Virginia Approves Bill Ending Most Abortion-Death Clinics

  1. Good news….clinics should be held to higher standards considering it is such an invasive procedure.

     
  2. This is not about higher health standards, this is about religion and politics. No MAN should have the power to decide what a WOMAN does with her body.
    This is the first step in overturning Roe vs Wade, which is what religious hypocrits have been after for years.
    Women need to wake up before it is too late. Before long, women will be seeking abortions in back alleys with a “doctor” with fold-up tables and dirty knives.
    This is very, very sad and distressing. America is slowly turning into a third world country.

     
    • Candance Moore

      Abortion is not about a woman’s right to choose, it’s about legalized genocide. No woman should have the power to decide if another human being gets to live or not.
      “Before long, women will be seeking abortions in back alleys with a “doctor” with fold-up tables and dirty knives.”
      Even with legalized abortion, that’s happening anyway and Planned Parenthood tolerates it:
      http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-01-19/news/27088082_1_abortion-clinic-late-term-abortions-aborted-fetuses
      You never complain about stuff like that because you really don’t care. You don’t care if women die from unhealthy medical procedures or out-of-control doctors. You don’t care if black America is decimated by well-funded campaigns to kill them off one by one. You don’t care if hearbroken parents call a pharmacy begging to be told who gave their 14 year old the morning after pill.
      Whatever it takes to protect the agenda.
      And don’t bother saying I can’t “judge” you because I don’t “know” you. The absolute silence from pro-choicers on these issues says all we need to know.
      Now run and give some more money to Planned Parenthood. They’re in desperate need of it, you know.

       
      • Wow Candace – You have some serious “hate” issues. LOL.
        I guess you think it is okay for the religious zealots to bomb abortion clinics killing doctors, nurses, women, who may be in those institutions?
        As you say, you don’t know me, so for you to say that “I don’t care” is just ridiculous. So typical of certain religious groups – pick and choose what is convenient for you and ignore the rest.
        I have my right to my opinion same as you…you know the old saying – “Opinions are like ***holes, everybody has one.” Doesn’t mean yours is right.
        Don’t bother to comment back, I won’t be reading. I’ve got some letters to write and phone calls to make.

         
        • Candance Moore

          Thanks for spelling my name wrong.
          “Don’t bother commenting.”
          Translation: I’m in over my head here and can’t handle someone giving as good as they take.

           
  3. What about in the case of rape? Let’s say, for example, that a 12-year-old girl is raped or molested and becomes pregnant. What then?
    Another question for all you chastising me, how many unwanted babies that are born and are abused, tortured, or born drug addicts have you legally adopted, accepted financial and emotional responsibility for ?
    This is an issue that has many facets – not just one.
    But I stand by MY beliefs that religious beliefs and men do not have the right to dictate what a woman does with her body.

     
    • Candance Moore

      Just to add to what Sage has said, abortion is a traumatic experience for young girls to go through. It doesn’t do anything to heal the pain of rape – it just makes things that much worse.
      And rape is such a red herring thrown out by the abortion lobby.
      For one thing, PP’s own research arm the Guttmacher Institute found in 2008 that only .3% of abortions performed in America were due to rape or incest.
      http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html
      And for another, some 80% of rape victims who do get pregnant choose life anyway.
      http://afterabortion.org/2004/rape-incest-and-abortion-searching-beyond-the-myths-3/
      Another question for you: do you volunteer at your local public school to counsel teen girls who get an abortion?
      “But I stand by MY beliefs that religious beliefs and men do not have the right to dictate what a woman does with her body.”
      So when an older man drags his teenage girlfriend into an abortion clinic with orders that she “get rid of it” whether she wants to or not
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2603583/posts
      I assume you’re lobbying Congress for harsher punishments for these guys?

       
  4. Sage_Brush – I do hear what you are saying and I do agree with you to a certain degree.
    The point that I am trying to make is that this issue is not a simple, single-faceted one. It touches so many lives in so many ways and it is just not an issue that is black or white. It is just my opinion that forcing women to have unwanted babies is not the answer.
    It always upsets me when the masses of “pro-lifers” call anybody who doesn’t agree with them 100% as “anti-lifers” or “pro-abortion.” That simply is not the case. I’m very “pro-life,” but I’m also realistic enough to realize that while abortion is a horrible thing, sometimes it is necessary, and I’m not talking about those women who use abortion as birth control. Yet again, the women who do use abortion control is another one of those pesky issues that simply forcing them to have unwanted babies is not the answer. What happens to these unwanted babies that women are forced to have? Our adoption laws in this country are so difficult, people are going to foreign countries to adopt. These are the things that I am lobbying to change.
    I don’t have all the answers – nobody does, but simply strong-arming people into doing what somebody else believes is not the answer.
    The only part of your last comment that I really strongly disagree with is saying pretty much if you don’t like it – move. That is simply unrealistic and ridiculous. I would move from VA in a heartbeat if I could. I’m fortunate enough to be able to financially sell my house and move elsewhere. But because I would disagree with a bunch of men dictating how I should live my life I am supposed to leave my elderly mother here alone, my children, my family, my friends? That is not the answer either.
    I also agree with you to a certain extent that this is a man’s issue. Man controlling woman. Once upon a time, women were revered and adored – not looked upon as the downfall of all men, and “objects” to be controlled by men, as how some religious doctrines are taught. But if a woman becomes pregnant and chooses not to continue the pregnancy, that should be her choice, period. Not mine, not yours, not the government or the church.
    I’m 51 years old, so this issue really can’t affect me, as far as myself ever having to make the choice of abortion, but this is an issue that I feel very strongly about. I don’t believe that abortion should be available after the first trimester unless the mother’s life is in danger or if the fetus has a birth defect or deformity. Not everybody’s definition of when life actually “begins” is the same. What I am saying is that there are certain issues that cannot and should not be made based on religion. There has to be a meeting of the minds and hearts somewhere in all this mess.
    Too often, people like CANDANCE (did I spell it right this time?) are so narrow-minded, and so full of hate for anybody that believes differently, they are simply incapable of trying to come to any kind of solution, unless it is their solution. They think there is only ONE way and that is THEIR way. This is evidenced every day over in the Middle East.
    And CANDANCE – the reason I requested you not to bother to comment is that I could see immediately that your mind is so closed you can’t see outside of your own little box. You are so full of hate for anyone who believes differently than you that there is not a single hope to carry on a civil conversation with you. This is very clearly in evidence from your first nasty response to me.
    I pick and choose my battles with people that CAN make a difference – wasting energy on people like you is like holding a drag race on a frozen pond. I choose to use my energy as much as possible in a positive way in an effort make a change.
    Thank you for your comments Sage_Brush. Good luck to you and your endeavors.

     
    • Candance Moore

      I have a serious question for Joy:
      If a mother chooses to physically abuse a baby that was born two weeks ago, is it child abuse or not?
      And thanks for confirming that you did come back to read my comment because you couldn’t help yourself.

       
  5. LOLOL at Candace !! My husband and I have gotten a good laugh out of you today !! Thanks so much !!
    And a serious answer – of course it is child abuse. This question/answer proves nothing. As I stated in my previous post to Sage_Brush, people have differing opinions on when a “bunch of cells” actually is considered a life.
    But I have a serious question for you Candance, one that, not surprisingly, you didn’t bother to answer.
    How many unwanted babies or crack babies have you legally adopted ? How many unwanted babies have you taken on the financial and emotional well-being of until they are grown, productive adults.
    We, as a people, need to actually DO something – not just spout our opinions. And Yes, I do volunteer at a number of organizations. I donate monthly to my local homeless shelter. I donate extensively to my local animal shelters. I rescue dogs, as many as I am able. I am involved in many local organizations. We try to preserve the Earth as much as possible. My husband and I adopted a stretch of highway that we have dedicated to cleaning every month. We grow our own food and we can and freeze it. We don’t use chemicals on our property. We don’t use pesticides. I make most of my own cleaning products and use only my own homemade soap that I make. I wash my clothes and hang them on the line to dry, even in winter. I don’t have central air conditioning, by choice. The list goes on an on of what my husband and I do to try to make this planet a little better.
    Like I said, I don’t have all the answers, but I am open to ideas and listen with an open mind.
    I will come back to see if you answered my serious question, but I won’t respond to you anymore because, as I mentioned, I choose not to waste my energy on negativity and narrow-minded people who only want to try to force everyone to believe their way – that solves nothing.

     
    • Joy,
      If you insult my friend, you should at least get her name right. It’s Candance, not Candace.

       
      • So we are in Junior High here? LOLOL.
        Again, Sage_Brush, thank you for your comments, but I have my own set of horror stories that I have dealt with.
        I didn’t realize when I first posted here that this was a Xtian “forum.” As I am not a Xtian, I now understand why the narrow minds here.
        I’ll leave you all to it and I’ll be praying for the rapture 😉

         
        • Let’s see, you repeatedly incorrectly addressed Candance as “Candace” although the name “Candance” is clearly indicated on this blog. When I called you on your mistake, you then hurl an insult, calling what I did “junior high.”
          How like an obnoxious rude person to bid farewell with an insult. Ever heard of “projection”? – Narrow minds indeed. 😉

           
        • Candance Moore

          And there it is.
          That’s what progressives do when they run out of bullets. Didn’t take long this time.

           
      • Candance Moore

        That’s okay, Eowyn. It’s better than what my brothers used to call me. 😀

         
    • Candance Moore

      Joy,
      The reason I asked about the two-week-old baby is precisely because of the issue about when people believe a baby is really alive. If I believe that a fetus is every bit as alive as that newborn – can you understand why I would feel so worried about them? If I believe a fetus is as needy as one of those animals you adopt – why do you deny my right to be passionate?
      As far as your question – if you check my photos online you’ll see that I’m still young. My husband and I have indeed been discussing adoption. We just kinda have to – you know – take a million classes and save up some money.
      Let me tell you a personal story. You know why I’m so passionate about abortion? Because my mother was poor when she got pregnant with me and people thought she shouldn’t have me. Then the state authorities almost took me away. It’s been a long journey for me to claw my way out of the welfare pit and get to a place where I *can* adopt a needy child. You’ll forgive me for not doing it fast it enough.
      But in all seriousness, as to your comments about hateful and narrow-minded people… let’s be honest, you showed up here and your very first comment was a sanctimonious sermon about “religious hypocrites” who want to tell people what to do. You came here to tell us off.
      Open your mind and listen to every opinion – even mine – or admit that you have limits on what you want to listen to. I might be aggressive in how I rely to you, but never, ever, will I walk away from a discussion.

       

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