In March 2008 the following story was published by Fox News.
The Headline was “Severed Fingers of Kidnapped Westerners Sent to U.S. Officials”
“MIAMI – A senior U.S. official confirmed to FOX News that the severed fingers of five Western hostages were delivered to U.S. government officials in Iraq, giving the men’s relatives hope that they are still alive.
The Austrian weekly magazine News first reported the delivery of the five fingers in Wednesday’s edition, citing unidentified authorities working on the case.
One of the kidnap victims in Iraq was a University of Florida student. The hostages have been missing for more than a year and U.S. authorities in Baghdad recently were sent their severed fingers.
Four of the men had been working as contractors when they were captured in a brazen ambush of their 43-truck supply convoy on Nov. 16, 2006.The men were working for Crescent Security Group, a Kuwait-based private security company.
They were kidnapped by men in Iraqi police uniforms who ambushed the convoy they were escorting near the southern city of Safwan.Patrick Reuben, a Minneapolis police officer whose twin brother, Paul Reuben, is among the missing, said late Wednesday the FBI told his family that “the fingers were confirmed to be those of the hostages.”
DNA samples had been identified 4 of the hostages. “John Young of Kansas City, who was seized with them. None of the fingers belonged to him”.
The story also informs us that the Western hostages appeared in two hostage videos released in December 2006 and January 2007 where demands were made for the United States to withdraw troops from Iraq and to free all Iraqi priosners.
In January, 1990 AP News ran the following story.
“NEW YORK (AP) _ A kidnapped 12-year-old boy whose finger was cut off to persuade his drug- dealing brother to pay ransom was found dead in a pile of plastic bags just days after the brother was killed, police said Monday.”
In this case the family was able to identify the body without the need for DNA testing.
Hostages severed fingers or other body parts delivered with the kidnappers demands is not a new concept. The problem is that it doesn’t really prove the hostage is the person they say it is. The only way to know for sure it’s the person is through DNA testing. This is common knowledge. It’s the same procedure when it comes to identifying remains of mangled bodies in car accidents, fire victims or a foot found in the woods without a body attached to it. If the body is missing or destroyed beyond recognition the only way to get a positive identification is with a DNA test. In some cases the victim may have some form of identification on them but that is not a 100% guarantee.
“Okay, DNA, two stories from 1990 and 2008. What’s the point?”
These two stories are just 2 examples out of thousands of how body parts have been used to identify people. The severed fingers story is more relevant to what I am discussing today. There are 2 main points to keep in mind. DNA testing was required to identify the identity of the fingers owners. Second point just proof that people in Iraq completely understand how body parts can be used to prove identity when a complete body is not present. (Shiite Muslim militias alegedly were the kidnappers of the 4 men)
It’s not inconceivable that people in the Middle East could fake a persons death and leave a body part behind to to identify the body. Perhaps a hand with a ring on one it’s fingers.
“People have faked their own deaths”
- TOM CAREW, author of “Jihad!” Carew was really Philip Sessarego. Served in the regular British army, not the SAS. Sessarego had faked his death in a car bombing in Croatia and reinvented himself as the dashing Carew in 1993.
- DAVID FRIEDLAND, New Jersey state senator. Faked his death in a scuba-diving accident in the Bahamas.
- JOHN STONEHOUSE, British Labour lawmaker. Faked his own death by leaving his clothes in a bundle on a Miami beach in 1974. (20 years after his death it was revealed that Stonehouse had been a Czech spy throughout the 1960s)
- KEN KESEYK, published novel “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. Parked on a cliff-side road in California. In his truck was suicide note. He wrote “Ocean, Ocean, I’ll beat you in the end” . A friend smuggled him into Mexico in the trunk of his car.
These are just a few examples of people that have faked their own deaths. Three of these examples were facing jail time. Each felt they had to escape in order to keep their freedom or to stay alive.
In 2011 Igor Vorotinov’s dead body was found. He turned up alive a couple of years later. He used someone elses body to fake his own death.
Could Iranian general Qassem Soleimani fake his death if someone gave him a hand?
There is no doubt in my mind that the the drone nailed the vehicles that it targeted. In case you missed it, below is a video of the airstrike and the aftermath.
As you can see in the video both vehicles are destroyed. Obviously, everyone in those vehicles were killed. So the question is “who were in the vehicles?”
There are mixed stories as to how many people were in the vehicles. My focus is on just one of the people that we are told was riding in one of the vehicles and is now dead. That would be Qassem Soleimani.
We are told the missle strike killed him. I found these 2 photos on Twitter along with the following message,
“Bad Death With One Hundred Virtues Do you, your father, be a martyr of anything? This fate awaits the rest of the IRGC commanders and those around them “
*second image is a link because the image is pretty gruesome
The tweet didn’t say if the body in the second image was Qassem Soleimani. To the best of my knowledge, the hand with the ring is all that’s left of him.
This is the part that where I see some problems. Besides being told Soleimani was in one of the cars, all we have is a hand with a Ring. They have confirmed they belonged to Soleimani simply because he wore a ring with a red stone.
For all we know that hand and ring could belong to this guy, He has a hand. He has a red ring,
I went ahead and found some images of Soleimani while he was wearing his rings. I tried to match them with the ring on the severed hand My results were that none of the images I found matched the severed hand. I’ve provided two images of my comparisons. You will notice the the setting of the severed hand is different the the rest. I found additional images and had the same results.
Here is a closer view.
Sorry, but a severed hand with a ring with a red stone is not enough to convince me. It’s disappointing that so many people do not question this. DNA?
I’m sure Trump and Pompeo think the evil general is dead. That was their mission. The airstrike was a perfect hit. Looks like a perfect kill. I would bet there were US assets on the ground to verify the hit. But there are some questions that should be asked.
- It’s this not a perfect time to take advantage of Trump’s huge ego?
- I Did anyone pay attention to the plane that Soleimani flew in on?
- Did anyone see who got off the plane when the two cars departed?
- Did anyone check the passenger log/crew log?
- Where was the planes next destination and were it’s passengers?
- Why did Iran respond with such a weak attack?
- The US killed their most loved general. Iran responded by killing how many Americans? Zero. I really find that hard to believe?
- In a head to head war, the US would crush Iran and bring it to it’s knees in a few days at the most. Why is Iran being made out as some huge threat to the USA?
- The U.S. has pursued Soleimani for decades The State Department revealed last year that his operations within Iraq since 2003 killed more than 600 American personnel. He has been sneaking around organizing terrorist groups or years. As untounhable as Soleimani thinks he is, he’s not stupid. He has to know he is a target. So why was his trip to Iraq not kept in secret?
- We are told Soleimani went to Iraq to meet with politicians and military allies. Trump had planned 8 months ago to take out Soleimani. Around June or July of 2019 Iran claimed to have captured 17 CIA agents. Is it not possible that some of those captured agents talked?
- Is it possible Soleimani learned about the hit on him and took precautions. Maybe the two cars were decoys and he stayed on the plane. Did he fool the world?
- Soleimani has been reported dead on several occasions in the past. It didn’t get much attention. Why all the attention now?
- Where is the DNA proof?
These are all important questions that require answers.
What it gets down to is either you trust the information presented to you from the MSM, our government, Iran, Iraq or any other government or you don’t trust it.
Will you accept a severed hand wearing a ring with a red stone as unconditional truth? Keep in mind that no match was found for the ring.
Remember that In April ,1979, the current regime had taken control of Iran.
In November, 1979, Iranian students seized US embassy personnel. Fifty-two hostages were held for 444 days until January 1981. This was done right after they learned that the Shah of Iran(ex-leader and king of Iran) went to the United States for cancer treatment. The current regime has no love for the USA.
No matter how you look at it, this is something that should be discussed and investigated.
Additional General information on Iran.
This does not include any current spy vs spy, CIA, etc operations that may or may not exist. I like to think this is the minimun amount of knowledege a person should before they can make any sort of accurate analysis on Iran. Some will say more, some will say less.
FACTUAL KEY HISTORICAL INFORMATION ON IRAN
This is just review of what I felt were the key events. Many events were left out. The data is still accurate. And the end result the same.
The Nazis were in Iran in WWII. Iran didn’t kick them out. During its occupation by the Nazi’s Iran was controlled by monarch Rezā Shāh. At the Tehran Conference of 1943, the Allies(USA, USSR,GB, France,Australia, etc) issued the Tehran Declaration. It gave Iran independence and boundaries when war ended.(USSR didn’t leave until 1946). Mohammad Reza Pahlavas had taken his fathers place as Shah(King of Iran). In 1949 He was able to get the Senate of Iran formed. In 1951 Reza(the Shah) appointed Mohammad Mosaddegh as Prime Minister(PM) after he was approved by the Parliament.
Mosaddegh took control of the British built/owned oil refineries which caused problems for Iran. A British boycott of Iran’s oil had been iniated and enforced. . During Mosaddeh time as PM part of his land reform act was that land owners give 20% of their land to its tenants. During his time as PM Iran he implemented his socialist ideologies and was destroying Iran’s economy.
In 1951, Realizing that the opposition would take the vast majority of the provincial seats, Mosaddegh stopped the voting when it reached 79 deputies. Just enough to form a parliamentary quorum. He suspended the elections using Foreign influence as the reason.
In 1952. Mosaddeh made some requests to parliament that would have given him more power in the government, while weakening the Shah’s position. After being denied the request, he resigned.
Mosaddegh loyalist, the National Front, Islamist, Tudeh. socialist parties along with various Nationalist started protest and causing problems. They called for the assassinations of the Shah and other royalists. Major strikes broke out in all of Iran’s major towns, with the Bazaar closing in Tehran. Over 250 demonstrators in Tehran, Ramadan, Ahvaz, Isfahan, and Kermanshah were killed or suffered serious injuries. After 5 days the military quit trying to maintain order.
The shah put Mosaddegh back as PM. Mosaddegh then managed to get full control of the military. He then continued to work against the Shah until he was removed.
As his dictatorial powers grew, his political supporters were turning on him, By 1953 Mosaddeh had lost a lot of support from members of parliment and others throughout the government, including one of his key political allies, House Speaker Ayatollah AbolGhasem Kashani.
Iranians distrust in Mosaddeh grew. Largley because of the failing economy. Britain had been boycotting Iran after he took control of British refineries so no money had been coming in from oil.
In April, 1953 in America funds were appoved to be used to pay for activities, operations that could assist in the removal of PM Mosaddegh. Britain wanted its refineries back. America was worried about his close ties to communism(so we are told). Mosaddeh had supporters that were socialist and communist supporters. Part of the CIA’s plan was to make it appear like Mosaddegh he was a communist.
In August 1953, the Shah formally dismissed the prime minister in a written decree, an act that had been made part of the constitution during the Constitution Assembly of 1949. Mossadegh escaped and then turned himself in. He ended up getting 3 years solitary confinement in a military prison in December, 1953. He died under house arrest in 1967. They buried him in his living room. He wasn’t allowed to have a funeral.
Martial law ended in 1957. Iran began modernization economic growth at an unprecedented rate. The US paid for a large part of Irans reconstruction.
In early June 1963 several days of massive rioting occurred in support of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini following the cleric’s arrest for a speech attacking the shah.
In the early 70s region’s strongest military power. Iran had problems with leftist guerrilla groups such as Mujaheddin-e-Khalq (MEK)that attacked the regime along with foreign targets. We are told 1978 the first major demonstrations took place of the Islamic Revolution. The movement, itself, had started long before this date.
In January 1979 Mohammad Reza Pahlavi left the country after strikes and demonstrations paralyzed the country.
In February 1979 Ayatollah Khomeini returned to Tehran.
On February 11, 1979 Iran’s military gave up again declared itself “neutral” after guerrillas and rebel troops overwhelmed troops loyal to the Shah in armed street fighting.
In April 1979 officially became an Islamic Republic.
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini became Supreme Leader of Iran until his death in 1989.
Mohammad Mosaddegh was removed because he abused his power. The Shah could have ruled with an Iron Fist, but he chose the route where his country prospers. When the Shah had regained control of the country. Iran had did exactly that, prosper. Mosaddegh desire for power held Iran back. He reduced the size of the army, Iran’s army couldn’t even keep control of country. Two times we witnessed this. Ultimately, this is how the Shah lost control of the country. Too small of an army. ( Exactly what Obama was trying to do with the military in the USA. Reduce our army so it could be overpowered.)
Attempting to overthrow a king of a country is usually a penalty of death. Mosaddegh got very lucky.
MORE OBVIOUS TRUTH THAT GET SKIPPED
People keep referring to Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi as a dictator. That simply isn’t true. From 1501 until 1979 Iran had been a monarchy ruled by an emperor almost without interruption. When Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlav replaced his father initially there were hopes that post-occupation Iran could become a constitutional monarchy.
The Shah willingly gave up some of his power and kept a” hands-off role” in government. allowing parliament to hold a lot of power.
“Some elections were held in the first shaky years, although they remained mired in corruption. “Parliament became chronically unstable, and from the 1947 to 1951 period Iran saw the rise and fall of six different prime ministers. Pahlavi increased his political power by convening the Iran Constituent Assembly, 1949, which finally formed the Senate of Iran, a legislative upper house allowed for in the 1906 constitution.”
“His father, Rezā Shāh was all about moderization. He encouraged women not to wear their hijabs. He wanted his people to wear the same type of clothing the people in the west were wearing. He wanted his people to evolve. His mistake was not kicking out the Germans in WWII. They had him convinced that they were going to win the war.
His son Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlav gave Iranians even more freedom.”
The Shah was the one that was overthrown by a dictator, Say yid Ruhollah Khomeini(9 years as Supreme Leader of Iran).
The Supreme leader is above the president in Iran. The current one is Say yid Ali Djamena. Almost 31 years as Supreme Leader.
The Supreme Leader is elected and overseen by the Assembly of Experts. Candidates for membership at the Assembly of Experts (including the President and the parliament are appointed by the Guardian Council, whose members in turn, are appointed by the Supreme Leader.
All directly-elected members of the Assembly of Experts still require the Supreme Leader’s approval even after the Guardian Council’s vetting process.
The supreme leader is considered always right.
The Supreme leader is never questioned.
The Supreme Leader is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and the provisional head of the three branches of the state the Judiciary, the Legislature, and the Executive
Elections in are currently for show in Iran.
The Supreme leader is a dictator.
People should be perfectly clear that from the years 501 to 1979 Iran had been controlled by a king or emperor. Much like Great Britain with an Islamic twist. The current form of government has only existed since 1979. They like to call it a theocracy and presidential democracy. The truth is the country is controlled by 1 man, the Ayatollah. He has final say and controll of everything. He cannot be questioned. How would you define him and his role?
The problem is not Iran in general. The problem is Islamic agression. Qassem Soleimani isn’t loved because of the country he is from. He’s not loved because he defends Iran. All Iranians don’t love him. He is only loved by Muslims. He is a soldier of Islam. He fights for Islam. That is why Muslims in other countries love him.
You will not find one christian in the Middle East that loves Soleimani. Not unless they are from America and are a liberal or democrat. Christian democrats and Christian liberals in America seem to love Soleimani. Actually, I’ll rephrase that. Satan worshipping democrats and Satan worshipping liberals love Soleimani. Iran’s army isn’t the army of Iran, to protect Iran. It’s the army of Islam, to protect Muslims.
Islam becomes the religion of peace only when every person on the planet is Muslim.
Always fact check and do your own research.
Respectfully, Deplorable Patriot
*CIA operation “Ajax” took place during the year of 1953