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Washington senator insists insurance bill is not about gun control

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Maralyn Chase: Fully believes in your Second Amendment rights, HOWEVER…

Attention Ms. Chase:

  1. You have a Constitutional right to own a firearm. A home or car is not a Constitutional right.
  2. You do NOT have to purchase insurance (unless you are financing in which case it is usually required). Sure, you take on higher risks and even fines yet there are plenty of people who opt out of purchasing insurance.

From MyNorthwest.com: The Washington State Legislature is considering a series of gun control measures that includes Attorney General Bob Ferguson’s assault weapon ban and a gun lock safety bill.

One senator has introduced a measure that takes on the issue a different way, requiring liability insurance before someone can buy a gun.

Sen. Maralyn Chase (D-Edmonds) says people have to buy insurance for their homes, their cars, and other items, so having it for guns makes sense to her (of course it does – she’s a democrat).

Chase insists her bill is not about gun control, but rather public and private protections.

“I fully believe in Second Amendment rights, however, with those rights come great responsibilities,” Chase said. “We see the destructive power of guns almost nightly on the news and yet we do not require gun owners to have any type of liability insurance. Requiring liability insurance may cause an irresponsible gun owner to exercise extra care in preventing firearm-related accidents, especially in tragic accidents involving children.”

Dave Workman, senior editor of thegunmag.com, doesn’t believe gun liability insurance will do anything to cut down on crime or gun related accidents. “This is one more hoop that somebody is trying to throw out there to require people to jump through before they can exercise a civil right,” he said. “If they did this, or tried to do this, the howling would be heard all the way from our Washington to Washington D.C.”

Workman says politicians can only go so far with something like this before getting a negative reaction from the public. He doesn’t believe the bill will get much traction in Olympia.

Senator Chase agrees. She admits it will be difficult to get it out of the Senate given the current political makeup. But, she says, it’s important to get the discussion started. For now, her bill sits in the Senate’s Law and Justice Committee, with no hearing scheduled.

There is one group that’s in favor of gun liability insurance — insurance companies. Insurance companies sell policies for self-defense use of guns and concealed carry. It’s even NRA-endorsed. As described in a video promoting “Second Call Defense,” the “legal aftermath of a self-defense shooting can sometimes seem worse than what causes you to use lethal force in the first place.” (See the video at the MyNorthwest.com article.)

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Court rules that Florida doctors can ask patients about guns and gun safety

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Circuit Court Judge Adalberto Jordan

Guns, what guns?

From Fox News: A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that Florida doctors can talk to patients about gun safety, declaring a law aimed at restricting such discussions a violation of the First Amendment’s right to free speech.

The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals found that the law does not trespass on patients’ Second Amendment rights to own guns and noted a patient who doesn’t want to be questioned about that can easily find another doctor.

“The Second Amendment right to own and possess firearms does not preclude questions about, commentary on, or criticism for the exercise of that right,” wrote Circuit Judge Adalberto Jordan (appointed by Obama and born in Cuba) in one of two majority opinions covering 90 pages. “There is no actual conflict between the First Amendment rights of doctors and medical professionals and the Second Amendment rights of patients.”

Circuit Judge William Pryor, who was a finalist in President Donald Trump’s search for a Supreme Court nominee, said in a separate concurring opinion that the First Amendment must protect all points of view.

“The promise of free speech is that even when one holds an unpopular point of view, the state cannot stifle it,” he wrote. “The price Americans pay for this freedom is that the rule remains unchanged regardless of who is in the majority.”

The law was passed in 2011 and signed by Republican Gov. Rick Scott with strong support from the National Rifle Association. It was the only one of its kind in the nation, although similar laws have been considered in other states.

Supporters in the Republican-controlled Florida Legislature insisted it was necessary because doctors were overstepping their bounds and pushing an anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment agenda.

The law was challenged almost immediately by thousands of physicians, medical organizations and other groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union as a violation of free speech in what became known as the “Docs v. Glocks” case. A legal battle has raged in the courts since then, with several conflicting opinions issued.

“We are thrilled that the court has finally put to bed the nonsensical and dangerous idea that a doctor speaking with a patient about gun safety somehow threatens the right to own a gun,” said Howard Simon, executive director of the ACLU of Florida.

The 11th Circuit noted that Florida lawmakers appeared to base the law on “six anecdotes” about physicians’ discussions of guns in their examination rooms and little other concrete evidence that there is an actual problem. And doctors who violated the law could face professional discipline, a fine or possibly loss of their medical licenses.

“There was no evidence whatsoever before the Florida Legislature that any doctors or medical professionals have taken away patients’ firearms or otherwise infringed on patients’ Second Amendment rights,” Jordan wrote for the court.

The NRA and Florida attorneys had argued that under the law doctors could ask about firearms if the questions were relevant to a patient’s health or safety, or someone else’s safety, and that the law was aimed at eliminating harassment of gun owners. But the 11th Circuit said there was no evidence of harassment or improper disclosure of gun ownership in health records, as law supporters also claimed.

“There is nothing in the record suggesting that patients who are bothered or offended by such questions are psychologically unable to choose another medical provider, just as they are permitted to do if their doctor asks too many questions about private matters like sexual activity, alcohol consumption, or drug use,” the court ruled.

The ruling did determine that some parts of the law could remain on the books, such as provisions allowing patients to decline to answer questions about guns and prohibiting health insurance companies from denying coverage or increasing premiums for people who lawfully own guns.

The case will return to U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke in Miami for a ruling that follows the 11th Circuit’s direction. The case could, however, also be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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California “snafu” releases personal information of nearly 4,000 gun safety instructors

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From Fox News: The private information of thousands of California firearms instructors was accidentally released by the state late last year in response to a journalist’s Freedom of Information request.

The data request was made in August, when a reporter for Southern California Public Radio (KPCC), an NPR affiliate, sought all information on Firearms Safety Certifications available from the California Department of Justice.

The information was released in October, and a clerical error gave the reporter wide access to the personal information of 3,424 firearms instructors — whose dates of birth, driver’s license numbers and California identification numbers were handed over, according to NRA-ILA, the legislative arm of the National Rifle Association.

The error was caught two months later, and the California DOJ sent out a letter to all of the Golden State’s instructors letting them know their personal information had been compromised.

“The Department discovered the data breach on October 17, 2016, and notified the requestor of the error and asked that the information be destroyed and that no further dissemination of it occur,” said the letter, sent by the Office of the Attorney General Kamala Harris. Harris is now a U.S. senator.

The letter also recommended the firearm instructors place a fraud alert on their credit. Since driver’s license numbers are appealing to identity thieves, a fraud alert could prevent criminals from misusing someone’s personal data.

NRA officials blasted the California DOJ for its data breach and questioned why it took the department so long to alert the thousands who were affected. “This privacy breach is just another example of the California Department of Justice’s disregard for the rights of gun owners,” Jennifer Baker, director of public affairs for the NRA, said to FoxNews.com.  “There’s no reason why the private information of firearms instructors should have been released – the DOJ redacts information all the time.”

Baker also questioned the length of time it took the state to inform victims of the breach.  “It’s time the California government start awarding gun owners the same respect as it does non-gun owners.”

Some security experts said that while it wasn’t a significant data breach, there is still cause for concern. “The main concern, if any, would be identity theft, simply because it is so prevalent,” police consultant and retired Los Angeles Police Lt. Raymond Foster said to FoxNews.com. “I don’t think anyone would threaten these instructors, but one concern is that many of them are retired police officers and that could put them at an additional risk. Most of them when they are off-duty like to lie low and blend in. But I’d imagine that NPR would never publish this info and would likely just rip it up.”

The reporter, who the NRA-ILA identifies as Aaron Mendelson, acknowledged in his FOIA request that part of his request would be redacted. “…Please inform me of the redaction and the legal justification for it,” said the request, which was obtained by FoxNews.com.

Since receiving the data, it appears that none of the information has been published in any recent stories. In its letter to firearm instructors, the California DOJ said that it had asked the reporter to destroy the information he received and if he did not do so he would face legal action.

Neither Mendelson nor officials for Southern California Public Radio immediately returned calls for comment.

Gun instructors in California took the news of their information being released in stride. Dennis Santiago, an independent gun safety instructor in the Los Angeles area, who received the DOJ letter, told FoxNews.com he at first thought it was a hacking incident. “I was speaking with other instructors at a gun shop about it and they didn’t seem too concerned,” Santiago said. “They took it as being the cost of being in America.”

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Agitators Call for End to FedEx Discount for NRA Members

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From Bloomberg: A coalition of gay-rights and gun-control activists is taking on FedEx Corp. for discounts it offers to members of the National Rifle Association, targeting the global shipper during the peak of the holiday season.

The group is launching an online campaign and planned to protest on Wednesday at FedEx retail stores in Denver; Atlanta; Memphis, Tennessee; and Orlando, Florida, said Igor Volsky, director of Guns Down, a Washington-based group that advocates for fewer guns in the U.S. and is one of 10 participating organizations. A Dec. 7 letter to the company got no response, he said. FedEx doesn’t comment on specific customer agreements, Melissa Charbonneau, a spokeswoman, said in an e-mailed statement.

FedEx offers shipping discounts of as much as 26 percent to members of the NRA, the gun-rights group with 5 million members, as part of a program that also has special offers for Visa Inc. cards, according to Guns Down. Separate programs offer deals on Hertz rental cars and Wyndham hotels, according to the NRA website.

“FedEx is one of the biggest and most recognizable brands” with NRA discounts, Volsky said. “If they really value investing in under-served communities, which we think they do, then partnering with the NRA really undermines that mission.”

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LGBT groups have increased their anti-gun activism since a shooting in June that killed 49 people at the Pulse gay nightclub in Orlando. Human Rights Campaign, the largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy group, added gun safety to its action platform for the first time this year, although it’s not part of this campaign.

Guns Down is joined by Color of Change, which advocates for minorities, Newton Action Alliance and Pride Fund to End Gun Violence, Volsky said. Color of Change was credited for helping discourage companies from supporting this year’s Republican National Convention because of President-elect Donald Trump’s views on minorities.

Gays Against Guns, a separate group, also has targeted FedEx, Hertz Global Holdings Inc. and Wyndham Worldwide Corp. for giving discounts to NRA members. In August, it called out BlackRock Inc. for investments in gun companies in index-based funds. The New York-based company has said it supports LGBT rights and that the gun investments are automatic, as part of the index, and not managed by BlackRock.

FedEx, which is based in Memphis, and United Parcel Service Inc. have forecast they will handle record package volumes this holiday shopping season, fueled by an estimated 17 percent jump in online spending. FedEx handled 325 million packages in the 2015 peak shipping season, and has hired more than 50,000 temporary workers for this year’s period.

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Gun-control professor calls for shooting up NRA, leaving no survivors

An important mark of sanity is that one must conform to the rules of logic.

Liberals, however, are creatures of illogic and are prone to logical fallacies. As an example, this blog, Fellowship of the Minds, regularly gets comments by liberal trolls scolding us for being “judgmental” and lecturing us to “judge not”. But it escapes them that in scolding us for being “judgmental,” liberals are being just that — “judgmental” — and so violate their own injunction to “judge not”.

The latest example of liberal illogic is an adjunct assistant professor of philosophy at a community college in Ohio who is anti-gun and pro-gun control.

Note: Being an “adjunct” means one is not tenured, nor even on tenure-track, but teaches part-time and can be terminated at any time

On June 13, 2016, Adjunct Assistant Professor James Pearce of Southern State Community College (SSCC) wrote on Facebook, calling on “us anti-gun types…to arm ourselves, storm the NRA [National Rifle Association] headquarters”, killing everyone so as to “make sure there are no survivors”. Here’s a screenshot of his Facebook post:

James Pearce on FacebookIn other words, a professor who is pro-gun control wants to use guns to kill everyone at the NRA.

Ironically, Pearce calls his Facebook page a “Hate Free Zone” (see the red arrow I painted below).

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The Highland County Press reported that Pearce’s comments were sent to law enforcement and Pearce’s employer, SSCC, on June 15.

On June 17, SSCC Security and Emergency Response coordinator Gary Heaton told the Highland County Press that the information had been reported to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, and that “The Attorney General advised [SSCC Vice President] Dr. Roades to take no action until the Feds had completed an investigation.”

It was only after Amber Athey, on July 6, 2016, reported Pearce’s call to murder for Campus Reform that Pearce lamely wrote on Facebook that “It was suppose [sic] to be a joke, folks” and issued an apology. Here’s a screenshot of his post:

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Kris Cross, Director of Public Relations for SSCC, told Campus Reform that “it is the college’s policy not to comment on individual personnel matters,” but did offer some general observations of potential relevance to the case:

“In general, the college would alert local authorities about any threats that were made known to the college, especially any threats made to students, faculty or staff. We have a good working relationship with the police jurisdictions covering each of our four campuses, and trust they would follow their protocols for reporting to other agencies. As I understand it, a report does not necessarily mean an investigation.”

When asked if Pearce would continue to teach during the investigation, Cross stated, “Certainly any criminal prosecution and findings could be a consideration for employment decisions in any matter of criminal conduct.”

James Pearce is a failure as a college professor. As shown in his Facebook page, prior to his appointment at SSCC, he was an associate professor at Illinois Central College. But now at SSCC, not only is he merely an “adjunct,” he’s an adjunct assistant professor, which means that somewhere along the line he was demoted from associate professor to assistant professor.

Pathetic.

Pearce’s demotion is not surprising given the fact that although he teaches philosophy, he does not appear to grasp what “logic” means and what being logically consistent entails.

Let’s make sure Southern State Community College fires this loser. The President of SSCC is Dr. Kevin Boys. Here’s his contact info:

~Eowyn

Another professor blames Christians for Orlando shooting

I’d like to know how Ms. McNamara can explain all the shootings in Chiraq, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. I won’t hold my breath for an answer any time soon.

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The nutty professor…

From Campus Reform: In the wake of the Orlando tragedy, many pundits and professors have taken the opportunity to scorn Christians who want to uphold a traditional definition of marriage, arguing that there is really no distinction between fundamentalist Christianity and radical Islam.

In just the latest instance, University of Maryland instructor Leslie McNamara claims that ISIS’ “distorted interpretation” of Islam is in fact “not different” whatsoever from the views many Christians espouse.

Yet there will be those who will attempt to connect Mateen’s homophobia to Islam. In support of their argument, they will point to Muslim-majority countries, such as Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, where homosexuality is a capital crime. However, there are countries where the majority of the population is Christian, such as Barbados and Antigua and Barbuda, where it is illegal to be gay,” she continues.

Though homosexual activity is illegal in Antigua and Barbuda, the State Department said in its Antigua and Barbuda 2014 Human Rights Report that the law against it “was not strictly enforced,” and that “[t]here were no reports of violence committed against LGBT persons during the year.”

Notably, the ten countries where being thrown from a rooftop is an acceptable punishment for homosexual acts are not just “Muslim-majority” but are governed by Sharia law—the uniquely Islamic body of law. Barbados and Antigua and Barbuda, on the other hand, have strong Christian correlations but are not governed by any explicit Christian set of laws.

Furthermore, the two island countries have a combined estimated population of 383,040 whereas the estimated population of the ten countries where homosexuality is punishable by death is 408,718,813, according to the CIA’s World Factbook.

McNamara blasts conservative lawmakers and the NRA for preventing stricter gun control laws, saying the Orlando tragedy could have been prevented with a few more “background checks.”

The reality of the Orlando incident is that all of this could have been prevented if the United States had stricter gun regulations including background checks. It is unfathomable that Mateen, who had been twice investigated by the FBI, was still able to buy the assault rifle and handgun he used to commit the horrendous act,” she writes, blaming gun control retailers for the Orlando massacre rather than a negligent FBI.

“Another problem is the simplistic narrative of gun control, as voiced by the NRA, in which it is continually alleged that gun control reform is a violation of the Second Amendment,” she adds.

McNamara then concludes by calling on her fellow gun control advocates to defeat the “inaccurate narrative” presented by the NRA.

“The NRA has been widely successful at delivering this message, while gun control advocates have failed to defeat this inaccurate narrative,” she writes, adding that “with this Congress, stricter gun regulation is doubtful.”

Indeed, the Senate rejected two proposals Monday evening for more expansive background checks as well as two measures that would have prevented suspected terrorists from buying guns.

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HuffPo writer: “We Must Admit That More Than One Person Is Guilty in the Orlando Shooting”

As well as the expected blame of the NRA, Donald Trump and republicans, there are A LOT of people he’s going to blame. I’m on the list and I’m pretty sure you are as well as.

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Andrew Sotomayor Twitter pic

About the author Andrew Sotomayor: He is a celebrity makeup artist, Mexican American, tall vegan gay guy, with two adopted chihuahuas. The grandson of rancher and a contractor, the son of two journalists, Andrew Sotomayor is one of the “artsy” kids in his family. His earliest creative memories involve his childhood hands regularly stained by Crayola markers. The frequent lipstick swatches of today were inevitable.

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From Huffington Post: This past weekend, a man was stopped on his way to the Los Angeles Pride event with a car full of assault rifles and ingredients to make pipe bombs. Thankfully, he was caught, but on Saturday night in Orlando, there was the largest mass murder of ‪LGBT people, their friends, and family. It is the largest mass shooting in U.S. history. Two friends of my best friend who grew up in Florida were killed. Grieving, sadness and vigils are appropriate and necessary as we join together to begin healing, and we cope with a horrific reminder that while this month marks the one year anniversary of marriage equality in America, we have not yet achieved complete legal equality or freedom from discrimination and hate. If we want to honor the 49 people who were killed and the dozens more who were injured, we need to remember that those are only the first steps.

The gunman was an American citizen who had been identified by the FBI as a known ISIL sympathizer, and according to his father had become enraged a few months ago when he saw gay people kissing in public. He beat his wife before they divorced. He had been reported to his boss as unstable. None of these things prevented him from being able to buy an assault rifle that shoots off forty five rounds a minute. While the person who pulled the trigger is dead, the people who made this possible are still alive. Horrific tragedies like this flourish after being nurtured in an environment where hatred is perpetuated in subtler ways on a daily basis.

Everyone who’s ever gone on FOX News and said gay people dont deserve equal rights contributed to this murder. Every politician who voted for military intervention that contributed to the destabilization of a country that lead to the creation of more religious extremists abroad and strengthening of ISIL contributed to this murder. Every politician, or TV contributor who included all the 1.6 billion muslims in the world while calling out very distinct, small hateful group of people who’ve committed atrocities simply because it was easier to scapegoat than to tell the full story, contributed to this murder. Every politician who’s taken money from the NRA and later voted against gun control laws contributed to this murder. Every card carrying member of the NRA, whether they are shooting animals for sport or for food contributed to this murder, because even if you would never condone or commit such violence, by continuing to be a member of this organization that essentially legally bribes politicians and obstructs reasonable measures of gun safety, you’re contributing to the problem.

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Every preacher, pastor, or priest who’s falsely claimed that LGBT people are “sinners”, “perverts”, or told someone to “pray the gay away” contributed to this murder. Everyone who’s ever heard the leader of their church say that gay people are going to Hell and didn’t speak out against their preacher contributed to this murder. Every pastor who went overseas to countries like Uganda and convinced people that gay people were “pedophiles” contributed to the murders in Orlando and the countless ones internationally. Everyone who watches ‪Pat Robertson, Bill O’Reilly, FOX and Friends (or supports them with ad dollars) or bought books by ‪Anne Coulter or Laura Schlessinger book contributed to this murder. Every school administrator who turned gay teen couples away at their prom, or made a trans student dress a certain way, or didn’t fairly punish a student for bullying an LGBT kid, contributed to this murder. Every “therapist” who pushed “gay conversion ‘therapy’” on a client contributed to this murder. Everyone who voted for a ‪Republican candidate that supported Tennessee’s “Don’t Say Gay” law contributed to this murder. Every baker or florist who refused to sell their goods for a gay wedding contributed to this murder.

Every American President or presidential candidate who ever said that “marriage is between a man and a woman”, or supported “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, or supported The Defense Of Marriage Act contributed to this murder. Donald Trump is a hate filled atrocity and his candidacy is the result of eight years of the Republican party saying that the LGBT community and the muslim community are “less than”. ‪We must never let him take office, but in efforts to defeat his candidacy, we cannot allow ourselves to believe that Hillary Clinton or any other politician has been perfect. She failed the gay community on all three of the examples above. We need to demand that she do better as a leader, and make sure that she follows through.

I do not believe I have politicized this tragedy in any sort of negative way. It was politicized when Marco Rubio said this could have happened anywhere, but that it was “Orlando’s turn”. It was politicized when the Republican party on Twitter (@GOP) failed to make any mention of the murders in Orlando whatsoever. They did, however acknowledge George H. Bush’s birthday, who (it’s worth mentioning) said in the 90s that he believed no one needed an assault rifle. Ronald Reagan said the same thing too. In spite of this, when asked what Americans could do to help prevent this from happening again, Florida Governor Rick Scott would only tell reporters that they should pray.

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I do not believe any of this is an overstatement. Ugliness and hatred grow and get out of control. EVERY DAY, we have opportunities in small and big moments to MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN, or allow goodness to decompose. We cannot just say how tragic this is. We need to demand change from our government, and we need to change ourselves. Demanding our government work better is the most patriotic thing we can do.

Read the whole diatribe here.

h/t Newsbusters

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