Should Pastor Burn the Koran?

A pastor of a small 50-member Christian church in Gainesville, FL, the Dove World Outreach Center, has achieved national and international attention because of his plan to burn copies of the Muslim Koran this Saturday, the 9th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America in which more than 3,000 people were killed.
Pastor Terry Jones believes “Islam is of the Devil.” And indeed, for Christians, there is only one God and Jesus Christ is the second person of the Divine Trinity, which makes all other “gods” idols and, therefore, of the Devil. In other words, Pastor Jones’ “failing” is that he actually takes seriously his theology and, by calling false gods what they are, has committed the contemporary sin of being politically incorrect.
For that, he is criticized, condemned, attacked, and vilified by his own country’s government officials (Secretary of State Hillary Clinton), military (General Petraeus), fellow Christian and other religious clergy, the new Black Panthers (whose leaders have called for the killing of white babies), and by Muslim mobs in Afghanistan and elsewhere who have burned the pastor’s image in effigy. Jones has even received death threats.

Many of his critics only recently had spoken out with righteous indignation in support of the construction of the Ground Zero mosque, in the name of our Constitution’s sacrosanct First Amendment right of freedom of religion.
At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in Gainesville have mobilized to plan counter-events this Saturday. Some will read from the Koran at their own weekend services. A student group is organizing a protest across the street from Pastor Jones’ church.
But as Adam Kirk of WOKV.com wryly observed on September 8, 2010: 

But just last year, when the pastor of a 14 member church in Canton, N.C. promised to burn all translations of the Christian Bible it considered evil, only a handful of reporters showed up…. And as far as we can tell, the top General in the war on terror, the Secretary of State, and the President never weighed in. The church backed down in the end, after threats of fines for violating local statutes, but their ultimate ceremony was even ignored by the local paper that covered their area.
[…] This morning on NBC’s “The Today Show” senior political advisor to President Obama David Axelrod said when asked whether the Gainesville church has a right to burn a Koran, “it’s not a matter of whether they have the right, it’s a matter of whether it’s right.”
Burning a Koran is considered by Muslims among the most offensive actions taken against Islam. In 2005, 15 people died and scores were wounded in riots in Afghanistan sparked by a story in Newsweek magazine alleging that interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay detention center placed copies of the Koran in washrooms and flushed one down the toilet to get inmates to talk. Newsweek later retracted the story. Just this week a group of 500 protesters chanted “Long live Islam” and “Death to America” a world away in the streets of Kabul, Afghanistan.
In a blog on the website of the Dove World Outreach Center, writer Fran Ingram offered the groups’ reasoning for burning the Koran, arguing that it is not God’s word and denies Jesus is the son of God, that Islam is totalitarian and that the religion teaches idolatry, paganism, rites and rituals.
Jones said he now carries a .40-caliber pistol on his hip, because of the level of response and death threats his church is taking seriously. He also said he’s praying about his decision to go forward with the burning, and that he could change his mind if he gets a sign from God.

So, do you think Pastor Jones should burn the Koran?
~Eowyn

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  1. My choice wasn’t there, so here it is: Christ admonished to turn the other cheek and love your enemies; love those that spitefully use you. Somehow, burning something of value to someone else doesn’t seem very loving. Should I be a doormat? No. We are instructed to show forth greater love. “Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.” Do you believe that? Really? This action is so Law of Moses. “You burned my Bible, so I’m going to burn your Koran.” Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses. It’s finished. No more eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Do you BELIEVE Christ or don’t you? Are you going to LIVE your faith or aren’t you?

     
    • I respect your right to feel this way. However, doing nothing because we “don’t want to offend” creates again another hostage situation; America being held hostage to THEIR demands. Another double standard of ‘they can but we can’t’. We sit still, allow Sharia law to creep in little by little and then what? Islam’s goal is world domination and I for one don’t want to live in a Muslim world and have to worship Christ underground even though I would worship him anywhere. I will consider your point which is a valid one. However, sooner or later Americans have to do something even if it is radical and defiant. After all, it is our right……right? Or would you prefer to be stoned someday for speaking out?

       
      • So you’re okay with Bibles being burned? You can’t have it both ways. And I didn’t recommend do nothing. Far from it. The question is: “Are you going to LIVE your faith or aren’t you?” That is hardly passive.
        Worrying about who’s offending whom is an unsolvable problem because there will always be someone who is offended, if for no other reason than because they can. But it’s difficult to argue with someone who refuses to argue. Is there a place for war? Unfortunately, yes, a last resort. Are we truly there already?
        Radical? Defiant? Pot/kettle. They say they are burning it because it is of the devil. Are they also going to burn all forms of pornography? What about the healthcare bill? What about the book about how to molest children that recently was declared legal? What about Harry Potter? Plenty of people declare that’s of the devil.
        Instead of burning the Koran, what about a day of cleaning up the community? What about a day of sending care package to our troops? What about a day of helping at a homeless shelter, or a battered women’s center or a child crisis center?
        Viktor Frankl (Man’s Search For Meaning) was a concentration camp survivor and his perceptions hold true. “The last of one’s freedoms is to choose one’s attitude in any given circumstance.” “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”
        We The People got ourselves into this mess, largely by inaction. We The People will have to get ourselves out, but the only way there is any chance of accomplishing that is if we take responsibility for our own actions. And mirroring the problem won’t help. We have to change. And I don’t mean be more politically correct. That’s why we’re in this mess now. We allowed this to happen by saying nothing, doing nothing, and even buying into the idea of “getting along” for far too long. Now, we’re unhappy with where it’s lead us. And I accept that I was more than willing to let things slide for the sake of “peace.” What a horrible price to pay. But fighting their way isn’t the answer. They’re better at it because they’ve had a lot more practice. Unless the desire is to sink to lower ground and wallow in the mud.
        I mean stand for our beliefs. I mean be a better person. I mean become involved in the community. I mean practice true Christianity. True change comes from within, not from without. Choose. God is going to win in the end, no matter what.
        Hollowpoint, you asked would I prefer to be stoned for speaking out? Who would prefer to be stoned? Stoning isn’t always with rocks. I hope if it ever came to that I would find within myself the courage to stand, no matter what.

         
    • Wonderful.
      As Ghandhi once said “An eye for an eye leaves us all blind”.

       
      • “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” –Sura 9:5

         
        • Not only that, but… “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” –Sura 9:29
          Doesn’t seem all that friendly or tolerant. I’m not sure Ghandhi would approve.

           
  2. Afghanastan is a country full of pedophiles. Men who “love” boys. Women are for reproduction and boys are for pleasure. They claim they are not homosexual because the “are not in love with the boys”. Oh, I get it now! My point is, we are so worried about offending these kind of people but who cares how many children are raped at the hands of such wonderful people?! This practice is widespread in the strict Muslim countries where the women are required to wear the full covering. Personally, pedophilia offends me and I believe it disgusts most good Americans. So, what do I care if burning their stupid “how to rape children” guide book is burned? I don’t! Burn baby burn!

     
    • Sodomy is outlawed in Islam and in some Islamic society it is punishable by death. Any Muslim or an Islamic society that indulges in such is NOT following the tenets of Islam and hence can not be called Islamic or used as a representative of a whole people. This would be akin to slander the whole of Christianity on the actions of a few wayward priests. Afghan society does not even make a fraction of 1% of Muslims and hence using this society as representative of all Muslims is simply wrong. A society that is zonked on hash and opium. By the way burning ANY religious book in an Islamic society is considered an act of sacrilege and it carries a heavy penalty.

       
  3. They must be following the TALMUD:
    Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
    Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
    Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).
    Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
    Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”

     
    • …and you are embracing which Talmud? The Jeruselum or Babylonian? The Talmud is cryptic and difficult to interpret and a text of terms must be used to even decipher the correct meaning. It includes many Persian and Greek words. Rabbinic tradition holds that the people cited in both Talmuds did not even have any part of writing it. It has been “smoothed over” as time has gone by, between 500CE and 700CE. To my knowledge Jewish men do not practice “boy love” as is done in Muslim culture.
      Therefore, I am not sure of your point but at least you are educated and knowledgeable. I still want the Quran burned. I may be really wrong about it but this is how I feel. Thank you for responding.

       
      • Go forth and read only the introduction of the following book and you will see for yourself that homosexual behaviour was/is a prevalent Jewish thing.
        Peter Cole – The Dream of the Poem: Hebrew Poetry from Muslim and Christian
        Spain, 950-1492
        Princeton University Press | ISBN: 069112194X | 2007-01-02
        Just a passage from the book:
        “And what is he to make of the phenomenon itself—intensely sensuous and often homoerotic poems being written by learned and pious Jews? Furthermore, the medieval poets themselves apologize, in places, for the “obscenity” of their work, and some seek to explain it away as allegory or exercise (a keeping up with the literary Joneses).

         
    • There is no way on earth to compare the Koran with the filthy demonic Talmud. The Koran speaks with veneration of Jesus and his family. There is even a whole chapter devoted to his mother. And Jesus by the way is mentioned more in it than prophet Muhammad. The Koran in essence is essentially the same as the Bible the only difference is that the Bible has undergone many revisions while it has stayed the same.

       
  4. Burn Koran, BAD. Burn NEW Testament, GOOD:
    Last update – 18:04 20/05/2008
    Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda
    By The Associated Press
    Orthodox Jews set fire to hundreds of copies of the New Testament in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in the Holy Land.
    Or Yehuda Deputy Mayor Uzi Aharon said missionaries recently entered a
    neighborhood in the predominantly religious town of 34,000 in central Israel, distributing hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material.
    After receiving complaints, Aharon said, he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and drove through the neighborhood, urging people to turn over the material to Jewish religious students who went door to door to collect it.
    “The books were dumped into a pile and set afire in a lot near a synagogue,” he said.
    The newspaper Maariv reported Tuesday that hundreds of yeshiva students took part in the book-burning. But Aharon told The Associated Press that only a few students were present, and that he was not there when the books were torched.
    “Not all of the New Testaments that were collected were burned, but hundreds were,” he said.
    He said he regretted the burning of the books, but called it a commandment to burn materials that urge Jews to convert.
    “I certainly don’t denounce the burning of the booklets, he said. I denounce those who distributed the booklets.”
    Jews worship from the Old Testament, including the Five Books of Moses (the TORAH) and the writings of the ancient prophets. Christians revere the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, which contains the ministry of Jesus.

     
  5. Not without having a huge pig roast afterwards!

     
  6. actually i think the koran was actually first used as an implement to wipe ones buttocks after defecation… tear the pages out and put them in outhouses acrosss the nation..

     
  7. i was just thinking this tiny white christian church has gained notoriety by saying not doing but saying they wanted to burn the koran and people who couldnt find florida on a map are outraged. people like billary clinton, angelina jolie etc celebrities and i wonder where was there outrage over beat whitey night at the iowa state fair?????? you can beat white people, discriminate and kill white people its all good…. but heavens to betsy dont you touch our koran..

     
    • I’m with you. I am just really sick of the double standard! And if someone doesn’t stand up to stop it then it will go on forever and America will become just another conquest. That is what they want isn’t it? And we will become “Londonistan” as the author Phillips covers in her book. It is just like the illegal alien thing. Let them burn the flag, walk on it, kill Americans, steal, maim, etc. , but lets still be oh so nice to them. Wouldn’t want to hurt feelings ya know. After all, they are “good people”. Spare me!!!

       
      • If muslims have a right to build the triumphal mosque near the 9/11 site, then this minister has the right to burn the koran on 9/11. Enough said. Muslims want one, they have to take the other. They can’t build a mosque to intimidate the infidels then scream and riot when the infidels burn the koran in response.

         
  8. “It is saddening to see humanity at this great time of peril, confronted with intractable issues such as the freak weather conditions everywhere, the new types of diseases that hint of being man-made, the looming hunger on the horizon and reported dwindling food supplies, the ever increasing oil spill accidents as if fulfilling an agenda, the joblessness homelessness and aimlessness of whole societies, the collapsing financial institutions defrauding even while on its death-bed, the collapsing trust on all forms of authority and law, the collapsing ecosphere and the demise of nature right in front of our eyes and the ever enchroaching poverty everywhere followed by an associate fall in spiritual insights, as most venomous comments in this here column can prove, hence such a humanity to be totally blind to all these pressing issues that truly need ready answers immediately from all of us, if we are to survive, and that instead of wreaking our brains for combined solutions we allow our attentions to be hijacked and diverted into emotional issues, issues that will actually and eventually deliver us all into even worse predicaments.
    “How truly low have we fallen as a species.
    “Whichever God we believe in then it must be a very disappointed God indeed.”

     
  9. I haven’t read all the comments but my view is NO. why would we do that? Not all muslims are terrorists and not all christians are terrorists. How would we like them burning the Bible or Torah? Time to build bridges not burn them.

     
    • Time to build bridges…that’s what the Imam said about the Ground Zero Mosque yet doesn’t stop them from making their “religious” point and offending thousands of Americans. Is it within their right to 1) build the Ground Zero Mosque or 2) burn the Koran? Yes. But that doesn’t make it right…

       
  10. I see alot of the usual news whore’s, abc, cbs, nbc are talking about this and condeming the Rev. for his dicision to burn the koran but I don’t recall a news cast of any size when these barbarians stone to death women, or behead Christians, or American news people such as Daniel Pearl. To own a Holy Bible is a death sentence in any of the places that are so concerned with the burning of a koran. Go figure.
    Posted by Charlie on September 8th 2010, 8:25pm

     
    • Listen, we’re talking about burning the Koran, not the human rights abuses etc… that goes on. Burning the Koran as an assault on all muslims and not the radicals who commit acts of terrorism or human rights abuses. timothy mcveigh bombed the murrah federal building should we now burn bibles because he was a christian? No, he was an asshole, he doesn’t speak nor represent all american christians. We should be burning assholes, not books.

       
  11. Don’t forget, there’s nothing more insulting than building a victory mosque near the world trade center. Islam’s only objective is to conquer all territory by attrition. If you don’t stand up to them now, they will eventually own you.

     
  12. I really don’t get this whole Qur’an bonfire thingy, as I see it as being rather pointless, and this Pastor Jones guy strikes me as a bit of a fringe-kook type, anyway.
    But, if they are going to do it, why not do it right and build a big BBQ pit, toss the Qur’ans into it, douse them with bacon grease, light it all off with a flare, then put the cooking grate in place and grill up some nice, thick center-cut, bone-in pork chops.
    I mean, why waste a perfectly good fire?
    And I have a really great Hotter than Hell BBQ sauce recipe I could send them that would be just perfect for those succulent chops. 🙂
    -Dave

     
  13. Kalif,
    Stop spewing your bullshit Islamic propaganda here.
    Islam is not a religion, but is instead a violent, 7th Century tyrannical political movement, one of the biggest (not to mention oldest) lies from which is that there is such a thing as “moderate” and “radical” Islam.
    Bullshit. There is neither.
    There is only Islam, and the fact that these so-called “moderate” Islamists aren’t out raising Hell over camel-washers strapping bombs on to young children, or protesting the torture and disfigurement of young women, proves this for all to see.
    Muhammed was no prophet, but insrtead a lying, murderous child molester that came up with a tyrannical idea, attached the theme of “religion” to it to attract the cave-dwelling illiterates, and went on his way.
    BTW, I’ve read the Qur’an, which means I know far more about Islam than most of its illiterate, cave-man adherents.
    -Dave

     
    • Straight up Dave, tell it like it is. You may be banned (again, but hopefully not here!) yet I concur w/you and your statements. The radicals wanted to change our way of life on 9/11. They will prevail if we don’t allow “freedom of religion”. A mosque must be tolerated yet burning of a Koran is unacceptable. The radicals win…

       
      • “You may be banned (again, but hopefully not here!)”
        Dave has NEVER been banned on the Fellowship. Commenters get banned if they violate this blog’s stated policy on obscene, vulgar, blasphemous, and violent comments. Trolls also get banned for insulting their host — this blog. Please read the “About” page.
        This blog owes no one the right to publish their comments. Nor are we responsible for paranoics who wrongly accuse us of banning them when it’s their own incompetence with log-in. I am referring to the erstwhile poster named Ron, who was never banned and remains unbanned.
        As for Dave’s conjecture about being “irritating” because he’s not “polished” and does not have a Ph.D., that’s curious. Just refrain from overt threats of VIOLENCE, Dave. That is one of this blog’s stated policy and it has nothing to do with having a Ph.D. 🙂

         
        • I was just kidding him Eowyn…referring to his Hotair ban lol…

           
          • I knew you were kidding, Debbie. 😉
            But I’ve learned from very unpleasant experience that folks can get really really touchy about their comments disappearing, being deleted or banned. It’s like their words are divine and must remain carved in stone. Sigh….

             
    • Dave I respect your opinion however wrong it may be.
      Unlike you I haven’t read the Koran and maybe never will, but I was born a Muslim and live in an Islamic society.
      If as DCG and others claim that Islam is about changing others’ ways of life then that is pure bullshit.
      You see I am married to a Christian and we have 3 lovely children, and so are 3 members of my family too married to Christians.
      If at all Islam were about changing others’ ways of life then I should have long ago converted my wife to Islam. Yet in all her
      official papers she is registered as a Christian in an Islamic society.
      But as I see it changing one’s way of life is also a Christian thing. Why else would others dictate for instance the right of other
      people who feel it only right to wear a headcover in order to protect one’s modesty and to discourage men from approaching?
      Why is this targeting only Muslims but not for example convent nuns? This is practised even in the middle east where headscarfs are not allowed in universities. Monkey see monkey do.
      The problem is we are living in an age of bigotry and intolerance and are not wise enough to see it. This is not only between
      Christianity versus Islam. In nothern Ireland it is simmering below the surface among Christians themselves. If it were not about
      religions most people today can find various reasons to disagree and argue or fight but using religion is easy and handy to cause a provocation.
      My personal stance on the issue of the mosque is simple. If as stated by the person who wants to build it on that location is for it
      to serve as a ‘bridge’ between faiths, and as I believe that any action that causes dis-harmony between people should be
      reviewed.
      Since this idea has caused the exact opposite of its intended aims, even before the actual construction has taken place then I believe it is only proper for this idea to be dropped. Such an action may build the intended ‘bridges’.
      Your opinion whether Islam is a religion or a cult almost brought a smile on my face but I will not comment on it.
      With regards to 9/11 just think a little bit. Illiterate cavemen being able to pull off such a dastardly stunt? Buildings collapsing
      without being hit ? Steel melting from kerosene? Pulverised and fused concrete as if a superweapon was used? And in haste all the incriminating evidence being hauled off and sold elsewhere without a proper investigation?
      Maybe you may understand this the day you grow up.

       
    • Dave, you’re educated & up-to-date with today’s problems. If we don’t face these problems (islamists), our children will have a greater ignorance to deal with. Burn ’em now, and let the fire burn long and bright for all to see !!

       
  14. I don’t have a problem at all with this private citizen burning the Koran. Perhaps he and his congregation should have just gone about it quietly, but their goal was to make a statement…so here we are.
    I think he might be doing us a favor. The response from the Left and from those in the highest positions of Government – the selective outrage – is insightful. The message is clear: do not make the Muslim world angry. If nothing else, the barbaric response of the Muslim world will once again be on display, along with those whose mission is to sympathize and appease.
    I just finished watching Soledad Obrien’s interview with the Imam behind the Ground Zero Mosque and I am even more pissed. His argument is that this is now (the Mosque) a matter of national security…to not build it will incite the Muslim world. Should we deliberately incite them or others? No. What should be clear by now is that nothing we do short of bowing and converting to Allah and his “prophet” will pacify these people. Stop throwing America and Americans under the bus under some perverted idea of Tolerance which is only applied in one direction.
    I am a firm believer that there is no such thing as “moderate Islam.” They can preach to us about peace and tolerance when it’s visible in their own countries. Until then, let’s not allow them to use our freedom and good-will against us.

     
  15. Anyone who doesn’t believe that the Christian extreme right wing of the Republican Party isn’t fascist, better think again! “When books are burned in the end people will be burned too.” Heinrich Heine German critic & poet (1797 – 1856). Remember that the Nazi’s burned books in the 1930’s, and went on to burn people as well.
    Books are meant to be read, even if you don’t agree with the contents. If the Christian fascists think that the Islamic fascists are their enemy, then they should read the Koran to better understand their enemy. Instead, they decide to burn it! If the Islamic community over-reacts to this, they will be playing right into the hands of the Christian right wing, and making a case in their favor.
    A more moderate approach might be to burn a hundred Bibles. Why not? Like Islamic extremists using the Koran to justify mistreatment of women, the Christian right take extreme quotes from the Bible (especially the Old Testament), and use them to justify persecuting gays, bomb abortion clinics, and burn crosses.
    These fundamentalist evangelical born-again Christians with guns believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible, ignoring carbon 14 dating and the fossil record. Many believe that the Earth is only about 6000 years old since it was created by God. The fact is that man has been here only a fraction of time compared with the dinosaurs, which existed for millennia in comparison. What did God do during this time while the T-Rex was eating other dinosaurs and making babies? He must have enjoyed the show to have let it last so long.
    It is obvious that these extremist Christians are selective about what they take out of the Bible to justify their actions, ignoring the teachings of Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount. They protest the building of an Islamic center near ground zero, even though 911 was never thoroughly investigated to begin with. The 911 Commission was controlled from the White House, and completely ignored the collapse of Building 7, as well as the money trail to Pakistan’s ISI.

     
    • Roland, I don’t think I’ve agreed more with any other posting on this web site. Well said and well written. How did building 7 come down anyways…..oh yeah, silverstein said they “pulled it”. The Pakistani ISI… the same ones who were at the white house just prior to 9/11……it’s hard to tell whether they are supposed to be the White houses’ enemy or ally, Bin Laden was an ally too at some point wasn’t he? Didn’t Oswald work for the CIA? Hard to tell who’s on who’s side nowadays.

       
  16. DCG,
    LOL. Eowyn really likes me, but what irritates her at times is that I am not quite as “polished” as she is – being that I have no Ph.D hanging about.
    But I love her just the same. 🙂
    The reaction to this will be not a little interesting:
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2010/09/09/quran-burning-threat-leads-network-news-discover-wisdom-palin-and-pope#comment-1332662
    I am far beyond tired of playing games with these hideous, 7th Century illiterate barbarians.
    -Dave

     
  17. Roland, where were you when the camel-scrubbers were burning up Bibles and burning down churches in droves?
    And did you miss the untold millions of innocent non-Muslims these illiterate barbarians managed to kill in the last 1400 years?
    If Christians were the fascists you claim them to be (and I doubt your gevernment-schooled ignorant ass even knows what a fascist even is) you would have been dead a long time ago.
    Go crawl back into the basement of whatever government school you attended, as you are of insufficient intelligence to be posting here.
    -Dave

     
  18. whenever muslims have moved into christian held territories either peacefully or through invasion the christian ends up converted or dead..
    i mean how many quick eee marts do we need anyway. and as far as masss slaughter remember what the muslims in turkey did to the chrisitan orthodox armenians after ww1 somewhere around 2 million killed . 2 million christians killed by muslims…. burn the koran

     
    • Igor please go back and study the relevant history and you will ALWAYS find that the architect of evil is ALWAYS a MARTIAN.

       
      • Kalif,
        You must have read our “About” page!!! LOL
        It makes as much sense to blame all the world’s evil on Jews or Muslims or Christians or whites or blacks or what-have-you, as to blame it on MARTIANS. LOL
        Well done! 😀

         
  19. It’s all a moot point now, the pastor has backed down, there will be no books burning september 11.

     
  20. I am jewish and i think that this JUST LIKE WHAT NAZIS DID. How you would you like it if a Muslim burned our Bible and called it the religion of the devil. This is not what your Jesus would have wanted.

     
  21. Hello Eowyn this is for you !!!!
    Desiderata
    Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit.
    If you compare yourself to others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
    Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
    Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the the world is full of trickery. But let not this blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.
    Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
    Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
    Therefore, be at peace with God, whatever you conceive him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham drudgery and broken dreams; it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
    — Max Ehrmann

     
    • Those are wise and beautiful words, Kalif. Thank you!
      The only change i’d make is: “Be Joyful” (instead of cheerful). Joy comes from a soul at peace with God.
      Much joy to you, Kalif! 🙂

       
  22. – Max Ehrmann may not be the real author as people like to plagiarize other’s works.

     
  23. Kalif,
    All you have done is convince me that you are not a true believing Muslim.
    Care to know what the true-believing Islamists consider you to be?
    I hope you don’t have to find out the hard way.
    Funny you mention me not having grown up, as the five children of two business associates of mine who died in the WTC on 9/11 are now aproaching their 10th year of life without their respective fathers.
    One of them has tried to commit suicide.
    Twice.
    As lond as I live, I will never, ever forget the pictures and videos I saw of millions of Muslims the world over dancing in the streets in celebration of 9/11.
    -Dave

     

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