Presbyterian Church USA goes homo

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God created Adam & Steve
Rachel Zoll reports for the AP that last night, March 17, 2015, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) recognized homosexual marriage as “Christian” in the church constitution by expanding its definition of marriage to include a “commitment between two people.” The denomination has nearly 1.8 million members and about 10,000 congregations and is now the largest Protestant group to authorize gay weddings churchwide.
The redefinition had been endorsed last year by the General Assembly, the Louisville, Kentucky-based church’s top legislative body, but required approval from a majority of the church’s 171 regional districts or presbyteries. The critical 86th “yes” vote came last night from the Presbytery of the Palisades in New Jersey.
After all regional bodies finish voting and top Presbyterian leaders officially accept the results, the change will take effect June 21. 
So far, 41 presbyteries have rejected the redefinition and the vote in one presbytery was tied, according to a tally by the Covenant Network of Presbyterians, which advocates for homosexuals in the church and also works to keep Presbyterians united despite theological differences.
Last year, Presbyterians allowed ministers to preside at same-sex weddings if local church leaders approved in the states where same-sex unions were legally recognized. The new wording for the church Book of Order extends that authorization to every congregation and reads, “Marriage involves a unique commitment between two people, traditionally a man and a woman, to love and support each other for the rest of their lives.”
The amendment includes a provision that no clergy would be compelled to preside at a gay marriage or host such a ceremony on church property.
Between 2011, when the Presbyterians authorized queer ordination, and 2013, the latest year for which figures are available, 428 of the denomination’s churches left for more conservative denominations or dissolved. Their departure helped pave the way for approval of gay marriage, since many opponents had left the church.
Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee, said the new definition was a repudiation of the Bible and approved “what God does not bless.” She urged Presbyterians to protest by redirecting donations away from the national church until the original marriage definition is restored.
The Rev. Paul Detterman, national director of The Fellowship Community, a network of conservative Presbyterian churches that have stayed with the denomination, said his organization will “remain faithfully engaged in conversation” with those of different views in the church. He said the Fellowship’s opposition to the amendment is not intended to be anti-gay but aims to uphold the traditional Bible view of marriage.
Other Protestant churches that are pro-homosexual marriage include:

  1. United Church of Christ (UCC): In 2005, the 1.1 million-member UCC became the first major Protestant denomination to back same-sex marriage, urging its individual congregations to develop wedding policies that don’t discriminate against couples because of gender.
  2. The Episcopal Church blazed a trail in 2003 by electing the first openly homosexual Anglican bishop, Gene Robinson, does not have a formal position on gay marriage, but allows bishops to decide whether their priests can officiate at the ceremonies. Episcopalians will take up homosexual marriage at a national meeting in June.
  3. The Evangelical Lutheran Church (ELC) in America eliminated barriers to homosexual ordination in 2009. ELC takes a similar approach on homosexual marriage as the Episcopal Church, allowing some discretion by clergy and congregations without formally recognizing same-sex marriage as a denomination.
  4. The United Methodist Church, the second-largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., bars “self-avowed practicing homosexuals” from ordination and prohibits homosexual weddings, but many Methodist clergy have been performing same-sex marriages as a protest of church policy.

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0 responses to “Presbyterian Church USA goes homo

  1. No , Adam and Steve

  2. Dear Lord how much longer will you tarry? Lot could not find ten rightous people in the whole of Sodom and Gamarroh, will you wait until the world gets that bad before you come again? I pray not.

    • MA in MO:
      I am with you on this; and it appears that we have the same heartfelt feelings about this world: “…and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds)…” {2 Peter 2.7-8.}.

  3. And this is proof that these are no longer ” churches” in the true sense of the word, these are now people praising groups. It’s all about the dollar and blowing smoke up people’s butts to make them feel like all is well when in fact all is Hell.

  4. more proof, the end is near. these dens of eniquity become more secular & man pleasing all the time. I’m glad I left the church over 30 years ago. someone needs to make a whip & go thru & clean house. any real Christians left out there?

  5. I’m glad this was posted because the Presbyterian church has been off the rails for a long time, this is just another added failure to their many other failures. Sadly the downward slide has been going on for over 60 years. Anyone remember J. Vernon McGee? He still has the radio program, Through the Bible with J. Vernon McGee. Well, he died in 1988, and it had to be 30 or 40 years before that where the Presbyterian church decided to change its doctrine. McGee fought them to no avail, and so left the church. He was a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary and was strong enough in his faith to know the church was in decline. His ministry survives today because he preached the truth. There were many back then like that. Does anyone remember Bishop Fulton Sheen? My mom and I used to watch him on television all the time when I was little. Mother loved his preaching. Our churches have failed us…
    Watch for an article on our pulpits on Sunday. The sin of Sodomy has infiltrated just about everything in society today, and those of us who cling to our guns and BIBLES are thought of as terrorists…but we know the truth.

    • This is one of the dividing lines between the “invisible church” (true believers), and the “visible church” (‘professing christians’ – lower case intentional).

    • Anyone remember J. Vernon McGee? …. His ministry survives today because he preached the truth.
      Absolutely! J. Vernon is even now one of the favorite teachers in the Bible churches, the assemblies, because his teaching has always been so firmly grounded in Biblical truth and sound doctrine. I first learned of him when I was driving for a living, and in areas where I could hear the Bible Broadcasting Network; he was enormously influential in my own growth in Christian faith and understanding.

    • Kelleigh; I’m a little late in sending this; but was just going through my library and wondered if you’ve read Arnold’s “Israelology – The Missing Link in Systematic Theology”? It’s his Doctorate Dissertation; written over a 13-year period?
      Oh, I changed my Avatar too; I got tired of looking at that grumpy little old man!

  6. I’m afraid that many large (and small) denominational churches have become apostate. This is of course prophesied: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.” (2 Timothy 4.3-4.). To me, this is just more evidence that we are living in the ‘last days’.

  7. Please, that I may add that Dr. R.C. Sproul; a very learned contemporary theologian/philosopher, who was originally affiliated with the Presbyterian church, long ago rejected its teachings. He is now of course, committed to the Word of God alone {sound Biblical doctrine}. His pastorate is St. Andrews of Lake Mary, Florida. He is a prolific author of MANY excellent books and commentaries including “The Holiness of God”, and “Chosen by God”. I highly recommend his written offerings which are all available through (I hope this endorsement is allowed – it is not really intended as an advertisement!).

  8. If God doesn’t destroy America, he will have to apologize to Sodom And Gomorrah!

  9. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I’ve read the Whole Bible once, and N,T.3 times now. I am not a Biblical scholar by any means, but it sure seems to me some things are fairly easy to comprehend. Some may get a bit confusing and the notes help and a reread. My point being I don’t think the Bible is a kinda ” Hey guys you want some help maybe look in here kinda book” No some is cut and dried.
    Pretty darn sure “Adam and Steve is a no GO.

  10. With only a few exceptions, the Presbyterians have become useless and harmful, a very sad state of affairs for a once great denomination.

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  12. Shades of Sodom and Gomorrah is right. Northern Girl you said it all.
    Anyone see Cardinal Dolans antics over the St Paddies day parade ? Wondering how far behind the Catholic Church is on all this.

  13. Well, now gays don’t have a reason to go to churches whose commitment to GOD, and HIS laws (not man’s) does not allow for the sanctioning and blessing of GOD, over a marriage between 2 men, or 2 women. Now if any do, it would only be to harrass and bully the church. Wish someone in mainstream media had mentioned this. We clearly need to watch each others back. The government must be choosing pro gay marriage, because they have also chosen to only hear the activists. It is unfair for judges who are pro-gay, (or anti-gay) marriages to make decisions that affect the whole country. The majority in America have voted against gay marriages, but a court overruled the law of the land.


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