The failure of liberal logic summed up in two Oregon headlines

Headline One: E-cigarette deaths climb as officials confirm some illnesses caused by oil in lungs from vaping marijuana

Headline Two: Oregon is one step closer to being the first state to legalize psychedelic mushrooms

Details from Headline One: At least four people have died after using e-cigarettes and about 450 possible cases of severe lung diseases are now under investigation — more than doubling the breadth of the mysterious illness that has gripped the country, federal health officials announced Friday. The cases have spread to 33 states, most related to people vaping marijuana products, officials said.

Details from Headline Two: Oregon voters may get the chance to decide whether or not to become the first state to legalize psychedelic mushrooms next year. The ballot title for the Psilocybin Service Initiative, or Initiative Petition #34, was certified Friday and now supporters of a measure to legalize psilocybin in controlled settings can gather signatures to get the issue on the ballot in 2020. The initiative won’t mean that “magic” mushrooms are legal at all times and everywhere in the state. Instead, the measure would allow “manufacture, delivery, administration of psilocybin at supervised, licensed facilities.”

The recreational use of marijuana was passed in Oregon in 2014 under Ballot Measure 91. Its passage legalized the “recreational use of marijuana, based on regulation and taxation to be determined by the Oregon Liquor Control Commission”.

Yet who could have predicted the bad consequences from legalizing marijuana? That is rhetorical, of course.

So what do progressives want to legalize next? Psychedelic mushrooms!

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William
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I can state from experience that the use of psychedelic substances can induce subjective experiences that are profound and may sometimes lead to authentic spiritual and psychological insights. But that doesn’t mean that they will automatically. Indeed, I’ve known a number of people for whom the use of psychedelics resulted in states of chronic and disabling psychosis. Even indigenous native cultures who employ psychedelics in shamanic rituals emphasize the necessity of lengthy preparation -apprenticeships – and have great respect for their power. So this bill would seem to legalize “recreational” use in controlled settings (mushroom bars?). This is reckless in… Read more »

Dan
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Dan

It wasn’t enough for the cryptocracy to control minds. Now they’re going to legalize drugs that cause users to piss out their own brains. Like wow, dude, that’s so cool. As for everyday logic and, in this case logical coherence, yesterday it was denounced as sexist but now I see it’s being demoted to racism. For us, reasons generally mean facts and sound arguments for our conclusions, or at least we accept that as the norm. For the left reasons for their conclusions are generally their overwrought emotions, which command acceptance or else. They can’t really argue against facts and… Read more »

William
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The left, the dark side, doesn’t have to change in order to “win” in the temporal realm. But they know what the end game is and that accounts for their psychotic frenzy, attacking the very idea of objective truth. Without objectivity there is no science, no knowledge, but as you say all that matters to them is Power, and relativistic “truth” derived contextually from feels. I sometimes point out to those who deny that absolute objective truth exists that the statement “there are no absolute objective truths”, if true, must be false, since it logically must include the absolute objective… Read more »

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NoMo44
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NoMo44

Pure insanity-Oregon is rife with lowlifes and druggies-this is what they spend their hard work on? Legalizing stupidity?

Brendan Dubalos
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Brendan Dubalos

That’s these modern day progressives for ya. All about IQ worship and following establishment sources and no common sense.

Auntie Lulu
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Auntie Lulu

As an Oregonian, I can tell you, we have Communist leaders at the city, county and state level. They keep pushing for lax laws regarding drugs . . . after all people who are stoned are much easier to manage than those who have fully functioning brains.

kjf
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kjf

Adding to the zombie like homeless crisis. almost like you cannot be this stupid but part of the plan.

William
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William

It all makes sense if the plan, the objective, is chaos

Steven Broiles
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Marijuana is one thing, but from what I understand, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys tried LSD once, out of curiosity, and lived to regret it. (LSD is made from some kind of ergot fungus). I have read it can take the body ten years or more to get rid of it. I am very leery of any kind of fungus, as fungi are their own entity, being neither plant nor animal. Be that as it may, I smell the CIA at work here, pushing yet another hallucinogenic substance, only this time, without Timothy Leary. (And as the Moody Blues… Read more »

William
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Lysergic acid diethylamide was first isolated from the ergot fungus, which affects rye, by Dr. Albert Hoffman in 1939. He accidentally injested a tiny amount of it and had an intense hallucinatory experience. Infestations of ergot itself have occurred throughout history, referred to as ergotism or, in medieval times, as St. Anthony’s Fire. Ergot is toxic and can cause gangrene as well as hallucinations, and it was thought that praying to St. Anthony would alleviate it. There was an occurrence of ergotism in a small village in France in the 1950’s, documented in a book by Jack Higgins, The Day… Read more »

Dan
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I hadn’t read that Bill Wilson had LSD parties, altho he was openly a devotee of necromancy and communication with spirits through Ouija boards, and so much so that he claimed his (largely fictional) book was dictated to him by some spirit named Boniface in much the same way Aleister Crowley claimed his book was spirit writing dictated to him in his sleep by a spirit named Aiwass. I’ve also read Wilson routinely abused the hugger-muggery of AA to manipulate vulnerable new women into having sex with him, sort of like Jim Jones or Timothy Leary, which ties in with… Read more »

William
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William

The exploitation of vulnerable young women by AA “old-timers” is, or should be, well-known. So when working with drug-abusing young women I would refuse to refer them for such “treatment”. The last thing they needed was to be told by some lecherous old ex-drunk that they were “powerless”. Much , much more to say about the 12-step “program”, a syncretist cult. And plenty to say re: my “insider” experiences. I could write a book. Several books. When I get back, going camping

William
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William

The origins of AA are obscured by myth. It really began when Wilson formed some sort of alliance with Frank Buchman, an evangelist, in the mid 1930’s. Buchman had evangelized at Penn State Univ. but was apparently kicked out for unknown reasons. He then fetched up in Oxford UK where he had a ministry of sorts that involved witnessing during informal gatherings that he called “house parties”. His ministry was fundamentalist and known as the First Century Christian Fellowship but was more well-known as “The Oxford Groups”. At some point he returned to the US and met Wilson, I think… Read more »

TrailDust
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Oregon has lunatics running it into the ground! Is the actual voting population that stupid, or is this due to vote fraud?