Sandy Hook: Why are there 4 versions of Noah Pozner’s death certificate?

This is a reblog of the April 17, 2019 post on Huntingfororcs blog (https://wordpress.com/posts/huntingfororcs.wordpress.com), which is archived here and here, and republished on James Fetzer‘s and other blogs, including DC Clothesline, to which Lenny Pozner’s HONR Network has issued a takedown demand — although everything in the post is factual and in the public record.

Note to Fellowship of the Minds‘ host-server: The images of documents published in this post are all in the public record, i.e., in the public domain. This post, therefore, cannot be construed in any way as a “harassment” of anyone. Those public documents published in this post are:

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Lenny Pozner, father of Noah, a victim of the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting, is suing Professor James Fetzer.

Central to the lawsuit is Noah Pozner’s death certificate.

In the United States, a standard model death certificate was developed around 1910, in the interest of uniformity and consistency in record keeping. As Lawrence K. Altman, M.D., wrote in the New York Times on July 1, 2013:

Before 1900, the United States lagged behind European countries in developing a centralized death registration system. By 1910, the country had developed a standard model death certificate, Dr. Randy Hanzlick wrote in a 1996 history of death registration for The Journal of Forensic Sciences.

Lenny’s lawsuit claims that Fetzer has “defamed” Lenny by asserting in books and his blog that Noah’s death certificate, which Fetzer had received from an individual named Kelley Watt who claims her source to be Lenny himself, is fraudulent. In the lawsuit, Lenny provides an image of what he claims to be Noah’s real “official” death certificate — Attachment A on page 15 in Pozner v. Fetzer Civil Complaint & Demand For Jury Trial, filed on November 27, 2018, at the Circuit Court of Dane County, Wisconsin.

We will number the Fetzer-Watt document as Death Certificate #1, which is Exhibit A on page 4 of Fetzer’s Request For Admissions, filed on January 24, 2019, at the Circuit Court of Dane County, Wisconsin. We will number the image that Lenny provided as Noah’s “official” death certificate as Death Certificate #2.

Death Certificate #1:

Below is a screen shot of Death Certificate #1 — Noah’s death certificate that Fetzer had received from Watt, who in turn had received it from Lenny Pozner himself. Note the following:

  • The top right box (circled pink) for the death certificate’s State File Number is blank.
  • The words in three boxes are blacked out: two side-by-side boxes for the name and location of the cemetery, and a box in the lower right labeled “Social Security Number” of the decedent, Noah.
  • There is no seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom of the certificate.

Kelley Watt has provided Fetzer with an affidavit stating that the source of Death Certificate #1, Exhibit A in Fetzer’s Request For Admissions, is Lenny Pozner himself. That then leads to this question: How did Lenny get hold of Noah’s death certificate BEFORE it received a file number and BEFORE the State of Connecticut certified the certificate with its seal? 

Death Certificate #2:

Below is a screen shot of a strangely blurry death certificate of Noah which Lenny claims to be the “official” death certificate, which is Attachment A in Pozner v. Fetzer Civil Complaint & Demand For Jury Trial. Note the following:

  • There is a handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033 in the top right box. But the words in the other boxes, except for signatures, are typewritten.
  • The lower left box for the decedent’s (Noah’s) Social Security Number, which was blacked out in Death Certificate #1, is blank.
  • There is the seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom of the certificate.

Death Certificates #3 and #4:

Curiously, there are at least two other online versions of Noah’s death certificates, identified as Exhibits C and D on pages 6 and 7 in Fetzer’s Request For Admissions. We will call them Death Certificate #3 and Death Certificate #4.

June 10, 2017 post on the blog, SandyHookFacts.com, has two images of Noah’s death certificate:

(1) A “parent copy” that was released by Lenny Pozner in 2014, which is identical to the Death Certificate #1 that Kelley Watt gave Fetzer. We will call this “parent copy” Death Certificate #3.

Below is a screenshot of Death Certificate #3. Note the following:

  • Like Death Certificate #1, the box for State File Number is blank.
  • Like Death Certificate #1, the box for Social Security Number is blacked out.
  • Like Death Certificate #1, there is no certified seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom of the certificate.

(2) The same source, SandyHookFacts.com, also published another version of Noah’s death certificate, which the blog calls a “public” copy that is a “Certified Death Certificate” obtained in 2016 from Newtown Town Clerk, which “was released on video by SandyHookFact.com” — “the premeir release of this document by blog.” We will call this “public copy” Death Certificate #4.

Below is a screenshot of Death Certificate #4. Note the following:

  • In the box for State File Number is a partial printed number 0243. Recall that the handwritten State File Number in Death Certificate #2 is 2012-07-078033.
  • Boxes 54-58 and the box for Social Security Number that are in Death Certificates #1, #2 and #3 are missing.
  • Nor does Death Certificate #4 have the seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom, which is also missing in Death Certificates #1 and #3.

Death Certificate #5:

Then there is Death Certificate #5, Noah Pozner’s definitive, official death certificate, certified by the State of Connecticut and issued by the Registrar of Vital Records Elizabeth Frugale on March 20, 2019. In most U.S. states, including Connecticut, death and birth certificates are considered public records. Anyone can obtain a certified copy of any Connecticut death certificate by going to:

https://portal.ct.gov/DPH/Vital-Records/State-Vital-Records-Office–Home

We will call this Death Certificate #5. Below is a screenshot of the scan of this officially certified death certificate of Noah Pozner. Note the following:

  • Like Death Certificate #2, and unlike Death Certificates #1, #3 and #4, the top right box has a handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033.
  • The bottom right box for Noah’s Social Security Number is blank, but the blankness appears to be a result of erasure (or “whiteout”). The printed words “Social Security” of “Social Security Number” and a little bit of the bottom line are also erased.

To conclude, there are at least four different versions of Noah Pozner’s death certificate:

(1) Certificates #1 (Fetzer’s copy of the death certificate obtained from Kelley Watt) and #3 (death certificate posted on SandyHookFacts.com) appear to be identical and share these characteristics:

  • A blank State File Number box.
  • Three boxes are blacked out: two side-by-side boxes for the name and location of the cemetery, and a box in the lower right labeled “Social Security Number” of the decedent, Noah.
  • No seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom of the certificate.

(2) Certificate #2, Attachment A in Pozner v. Fetzer Civil Complaint & Demand For Jury Trial, which Lenny Pozner claims to be Noah’s “official” death certificate, has the following characteristics:

  • Unlike Death Certificates #1 and #3, there is a handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033 in the top right box.
  • The lower right box for the decedent’s (Noah’s) Social Security Number, which was blacked out in Death Certificates #1 and #3, is blank.
  • Unlike Death Certificates #1 and #3, there is the seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom of this certificate.

(3) Certificate #4, which SandyHookFacts.com claims to be a “public” copy of a “Certified Death Certificate” obtained in 2016 from Newtown Town Clerk, has the following characteristics:

  • There is a partial printed, not handwritten, number 0243 in the box for State File Number, which is completely different from the handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033 in Death Certificate #2.
  • Boxes 54-58 and the box for Social Security Number that are in Death Certificates #1, #2 and #3 are missing.
  • Like Death Certificates #1 and #3, there is no seal of the State of Connecticut at the bottom, although SandyHookFacts.com says Death Certificate #4 is a “Certified Death Certificate”.

(4) Death Certificate #5, the official certified copy of the death certificate issued by the State of Connecticut on March 20, 2019, with the following characteristics:

  • Like Death Certificate #2, but unlike Death Certificates #1, #3 and #4, the top right box has a handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033.
  • Unlike Death Certificate #2, instead of being blacked out, the box for Noah’s Social Security Number is blank, but the blankness appears to be a result of erasure (or “whiteout”).

One last curiosity:

Note that both Death Certificates #2 and #5 have a handwritten State File Number 2012-07-078033, but the words in the other boxes (except for signatures) are all typed.

Below is a screen shot of the certified death certificate of X, a man who died in New Haven, Connecticut on November 6, 2017, which was issued on March 20, 2019. X’s name and the names of his relatives (Boxes 18-22) are blacked out in the interest of privacy. Note that the State File Number 2017 07027410 of X’s certified death certificate is printed, not handwritten as in Noah’s certified death certificate (#5).

To conclude:

Assuming that Death Certificate #5, the certified copy of Noah Pozner’s death certificate that was issued by the State of Connecticut’s Registrar of Vital Records Elizabeth Frugale on March 20, 2019, is the “real” death certificate, since it differs from Death Certificates (DC) #1, #2, #3, and #4, that would make those four death certificates fraudulent — including the Fetzer-Watt copy (DC #1), the subject of Lenny Pozner’s lawsuit against James Fetzer, as well as the death certificate Lenny claims to be Noah’s “official” death certificate (DC #2) which he included in Civil Complaint & Demand For Jury Trial as Attachment A.

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Watertender
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Watertender

Just like the “birth certificate” that Obama showed the world. Makes you wonder doesn’t it…

William
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The question is obviously rhetorical but I would answer by saying that it’s possible to create an infinite number of fake death certificates, especially for someone who may or may not have even existed. I’m sure it’s not news to anyone here that NP’s picture showed up on the memorial wall for the FF shooting at the Peshawar military school in Pakistan two years later as well as on various websites, identified as Huzaifa Huxaifa. The only explanation is that little Noah died and was reincarnated as Huzaifa only to be killed in yet another school massacre. Talk about bad… Read more »

William
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And just for starters I’d never trust anyone named Lenny Posner anyway. I imagine the first words he ever spoke were, “have I got a deal for you”. The whole lot of SHES perpetrators are traitors to their country

Lophatt
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Lophatt

When I looked into this once before, I found that in Connecticut the funeral director receiving the body actually “declares” the death. That is strange to me. It could be that the funeral home completes the typewritten form and sends it to the state for assignment of a number. That would explain why one is blank. It could be that the parents receive a copy from the funeral home before they can get one from the State with the assigned file number. This is, of course, a guess. If you have ever tried to get official records you will know… Read more »

TrailDust
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Thank you for sticking with this one, Dr. Eowyn. It’s awful for anyone who dares question the main stream narrative. Just ask if this was an elaborate hoax, and everyone instantly decides that the questioner is heartless and is trampling innocent shooting victims.

YouKnowWho
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Why would one use blackout in one place and whiteout in another? More than one bad actor?

Jackie Puppet
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I don’t follow this as closely as some others here.

One question I have is why were some of these filings filed in Dane County, Wisconsin? Is that where Jim Fetzer lives?

William
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No to drag out this “thread” but this is a reply to Lophatt’s reply. The reply form is contracted for some reason. Things do sort out over time, life is like that, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. When experiencing a succession of misfortunes however it begins to seem unnatural. I underwent what I call a seige of hell a few years back and in retrospect it centered around my ex-wife. She had been involved with all manner of occultic activity for some time. We separated for reasons that are still unclear to me and after that I began… Read more »

William
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My last comment here was way way off topic. Lost track of where I was. Apologies

Diane J.
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My question would be, can alterations be made to an official, signed document without the signers having to resign it, or acknowledging the changes in some way? In the medical field, we would occasionally have to add to, or change something we wrote, but we never removed the original wording, and we always initialed and dated any changes/additions we made. On all four versions of the same document, the handwritten numbers and signature are identical down to the size, flair, and placement within the boxes, indicating that the form (with original signatures) was photocopied. If it’s legal to do this,… Read more »

thetruthtold
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how can anybody think there is not a problem with all this poison the well fake records. this needs to be heard in a court that is not corrupted by the traitors and these people must be put away to send the right message to others. what does this say to our future. i have kids and grand-kids in school in this un-constitutional state of Connecticut.