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More big retailers ask customers not to openly carry in their stores

I never open carry because I don’t like to advertise the fact that I have a firearm. Yet I get why some people do open carry. It’s just not for me.

I prefer concealment because if should I ever need to use my firearm, I would prefer the element of surprise.

Yet for those who do prefer to open carry, the right of others’ feelings uncomfortable at the sight of a gun takes precedence over one’s right to self defense.

From HuffPo: More large retail companies are asking that customers no longer openly carry guns in their stores following last month’s deadly mass shooting in a Texas Walmart.

Walgreens, Wegmans and CVS are the latest nationwide retail chains to make the request after Walmart on Wednesday ― and Kroger soon after ― asked customers not to do so, even in so-called open carry states that allow the practice. Walmart’s request came with an announcement that the nation’s largest retailer would stop selling handgun ammunition and “short-barrel rifle ammunition.”

Walmart’s decision came on the heels of a mass shooting inside an El Paso, Texas, store in early August that left 22 people dead. That same week, an employee who had been suspended shot and killed two co-workers in a Mississippi Walmart where he worked.

“As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same,” Walmart CEO Doug McMillon said in a memo to employees on Tuesday.

The week after the El Paso shooting, police arrested an armed man who caused chaos when he walked into a Walmart in Springfield, Missouri, while wearing body armor and military-style clothing. The same week, a man calling himself an “anti-gun activist” was questioned by police after he asked a clerk in a Florida Walmart for a gun that would “kill 200 people.”

Hours after Walmart’s announcement, Kroger, the nation’s largest grocery chain, followed with its own request asking customers not to openly carry.

“Kroger has demonstrated with our actions that we recognize the growing chorus of Americans who are no longer comfortable with the status quo and who are advocating for concrete and common sense gun reforms,” Kroger said in a statement.

On Thursday, Walgreens, CVS and Wegmans made similar requests.

Walmart said the policy would not be enforced, but that management is instructed to contact law enforcement if they feel threatened.

“It’s a respectful request,” Walmart spokesperson Ragan Dickens told HuffPost. “And if they do not listen to the request, we’ve asked management to evaluate each situation. If an individual is a potential threat, the manager on duty can contact law enforcement.”

It’s not clear how other stores will enforce the new policies, but Kris Brown of advocacy group Brady United told CNN that the move by Walmart is “telling the NRA that logic does not support what they’ve been saying — this ‘good guy with a gun’ idea is patently false.”

HuffPost has reached out to all of the retailers for comment on how they plan to enforce the policies, if at all.

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Check out some of the ignorant comments from this HuffPo article:

“What will all them “Patriots” do when they can’t wear their “Strap-ons” in public? How will they attract a mate?

“In 1981 I visited Moscow. The first thing that really struck me were the soldiers at the airport, all heavily armed. That was the case throughout the city and was the one thing I could not get used to seeing. I would feel the same way going into a store here and seeing fellow shoppers that were heavily armed. I always assume that a person carrying a gun is a person ready to use a gun. How am I supposed to discern what that person’s motives are?

Those folks carrying guns are the scared ones, and many are angry or crazy. And yet when guns are used in stores, not one good guy comes to anyone’s assistance. So why have them? To make the scaredy cats feel like a big man. Take their guns and they’re wimps.

just leave your P-nus enhancer at home.

“Anyone who needs to swagger around wearing a holster when they’re buying eggs or socks probably isn’t someone who should be armed in the first place. We don’t need Dirty Harry wannabes hoping they get to be heroes.”

“Regardless of the arguments for or against open carry, it is important to remember the children. American children are aware of these mass shootings and have been traumatized by them. There is a fear of going shopping, a fear of going to school and a fear of going to the synagogue. Imagine the fear a child may experience on seeing some strange man carrying a gun in one of these stores. It is a self-centred and unfeeling for those phallic challenged men to want to go shopping with a gun.”

“Just a thought. If you should stumble into my universe, ie. I see you, I think I would point at you, in public and start laughing. I would giggle so hard, asking you if you are ready to shoot somebody here? Show me your ID and proof you can carry that gun.

Here’s my proof that I can carry:

The comments on this story appear to me that many of these people 1) Have never been around firearms, shot a gun nor have friends who prefer to open carry, 2) Do not understand that criminals do not open carry, 3) Do not live in rural areas, and 4) Have a major infatuation with inanimate objects of which they do not understand.

I believe that what most of these anti-gun advocates really don’t understand is that the LAST thing us law-abiding citizens want to do is actually take a human life with our firearm.

In any proper firearm training you learn one of the basic four rules: Be sure of your target and what is in front of it and behind it.

It was reiterated to me during my training – many, many times – that if you are going to fire you need to be prepared to accept the consequence of your action and understand that you may take a human life. You CANNOT take back that bullet. That is YOUR responsibility and if you choose to fire, the decision will live with you the rest of your life.

To assume that those who open carry do so to “make them feel like a big man” (or woman), that they are “wimps,” or that they want to be “heroes” means you really don’t understand our desire for self preservation.

If you’re worried about being the victim of a mass shooting because someone open carries a gun, you really should check your fears: Actual mass shootings remain a statistical rarity and much-exaggerated threat.

A study commissioned by Obama in 2013 determined that “violent crimes, including homicides specifically, have declined in the past five years.” It also pointed out that “some firearm violence results in death, but most does not.” In fact, the CDC report said, most incidents involving the discharge of firearms do not result in a fatality.

So while gun-grabbers celebrate the fact that “wimps” are no longer allowed to open carry in several retail chains, they will feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel safer. Until the next criminal decides not to follow the law.

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Walmart to ban open carry, stop selling handgun ammo & wants more gun control

A criminal intent on committing a shooting doesn’t need to buy ammunition at Walmart. A criminal doesn’t typically open carry.

When this doesn’t prevent the next mass shooting, what next? We all know the answer to that, of course.

From Yahoo: Walmart said Tuesday it would discontinue the sale of handgun ammunition.

The Bentonville, Arkansas-based retailer also said it would ban shoppers from openly carrying firearms in its stores, even in states that allow doing so.

The announcements come in the wake of three mass shootings in the last month, including one that took place at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas. Prior to the El Paso shooting, which left 22 people dead, a Walmart employee who had been suspended shot and killed two co-workers in the Mississippi store where he worked on July 30.

“As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same,” Walmart’s CEO Doug McMillon said in a memo to employees on Tuesday.

Walmart said it would stop selling short-barrel rifle ammunition, including the .223 caliber and 5.56 caliber sometimes used in high-capacity magazines on assault-style weapons. The company also said it would discontinue handgun sales in Alaska, the only remaining state where Walmart sells handguns.

“We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand,” McMillon said.

The CEO noted that the changes will allow Walmart to focus solely on hunting rifles and related ammunition. “We have a long heritage as a company of serving responsible hunters and sportsmen and women, and we’re going to continue doing so,” McMillon said.

The changes will also reduce Walmart’s market share of ammunition from roughly 20% to a range of about 6% to 9%, the memo said.

Walmart has steadily tightened its policies surrounding ammunition sales in recent years, including ceasing to sell assault-style rifles in 2015. The company last year raised the minimum age to purchase guns and ammunition at its stores to 21 after a former student killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida.

After the El Paso shooting, Walmart told employees to take down any video game signs and displays depicting violence. Critics demanded more from the retailer, though, including that it stop contributing to the campaigns of politicians backed by the National Rifle Association.

McMillon didn’t mention the NRA in his memo but said he was sending letters to the White House and members of Congress calling on them to take action on gun violence.

“We encourage our nation’s leaders to move forward and strengthen background checks and to remove weapons from those who have been determined to pose an imminent danger,” McMillon said. “We do not sell military-style rifles, and we believe the reauthorization of the Assault Weapons ban should be debated to determine its effectiveness. We must also do more, as a country, to understand the root causes that lead to this type of violent behavior.”

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Read Walmart’s full statement here.

We all know this action will do nothing to stops criminals from doing their thing. But true to progressive form, their feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings are what truly matter.

Check out some of the Twitter responses to this action:

“Thank you for taking steps, reguarding open carry in your stores and sales, to make a difference in both our feelings of safety inside a Walmart location AND within our country!!!”

“Thank you for changing your gun policy and protecting my family. You’ll have my business going foward.”

“I haven’t shopped at Wal-Mart in years. My family and I will now shop there to support your commitment to doing what’s right. Please push hard against legislators to get better from them. Your business and the public have suffered horrific violence bc of the NRA and its puppets.”

“Thank you for the new gun policy. I feel safer in your stores.”

“Wow. @WalmartInc thank you for taking these common sense steps to make us all feel safer. I come from a family that hunts. I raise & train hunting retrievers. I agree with everything you are doing & will proudly (& safely) shop at your stores. Thank you for putting people first.”

“Thank you Walmart! Help keep our communities safe. Rifles and ammunition don’t belong in supermarkets.” (Oh, make sure to tell that to the criminals.)

“Thank you, Walmart. Boycotting you was hard as hell, since you’re the only game in town. I’ll happily shop with you again, and, honestly, will feel safer in your stores.”

“Wow I’m going to shop at your store at least I’ll feel safe.”

Thanks for nothing Walmart. I live in a small town with three Walmart grocery stores. The only other decent grocery chain is much more expensive. Guess I’ll be shopping there from now on.

The left will never learn this simple fact: You can never create enough rules/laws to control EVIL. Evil does not follow the rules/laws.

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Oklahoma governor signs Constitutional Carry into law

For those opposed to this (local police are opposed.…that’s another story I may blog about at a later time), think about how many times you’ve seen criminals open carry.

I see many people open carry here in my town in OK: At the vet, Chick-fil-A, the local convenience store, Wal-Mart, PetCo, etc. I have never, ever, ever felt threatened by witnessing a person open carry.

I prefer to conceal carry because I’m a woman and don’t want to advertise the fact that I have guns. I don’t want some man following me and thinking he can 1) overpower me and 2) know of a home that has firearms to steal.

Yet women who choose to open carry now have a distinct advantage to practice their Constitutional right!

Thank you Governor Stitt for recognizing our Second Amendment right!

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From KTUL: Just three weeks from start to finish, the “Constitutional Carry” bill has a new nickname for the folks who pushed it through.

“Well, we should have probably renamed it the ‘Whiplash Bill,'” said Don Spencer, president of the Second Amendment Association. That’s cause the speed at which it traveled through the process was stunning. Predictions on what’s next?

“Gun sales will go up, also we’re already seeing the list for people wanting training going up because they know they don’t have to put a license through the state to carry the gun now,” said Spencer.

“Do I think that there will be some people going out and buying some new handguns? Maybe something smaller, lighter, easier to carry? Yeah, there will probably be for the next six to eight months an increase of especially conceal carry type handguns sold,” said Eric Fuson with Trails End Trading Company.

Meanwhile, a dire prediction from former TPD officer and gun control advocate Rex Berry. “More guns in more wrong hands means more gun tragedies means more fear means more guns sold,” said Berry. “One of the arguments is it’s not a gun, it’s a mental health issue. Take a look at what our state legislature or our US government has done to fund mental health. It’s a BS argument,” said Berry.

Spencer’s response to the critics? “Well to the critics I say this, if it wasn’t for the Second Amendment and us being able to exercise it, you would not have the protection of your First Amendment to be up here and make that criticism,” said Spencer.

And finally a reminder, that just because there’s less paperwork, doesn’t mean there’s less responsibility. “Just because there is no permit require to carry doesn’t mean there’s not liability for carrying a firearm, and you must know the laws that govern the use of force in the state of Oklahoma and where you cannot carry,” said Fuson.

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