Seattle-King County Public Health want doctors to be more inquisitive into patient firearm access/ownership

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On Tuesday, Seattle-King County Public Health published a statement with their intent to decrease gun violence. The blog was posted by Dr. Jeff Duchin, Health Officer for Public Health – Seattle & King County.
About Dr. Duchin: “Jeff served for over 15 years as Chief of the Public Health’s Communicable Disease Epidemiology & Immunization Section. Jeff trained as a Medical Epidemiologist in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) after which he completed the CDC’s Preventive Medicine Residency program.”
See his full bio here.
The doctor is on Twitter. Here’s a few of his tweets:

The blog post by Seattle-King County Public Health talks about suicide and firearm-related injuries including statistics, deaths  and costs to taxpayers. Read the full blog post here.
Here are excerpts from the agency’s new pledge:
“For that reason, Public Health is joining with leading medical professional associations to form a new collaboration with a renewed commitment to decrease firearm-related injury and deaths by working together and using a public health approach.
Prevention is the core of a public health approach, and firearm injuries and deaths can be prevented. We must address prevention of firearm-related injuries in the same way we do for other types of injuries, poisonings, and infectious and chronic diseases, using a public health approach that includes:

  • Screening to identify patients with risk factors for firearm-related injury
  • Educating patients and families about risk factors, firearm safety and injury prevention as we do for other diseases and causes of injury – gun owners and non-gun owners alike understand the importance of firearm safety
  • Gathering data and conducting research on risk and protective factors for firearm related injury and death in order to make evidence-based recommendations and strategies
  • Promoting the adoption of successful prevention strategies, including those addressing upstream drivers of violence, such as childhood abuse, neglect and trauma, poverty, substance use disorders, disrupted families and communities, and being a victim of violence
  • Fostering multidisciplinary and community collaborations with stakeholders interested in reducing firearm-related injury and death, including gun-owners

The medical community has an important role in this work.  You can read our joint statement, which includes a description of our approach and examples of actions healthcare providers can take to reduce firearm-related injury and death, at https://www.kingcounty.gov/firearm-injuries-ph. 
(WARNING: I tried clicking on the link to read the document and each time I did my computer froze. Not sure if it’s just my computer or the Public Health link.)
This collaboration among healthcare provider professional organizations is the first of many steps local and statewide medical professionals can take together to reduce firearm injury and death in our communities. We invite other healthcare professional organizations to join us by endorsing our statement and/or participating in our future work.”
MyNorthwest.com has some more details:
“Those efforts include joining with experts at Harborview Injury Prevention and Research Center, Washington State Medical Association, King County Medical Society, and other state and local medical groups to recommend more screening and education for patients of all ages, including everything from identifying risk factors to talking to them about the importance of safely storing guns.
It recommends medical professionals should also respect beliefs of lawful firearm owners in order to effectively communicate. Also, to use healthcare providers who are also gun owners to provide leadership and knowledge on the issue.


I wonder if any of the “data” gathered by doctors could be used in the future to determine if compliance is being achieved with Mayor Durkan’s proposed new gun legislation?
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MyBrainHurts
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MyBrainHurts

If my doctor asked me if I owned a firearm I would simply say “no,” even if I owned an arsenal bigger than the army’s. End of conversation.
If you aren’t going to ask me about my machete, my assortment of big kitchen knives, my long pointy garden tools, my ice pick and my collection of sewing scissors, what difference does it make.

CalGirl
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HA HA! LOVED this answer! You forgot: your car, SUV, muscle truck…or your local rental truck venue. Would never ever tell my Dr. anything that Obamacare instituted as part and parcel of “medical care” these days, like this line of gun questioning. Aside—like my Kaiser assn just recently sent me a letter urging me to make an appt w/my Dr(I don’t even know who my Dr. is these days at Kaiser) to discuss “end of life planning.” This is an Obamacare edict in which I refuse to participate. I have passed a certain age, but I am still full-time working/employed… Read more »

John Kernkamp
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John Kernkamp

Un-fortunately, if you are asked a question about firearms, your only option is to lie. ANY OTHER response will raise questions which could lead to an inquiry.

Disgusted
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Disgusted

As long as they keep their laws in Seattle, Portland, SF and their ilk, go for it.
Problem is Bloomberg and Soros use such laws as stepping stones to national confiscation.

smkay
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smkay

Do they want people to stop trusting thier doctors? Instead of lying to your doctor just ask a question back…
” if I told you I sold my guns and gun safe during the last gun buy back and bought a nice massage chair with the money, would it make you happy?”

skybill
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skybill

Hi FOTM,
If “My Dr.,” his assistant(s) and or associates were to ask me “ANY” questions about “GUNS!!” I don’t care how trivial, I would have only “TWO WORDS” for him/them……. “YOU’RE FIRED!!!!!” and walk out…..
Got GUNZ…………..OUTLAW!!!!!!,
skybill

Dr. Eowyn
Admin

Why are doctors, whose job is to cure illnesses, willing allow themselves be tools of anti-Constitution (2nd Amendment) fascists?

Alma
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Alma

Money talks – bullshit walks.

Dennis Godaire
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Dennis Godaire

The answer is always NO. All questions not related to medical concerns should not be answered with anything other than a NO.

Canadian Wildflower
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Actually, “None of your beeswax” would be more truthful!

marblenecltr
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While we are discussing prevention of unwanted deaths due to private ownership of firearms, why not study means of preventing unwanted deaths from dictators ruling a defenseless society, especially from Globalist dictators seeking to rid the earth of 90% of its human population? Oh, now I get, those wouldn’t be unwanted deaths!

Brian Heinz
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“Prevention is the core of a public health approach, and firearm injuries and deaths can be prevented.” How about we change a few words and make it out saying. “Prevention is the core of a public health approach, and Doctors who have Mal-practice injuries and deaths to patients can be prevented.” Now that sounds like a good public service announcement do you not agree? Folks don’t admit to anything no is the best thing you can say or do about it until we loose all our rights do not tell them anything and you’ll be much better off than sounding… Read more »

chemtrailssuck
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Doctors have helped kill more people I know than any other ‘weapon’ out there. They’re (mostly) a menace!

Brian Heinz
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Spot on and lets ban dr. instead of guns.

chemtrailssuck
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They are just gathering more information to give the ‘authorities’ so they know who to go after in case of “civil unrest”. Anyone who tells their doctor this sort of thing is crazy.
People should ask the doctor if THEY own guns. Don’t tell them anything.

chemtrailssuck
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Ya know, this just popped into my little brain- they’re trying to push this thing in our state where if someone might be ‘mentally unstable’ that they can take their guns (family members or whoever can rat out that person apparently). So, what is to stop a doctor from asking a person if they’re say, depressed and if they say ‘yes’, then they send el copo’s to your hacienda and confiscate your guns?

TheRon
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TheRon

I’ve seen reports that legal prescription drugs kill on the average about 120,000 a year. And who prescribed these? Oh, “physician, health thyself.”

Kevin Lankford
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They really do need to stick with their ‘medical practice’. There is a reason it is called a “Practice”. Doctors kill a thousands of times more patients through medical malpractice every year than gun owners do on purpose or accident.

chemtrailssuck
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I looked at the “stats” that Grif printed out below. Those meddling doctors only WISH they killed that few numbers of people every year. They are the ones who should be restricted!

NowhereMan
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NowhereMan

Doc: Do you own guns?
Me: Go f*ck yourself.

chemtrailssuck
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LOL! Well, you also could say “please” after that and then he’d think you were being nice. 🙂 Awesome.

Canadian Wildflower
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Me, I decided a number of years ago, that I would rather trust the Lord who created my body to be my physician, and keep as far away from these tools of the state as possible. The more I learn about them, the gladder I am for my decision!!

chemtrailssuck
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Like my mom used to say (before they helped kill her with prescription drugs), don’t go to a doctor unless you can’t stand the pain, can’t stop the bleeding or are unconscious. I’ve been hit on the head and knocked out and I still didn’t go, ha ha!

Grif
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Grif

DCG: I have converted the Seattle firearm safety document to a Word document. DCG: Here is the text of the document that kept freezing up your computer. I have converted the original pdf doc to a Word doc., then pasted the text to fit the FOTM reply format. Firearm-Related Injury and Death as a Public Health Problem: The Role of the Physicians and Nurses Statement from Public Health – Seattle & King County and Washington State Physician and Nursing Leadership BACKGROUND As healthcare providers, we recognize firearm-related injury and death as a public health epidemic. We also know that firearm-related… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Hey, I thought there was HIPPA… oh, wait, gov’t doesn’t abide by that (especially progressives).

ManCavePatriot
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ManCavePatriot

Under Obamacare HIPPA guidelines, physicians and other healthcare professionals were allowed to inquire about patients personal data if they felt it was germane to their care. The promise that any of this info would be kept confidential is ridiculous.

Grif
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Grif

This “Firearm-Death-Injury . . .” document is littered with the intellectual refuse of a cadre of supposed expert researchers, which, considering their vapid, discredited, illogical, conclusions, bespeaks of a group whose collective IQs would not reach the temperature in a drafty castle high in the Alps on a snowy December night. Good Davy Jones, as my grandmother used to say! How can anyone be so stupid? This is nothing but a regurgitation, in medical parlance, of the same nonsense spewed out by every anti-Second Amendment group that has come down the pike. Here is just a few of the recommendation… Read more »

chemtrailssuck
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In some communist countries they used the medical establishment to get rid of the people, in a book by Vicktor Schauberg he said that he was forced to get an annual physical to keep his pension. His companion was waiting at a coffee shop for him to finish, and when he didn’t return they went looking for him. He was in a ‘mental’ facility and they were holding him there, one of the inmates I mean patients told him to not make a scene or they would give him a shot and he’d go ‘bye bye’. He ended up getting… Read more »

YouKnowWho
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YouKnowWho

Red flag: ‘Change their approach’.
Not change their agenda.
Gun Grabbers=useful idiots
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

chemtrailssuck
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People need to ask themselves….just WHY are they so darn INTENT on taking everyone’s firearms?

Grif
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Grif

The answer, of course, is control. Throughout history, there has never been a people which, having once been disarmed, that has not then been enslaved in one fashion or another. This is not new. In 1609, the Japanese invaded the Ryukyu Islands (now Okinawa), and conquered the native kingdom. The first command issued to the conquered people was that all swords must be surrendered to the Japanese. The Okinawans have never regained their independence. On Nov. 11, 1938, the German minister of the interior issued “Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons.” Not only were Jews forbidden to own guns and… Read more »

chemtrailssuck
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I know, I was just being rhetorical. 😉

truckjunkie
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truckjunkie

“Seattle-King County Public Health want doctors to be more inquisitive into patient firearm access/ownership”
And I want truly FREE Healthcare with NO cost to ANYONE,but I doubt THAT will bring the desired result either.

Dave
Editor

Just say “No.”

Glenn47
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Glenn47

I remember when this came out as an issue for the doctors to ask their patients about gun ownership during the Obamacare fiasco. I thought right then, I would ask the doctor why he needed to know since I am a sane and functioning adult. The doctors have much more important things to do besides asking questions like this for gun controlling nutzo liberals.

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