Trump: Close southern border; troops to use lethal force

Here’s the latest “migrant caravan” invasion news:

(1) The first wave of thousands of “caravan migrants” has arrived at America’s southern border. Among them were some 350 people who arrived in nine buses in the border city of Tijuana, Mexico. As you can see in the pic below, some of them were carrying the Guatemalan and Mexican flags. (USA Today)

(2) Wonder of wonders, LGBT freaks are the first to reach the Tijuana border! (Washington Post)

(3) The Trump administration is hardening the Tijuana border in preparation for the invasion. Customs and Border Protection announced it was closing four lanes at the busy San Ysidro and Otay Mesa ports of entry in San Diego, California so as “to install and pre-position port hardening infrastructure equipment in preparation for the migrant caravan and the potential safety and security risk that it could cause.” However, 23 lanes remain open at San Ysidro and 12 at Otay Mesa. San Ysidro is the border’s busiest crossing, with about 110,000 people entering the U.S. every day. (AP)

(4) Tijuana mayor and residents reject the “caravan migrants”:

Tijuana Mayor Juan Manuel Gastelum correctly calls the invaders — whom the U.S. Hate America Media (HAM) call “migrants” and “caravans” — a “horde,” an “avalanche” and a “tsunami.”

On Sunday, Tijuana residents waved Mexican flags, sang the Mexican national anthem and chanted “Out! Out!” in front of a statue of the Aztec ruler Cuauhtemoc, 1 mile (1.6 kilometers) from the U.S. border. They called the migrants messy, ungrateful, “a danger” to their city, and an “invasion”, and voiced worries that their taxes might be spent to care for the invaders.

There were public clashes between Tijuana residents and the Central American “migrants”. At least three people were injured, all of whom were journalists. (New York Post)

In the past week, Tijuana officials have arrested three dozen “caravan” members for drug possession, public intoxication, disturbing the peace and resisting police, and said they would be deported to their home countries.

(5) On November 8, 2018, invoking the President’s national security powers to protect the United States against threats from abroad, the Trump administration announced new immigration rules giving President Trump new authority to deny asylum to “migrants” who illegally cross the border. No one could apply for asylum except at an official border entry point.

On November 19, however, U.S. District Judge Jon Tigar in San Francisco, an Obama appointee, put the administration’s asylum policy on hold. Tigar ruled that President Trump “may not rewrite the immigration laws to impose a condition that Congress has expressly forbidden.” Tigar’s order will remain in effect until Dec. 19, when the court will consider arguments for a permanent ban. (Politico)

In 2015, in a first-of-its-kind ruling for the state of California, Tigar ruled that the state must pay for an inmate’s gender realignment surgery because denying “her” that surgery violates “her” constitutional rights.

So President Trump threatened to close America’s entire southern border for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that Mexico has lost “control” on its side. He said that if U.S. officials “find that it’s uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control or where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border. We’re either going to have a border or we’re not.” (Foxnews)

(6) President Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops sent to the border the “OK” to use lethal force against illegal border-crossers “if they have to.”

Citing DHS Secretary Nielsen who had said there are as many as 500 criminals and gang members in the “caravan” heading northward, Trump said there are “fistfights all over the streets” in Tijuana, Mexico, and that “these are not like normal, innocent people. These are people you talk to them and they start a fistfight. I don’t want that in this country.”

Indeed, the Military Times reports that on Tuesday, November 20, White House Chief of Staff John Kelly signed a “Cabinet order” expanding the authority of troops at the border to include “a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention, and cursory search” in order to protect border agents.

Before this, the Pentagon had rejected requests for troops to provide crowd and traffic control and protection for agents. Troop activities at the border have been largely restrained due to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prohibits the military from acting as law enforcement on U.S. soil, except in cases and under circumstances authorized explicitly by the Constitution or Congress. But defense officials told the Military Times that the language in Kelly’s order “was carefully crafted to avoid running up against the bedrock legal limitations set in Posse Comitatus.”

On Wednesday, November 21, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said that the White House had given him explicit authority to use military troops to protect Customs and Border Protection personnel at the southwest border, with lethal force if necessary. But he was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.  Generally, U.S. troops are authorized to use force in self-defense.

~Eowyn

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Lophatt
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Lophatt

Has anyone been following this? I’m disturbed by a recurring theme. They say that DoD is refusing to comply with Trump’s orders: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46298669 That would be a serious matter. If the President ever loses command of the military its over. I get that we are supposed to understand this as him brokering it to Mattis who in turn goes to DHS. That’s wrong too. The very term “Commander In Chief” is intended, and in fact is, meant to convey his absolute authority over the military. The DHS or any other agency cannot override that authority. If I were him, and… Read more »

Alma
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Alma

I approve POTUS closing the border to the invading caravans. Mexico should have stopped them at the border with Guatemala, now it is Mexico’s problem not ours. I said before there is going to be a stampede of people unable to be controlled, many will die trampled, and the world should BLAME Mexico for the carnage, it will be a monumental disaster. POTUS MUST CLOSE ALL ENTRIES and force must be applied when necessary, they will be violating our sovereignty and we must defend our country from invasion.

Alma
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Alma

THERE IS ONLY ONE FLAG, THE STAR SPANGLE BANNER, take you and your flag back where you belong, you are not wanted here!

DCG
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Close the border and use lethal force?

Works for me!

kevin coleman
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kevin coleman

the us military is tasked to protect the borders, period! this is an invasion force! the mission is to repel the invasion and that means using weapons if they are fired upon? trump is not a homo fake cia puppet berry soros? trump is a man with intelligents he knows from intelligents some of the aliens are armed and dangerous. trump, unlike homoboma is a patriot not a globalists. this is an outside threat, we have a military force to stop it! the media is lying to the public about the details of this massive invasion force and the real… Read more »

Goldbug
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Goldbug

No more threats, President Trump! Close down the entire border. Nobody sets foot on U.S. soil. And close down the government and stop congressional paychecks if they don’t cough up the full wall funding and abolish the visa lottery, chain migration and anchor baby nonsense.

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Hawkmoon
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Hawkmoon

President/Commander-In-Chief Donald J Trump is the real environmentalist by stopping the invasion of globull warming green house gas emitting, wildlife habitat destroying, polluting invaders! Trump is the real Environmentalist! LOL

STONECOLD
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STONECOLD

Now the Mexicans know how WE feel…..GET THE ILLEGALS OUT OF THE US!

Peter Tyler
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Can anyone give me a reason Mexico didnt stop this caravan before they entered Mexico? Surely our military could have gone down there to assist?

Jackie Puppet
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Jackie Puppet

Judge Tigar fails to understand the PRIMARY purpose of a government is to protect its people from foreign invasion.

Otherwise, why have a government?

Tigar needs to be “disappeared” under the “Indefinite Detention Act” (aka NDAA). And he’s far from the only one that needs disappearing.

Sadly, America won’t be able to avoid a civil war, no matter what Trump does. As much as I hate to see martial law enacted, I don’t see any other way to save America, which will never be the same no matter what direction it goes.

Grigori Rasputin
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Grigori Rasputin

Is force going to be authorized for real or is this just more Kabuki Theatre? Trump looks very weak and spineless when he says something good like he did about shooting rock throwers, then backtracks and waffles when the libs who hate him start withering criticism. The WH is saying one thing, yet the military on the border is unarmed or doing their classic stunt of having empty guns, from what I read. This is a sick joke.

Flanders
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Flanders

“While the Leftist establishment media has been trying to brainwash Americans into believing that the “caravan” of aliens who are threatening to cross our southern border illegally are doing so without organization or logistical support from traitors inside America, our friends… [tell us something different].” “Peterson reported on a large group of aliens camped in Mexico City, the first and largest of five migrant “caravans” traversing through Mexico and headed north. Altogether, says Peterson, they comprise roughly 12,000 people, mainly from the three Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. A traitorous group of American immigration lawyers circulated… Read more »

Flanders
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Flanders

This is a story which is recently being floated to make the invasion forces sound peaceful “because everyone gets along so well”. Just because the source has “Military” in the title, don’t think it’s not just as controlled as the other (((media))) is . Their story is about a little border town where not very much happens on either side, at least during daylight hours, and may be true because of that, but the impression it tries to give should be seen as ridiculously false. There are probably as many Mexicans on the US side in New Mexico as there… Read more »

marlene
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marlene

Does that bridge in the picture cross from Mexico to the US? If so, I will have a lot to say about it.

Tim Shey
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marlene
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marlene

Thanks much. Now I can relax, a bit. I don’t think I can another issue…

marlene
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marlene

Oh for sure. I’d forgotten the word for it and wrote a longer response to Tim than was necessary – lol. Thanks. Here in the US, many of the left are “suffering” from it, especially our student youth who are confused, depressed, and overwhelmed. The leftist activists who violently embrace their servitude could be called suffering from the Jane Fonda Syndrome…?

Lophatt
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Lophatt

I have to hand it to him. This is precisely what they need to do:

https://nypost.com/2018/11/24/us-reaches-deal-that-would-make-asylum-seekers-wait-in-mexico/

I’ve been screaming that Mexico needs to be a major player in this for years. He gets results.

Lophatt
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Lophatt

Just a little more:

https://sputniknews.com/us/201811241070084057-trump-border-order-oval-office/

We’ve been saying this here for quite a while. His cabinet is his worst enemy. Looks like he’ll be fixing some of that.

CalGirl
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CalGirl

My first fear: the CA lower courts are running US foreign policy and border security/immigratioin policy and the CONGRESS has been ALLOWING IT for years and years. The POTUS seems powerless…tho’ through no fault of his own for trying….to stop them, even tho’ the Contsitution does NOT empower them in these areas, but the POTUS, instead….but, still, these courts take unto themselves powers reserved to the Federal Government…and the Congress…. My second fear: I live 10 miles above an inland border patrol station in CA, and about 70 miles above the border between Tijuana, Mexico, and me. What is going… Read more »