Unions and the Rust Belt

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Just a few pictures here.

Draw your own conclusions

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Closed Auto Plant in Detroit

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I invite your thoughts. ~ TD

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0 responses to “Unions and the Rust Belt

  1. I have my doubt that my libtard trolls will leave a comment… plus they hate you guys… keep up the good work!!

     
  2. Unions had a purpose many years ago,but then they forgot why they existed,and at that time they should have shut down. Now,all they do is artificially raise business’ operating expenses to pay their own management big money. In a Free Market System pay and benefits vs. production finds its own balance just fine without the Unions’ interference.

     
  3. Unions do share their part of the blame for what has happened: They’re corrupt. But let us get the Big Picture here: We have been living through the playbook of decisions made by men who have been dead for many years.
    The decision was made during the Eisenhower years to deindustrialize this country and the action began during the Kennedy years. It was incremental, and accelerated during the Reagan years, and took off in the Bush I years, especially with NAFTA and GATT. Ultimately, we have to trace this back to the ROOT: The Federal Reserve System with its debt-based money!

     
  4. What you see are what happens when you have out of control unions, that have out served their purpose, and an EPA that is doing the bidding of their Prez.
    We are paying the salaries of people working in this admin., that their total job is doing nothing but union work, on our dime.

    Good article and I would love to see the results of the attacks on people that have legal ponds on their own land, the attack on small farmers and small businesses. There is a war in America and it is against the citizens of this country.

     
  5. According to economic theory, countries economically compete in the world based on the principle of Comparative Advantage. Thus, when the U.S. became a mature industrial economy, manufacturing wages became so high that we were/are out-competed by rising industrializing economies whose wages are much lower. Being an open instead of a closed economy with import restrictions like high tariffs, U.S. manufacturers simply took their jobs elsewhere — to countries like China and Mexico. (Now China is beginning to lose its comparative advantage, their workers’ wages having risen. That’s why increasingly, we’re seeing products with “Made in India” or Vietnam or … labels, replacing the formerly ubiquitous “Made in China” labels.)

    The idea is that the U.S. would move to being a post-industrial economy (which we have) — a post-manufacturing economy centered on knowledge and service. The knowledge industries (e.g., IT, medicine, law) require high levels of education (post-graduate training) and therefore command high salaries. The service industries are comprised of (1) high knowledge-intensive high-skills occupations like physicians, lawyers, professors, which command high salaries; (2) medium-skilled occupations that require a college degree (e.g., nursing and government, the latter a growth industry); and (3) low-skills low-education and therefore low-paid jobs like in fast food.

    But a post-industrial economy results in a structural transformation of the social-political system. With the disappearance of manufacturing jobs — graphically shown in Trail Dust’s post of the Rust Belt — is the dwindling of the middle class. America is transforming from a diamond-shaped society (of a small upper class, large middle class, and small lower class) increasingly into a two-tiered society. All of which, of course, has unpleasant political consequences and implications.

    For the U.S. to remain a manufacturing economy would mean erecting barriers to prevent corporations from exporting jobs overseas, and to either bar imported goods or make them so expensive (via high tariffs), few Americans would buy them.

    But the costs of that are:
    1. High prices — to pay for the “artificially” high wages of manufacturing workers. Gone are the cheap products Americans buy in Walmarts.
    2. The systematic deterioration in quality of American manufacturing because, with high tariffs on imports, we got rid of competition.

    I don’t think that’s what we want either.

    To add to our post-industrial predicament is the fact that even the knowledge-intensive jobs are now being exported. Example: There is a website called Elance where anyone in the world can offer their skills (e.g., technical, legal writing) online and bid for work. That means a lawyer in India where wages and cost-of-living are low will probably outbid Americans.

    I can think of a few “solutions”:

    1. As individuals, assuming you have the type of cognitive intelligence, strive to achieve the highest level education possible so that you’ll get a professional high-paying job.

    2. As a society, for those unsuited for college education, we need to promote technical manual training (e.g., auto mechanics, electricians, plumbers) instead of putting all the emphasis on 4-year colleges & universities.

    Our biggest challenge is what to do with those Americans who (a) lack the intelligence for high education; and (b) lack the elemental discipline required to hold down even minimum-wage jobs. This is where I begin to despair that the “underclass” not only is irredeemable but will enlarge, which means the oppressive Welfare State not only will continue but grow. Why? Because we fear what the underclass would do (and are doing) if we shut off the welfare spigot — crimes, riots, and mayhem.

     
  6. traildustfotm

    These are all good comments. I am hoping to spark the discussion. Personally, I don’t have an answer, but hope to see ideas that might give us some light. I will say this. Look at the success of auto manufacturers like Honda, who have kept unions out, while offering good wages. They give me hope that manufacturing is not dead in America.

     
  7. Jesus said that we will always have the poor with us (Matt. 26:11). Perhaps His wisdom went further beyond what we normally would see, that earthy economic systems cannot sustain opportunities and wealth for everyone for long periods of time. Natural economic outcomes preclude that. Add unions and the government officials they corrupt to the mix and things go down the tubes faster, even for healthy systems.

     
  8. Excellent post and topic, TD!

    Since communists took over the unions, our country has been in steady decline.

     
    • traildustfotm

      Have communist influences been there from the beginning with the unions? I have to do my research, but I think the American union movement had that risk from the beginning. On the other hand, most of the union people I’ve known would be furious if I were to tell them they are leftists.

       
  9. If you think jobs are heading oversees now, just wait until Barry Hussein Obastard’s shiny new Employment Prevention Agency (EPA) regs kick in.

    It isn’t just the energy segment of the economy that is going to be negatively impacted, either.

    Worse still is that, thanks to gubbermint ejumikashion, most Americans today don’t even understand the economics of their own employment, which government has figured out how to exploit to exponentially expand its own power.

    -Dave

     
  10. This was a powerful set of pics. But the issue of union vs non union is very unsettling. It is a pin-pong ball in history, and has good and bad aspects for workers. RAH

     
  11. I’m currently in the middle of watching my job being sent out for cheap ( inferior labor ) I’m a steelworker and I love what I do , we work hard , long hours but it never bothered us . I do feel some at the top of the union leadership didn’t help the situation but when all is said and done it will be another abondoned steel mill that at one time made a great product and employed hundreds of blue color men and women

     

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