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Charlotte vet says he was fired for lowering flag on Memorial Day

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From Stars and Stripes: When Charlotte (NC) veteran Allen Thornwell lowered his employer’s American flag to half-staff on Memorial Day, he says he did not think to ask permission or consider the possibility that he had done anything wrong.
Instead, the 29-year-old former Marine, who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, says he was thinking about his country, the meaning of the holiday, and his best friend, Geoff, another Marine who had killed himself two years ago after returning stateside.
On Tuesday, Thornwell was fired. A manager at the placement service that arranged the vet’s job at Time Warner Cable in Charlotte told him that the company was disturbed by Thornwell’s “passion for the flag and (his) political affiliation.”
Contacted this week, Thornwell said he remains in shock over what happened. “I’m not even mad right now,” he says. “ I don’t know what kind of moral compass you need to fire a veteran on Memorial Day for lowering the flag.”
A Time Warner Cable spokesman confirmed Friday that the former Marine “was no longer under contract” with the company but declined further comment. Thornwell said he landed the job through Principal Solutions Group, a technology-based employment service. Contacted Friday, Thornwell’s placement manager, Nicki Warren, said she was not allowed to discuss personnel matters.
Charlotte attorney Murph Archibald, whom Thornwell called after the incident, says his client should have never lost his job. “It’s disgraceful,” says Archibald, a Vietnam vet. “He didn’t do anything wrong. He’s a veteran working on Memorial Day who corrected what he thought was a disrespectful flying of the American flag … I would have taken it down myself.
Whether Time Warner was improperly displaying the flag during the country’s annual tribute to its dead veterans is a matter of debate. The U.S. Flag Code, which offers guidance on how to fly the flag during holidays, says the banner should be at half-staff until noon on Memorial Day then returned to its normal position. Thornwell said the incident took place around 2:30 p.m.
Thornwell, who was discharged in 2014, said he was aware of the holiday protocol but was moved to lower the flag anyway. He wishes now that he had asked permission. “I didn’t think of it as the property of Time Warner Cable,” he says. “It’s everybody’s flag.”

Allen Thornwell/Photo from NewsFlow24

Allen Thornwell/Photo from NewsFlow24


An angry reaction
Thornwell began Marine boot camp less than week after he graduated from Phillip O. Berry in 2005. His mother, Teresa Magaña of Charlotte, describes her son as a quiet and calm man who is passionate about the military, his country and the “rights of people.” After his tour in Afghanistan in 2008-09, she says she noticed that he began to show a greater need for order and for having things done the right way.
Thornwell was a month into a six-month contract with Time Warner when he says he got a call from work on the morning of Memorial Day, asking him to work a 2 to 7 p.m. shift. Thornwell specialized in technical support and served as a radio operator in the military. At Time Warner, he amounted to a trouble-shooter, keeping watch for service outages, then quickly assembling a team to respond and fix the problems.
On Monday he arrived at the company’s service center off Arrowood Road having left his security badge at home. A boss sent him to pick up a replacement. Waiting outside the security office, he noticed the nearby flag at full staff. Without a word to anyone, Thornwell says he marched, Marine-style, to the pole, lowered the flag to a midway point, came to full attention, then about-faced and walked away. He didn’t salute. He says Marines don’t salute when out of uniform.
Inside the security building, Thornwell said he was told by one of the guards that “It’s company policy that no one touches the flagpole.” By the time Thornwell left – and only a few minutes after he had lowered it – the flag was back at full staff.
Thornwell said he reacted angrily at what he took as a sign of disrespect to him and other vets. He can be heard cursing twice in a short video he shot at the scene with his phone. He said he wanted to send a message to military personnel around the world that “this is what the people back home think about us.” The former Marine says he was never disrespectful or out of control. In fact, he said the security guard escorting him back to his work station told him, “I fought. I understand.”
That night on Facebook, Thornwell posted the photos he took of the flag at full- and half-staff, and brief video of himself talking to the camera as he walked back to his job site. He stamped the footage “Timewarner.” He put this title on the post: “So many years wasted. I’m telling you … PEOPLE DON’T GIVE A F***.”
The next day before work, he says he got a call from Warren: “Can you tell me what happened yesterday?” Time Warner, she told him, had canceled his contract.
Failure to communicate
Did the company over-react? Did Thornwell? Who can say for sure.
Retired Marine colonel Chris Woodbridge, though, calls the incident “a very sad misunderstanding” that illustrates a widening gap between the country and its military.
Today, less than 1 percent of Americans wear a uniform. “Not only do the vast majority not serve, but they don’t really know anybody who does,” says Woodbridge, editor of the monthly Marine Corps Gazette. Thus, their perception of the men and women in uniform gravitates to stereotypical extremes: from hyper-patriotic coverage that focuses on honor and courage to more critical depictions of loner vets who are shell-shocked and violent, he says.
On the other hand, he says, veterans can experience a strong sense of alienation when they return to something “they don’t recognize and they don’t understand. Sometimes symbols, like the flag, mean a lot. Because they represent something of an ideal…(an) ideal we fought for.”
Thornwell strongly disputes the notion that he fits the stereotype of the displaced and brooding vet. He does acknowledge that he is still dealing with post-traumatic stress and other emotional problems left from his service, but he says his actions at the flagpole were never excessive.
In fact, Thornwell attributes his behavior to a deeper emotions he felt throughout the day about his country, his dead friend, and his own service. For the first time in his life, he says, he understood the true meaning of Memorial Day, and he felt it, too.
Now he needs a job. First, he would like an apology – for him and other vets.
DCG

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Why can’t the U.S. remember our fallen this way?

Today is Memorial Day, the one day out of 365 when Americans remember the countless soldiers who died in wars, whom politicians, sitting in the comfort of the Oval Office and the Senate, had sent to battle fields across the world.

Most Americans will “celebrate” this national “holiday” by shopping in Memorial Day sales, or by driving to the beach or a national park, or have a barbecue in their back yard.

Such fun! [Snark]

This is how Israel remember their fallen.

Yom Hazikaron is Israel’s official Memorial Day, enacted into law in 1963.

The day opens with a siren the preceding evening at 20:00 hour (8:00 pm), given that in the Hebrew calendar system, a day begins at sunset.

The siren is heard all over the country and lasts for one minute, during which Israelis stop everything (including cars on highways) and stand in silence, commemorating and showing their respect for the fallen. Many religious Jews say prayers for the souls of the fallen soldiers at this time.

The following morning at 11 am, a two-minute siren is sounded, which marks the opening of the official memorial ceremonies and private remembrance gatherings at each cemetery where soldiers are buried. One of the government-owned television stations screens the names of all the fallen in chronological order (rank, name, date-of-death) over the course of the day. Each name appears for about three seconds.

But Americans will “celebrate” Memorial Day today by shopping, Amerika’s secular religion.

Thank you, to all who sacrificed their very lives for America.

This country doesn’t deserve patriots like you.

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Memorial Day – a salute to our fallen heroes

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Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation’s service. There are many stories as to its actual beginnings, with over two dozen cities and towns laying claim to being the birthplace of Memorial Day. It is not important who was the very first, what is important is that Memorial Day was established. Memorial Day is not about division. It is about reconciliation; it is about coming together to honor those who gave their all.

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill

Freedom is never free. We honor all that gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms. May they rest in peace.

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Some Of Skippy’s Greatest Statements .

  1. “Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”

  2. “I’ve now been in 57 states I think I have one left to go.”

  3. “On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes, and I see many of them in the audience here today.”

  4. “What they’ll say is, ‘Well it costs too much money,’ but you know what? It would cost, about. It it it would cost about the same as what we would spend. It. Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us. (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We’re going to. It. It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about hold on one second. I can’t hear myself. But I’m glad you’re fired up, though. I’m glad.”

  5. “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”

  6. “I bowled a 129. It’s like – it was like the Special Olympics, or something.”

  7. “Of the many responsibilities granted to a president by our Constitution, few are more serious or more consequential than selecting a Supreme Court justice. The members of our highest court are granted life tenure, often serving long after the presidents who appointed them. And they are charged with the vital task of applying principles put to paper more than 20 centuries ago to some of the most difficult questions of our time.”

  8. “Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer. I haven’t had much sleep in the last 48 hours.”

  9. “It was interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There’s a lot of I don’t know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing.”

  10. “I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future.”

~Steve~             H/T  igor  and Rense.com

 

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Dear Dad…

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One last tribute to Memorial Day and our heroes.  “Somethings are worth fighting for.” May God watch over our fallen heroes and their families.
DCG

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Are you surprised?

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Obama Goes Golfing on Memorial Day

After laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and meeting with US Military families, President Obama headed to the golf course. This is his 12th golf outing this year and the 70th time during his presidency.
The decision to golf on Memorial Day invites comparison with President George W. Bush, who gave up the game early in his presidency and said he did it out of respect for the families of those killed in Iraq.
Any wonder why US military personnel and veterans give Obama low marks?
DCG

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Tahoma National Cemetery


My father and uncle are buried at Tahoma National Cemetery.  Last time I was there I snapped this photo of the Gettysburg Address and a local version of Rolling Thunder came roaring in.  I always get choked up when I see them.
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We Remember You.. Thank You For your Service



It is the
VETERAN,
Not the preacher,
Who has given us freedom of religion.
It is
The VETERAN,
Not the reporter,
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is
The VETERAN,
Not the blogger,
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is
The VETERAN,
Not the community organizer,
Who has given us freedom to assemble.
It is
The VETERAN,
Not the lawyer,
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is
The VETERAN,
Not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.
On this day, Memorial Day, May 30, 2011, all of us at Fellowship of the Minds remember you, who now see God face to face.
Please intercede for us and ask God for His mercy on America.

Happy Memorial Day To Everyone.
From all off us at FOTM.

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Obama: "I See Dead People"

Today, Americans celebrate Veterans Day.
I heard Sean Hannity on the radio asking a young male caller if he knew the difference between Veterans Day and Memorial Day. The caller hemmed and hawed and obviously did not know.
Another fine product of America’s public school system!
But we really shouldn’t be so hard on that caller. None other than the Harvard Law graduate, constitutional law expert, and “smartest man in the world” said this at a Memorial Day ceremony in La Cruces, NM, on May 26, 2008:

“On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes, I see many of them in the audience here today….”

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We have a friggin’ moron in the White House.
~Eowyn

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