Pedophilia – Time to Normalize?

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Press Release

DATE: August 22, 2011
‘Time to Normalize Pedophilia’: Firsthand Report on B4U-ACT Conference 
Lynchburg, VA – On Wednesday, August 17, child advocates Matt Barber, Vice President of Liberty Counsel Action, and Dr. Judith Reisman, a visiting law professor at Liberty University School of Law, attended a Baltimore, MD conference hosted by the pedophile group B4U-ACT. Around 50 individuals were in attendance including a number of admitted pedophiles – or “Minor-Attracted Persons” as they prefer to be identified (MAP “sexual orientation”) – as well as several supportive mental health professionals. World renowned “sexologist,” Dr. Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins University gave the keynote address, saying: “I want to completely support the goal of B4U-ACT.”
Highlights of the conference:
  • Pedophiles are “unfairly stigmatized and demonized” by society.
  • There was concern about “vice-laden diagnostic criteria” and “cultural baggage of wrongfulness.”
  •  “We are not required to interfere with or inhibit our child’s sexuality.”
  • “Children are not inherently unable to consent” to sex with an adult.
  • “In Western culture sex is taken too seriously.”
  • “Anglo-American standard on age of consent is new [and ‘Puritanical’]. In Europe it was always set at 10 or 12. Ages of consent beyond that are relatively new and very strange, especially for boys. They’ve always been able to have sex at any age.”
  • An adult’s desire to have sex with children is “normative.”
  • Our society should “maximize individual liberty. … We have a highly moralistic society that is not consistent with liberty.”
  • “Assuming children are unable to consent lends itself to criminalization and stigmatization.”
  • “These things are not black and white; there are various shades of gray.”
  • A consensus belief by both speakers and pedophiles in attendance was that, because it vilifies MAPs, pedophilia should be removed as a mental disorder from the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), in the same manner homosexuality was removed in 1973.
  • Dr. Fred Berlin acknowledged that it was political activism, similar to that witnessed at the conference, rather than scientific considerations that successfully led to the declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder: The reason “homosexuality was taken out of DSM is that people didn’t want the government in the bedroom,” he said.
  • Dr. Berlin appeared to endorse the politically maligned clinical practice of “reparative therapy” for homosexuals and pedophiles alike, saying, “If someone, for their own reasons, doesn’t want to live a homosexual lifestyle, I tell them that it’s hard but I’ll try to help them.”
  • The DSM ignores that pedophiles “have feelings of love and romance for children” in the same way adult heterosexuals and homosexuals have romantic feelings for one another.
  • “The majority of pedophiles are gentle and rational.”
  • The DSM should “focus on the needs” of the pedophile, and should have “a minimal focus on social control,” rather than obsessing about the “need to protect children.”
  • Self-descried “gay activist” and speaker Jacob Breslow said that children can properly be “the object of our attraction.” He further objectified children, suggesting that pedophiles needn’t gain consent from a child to have sex with “it” any more than we need consent from a shoe to wear it. He then used graphic, slang language to favorably describe the act of climaxing (ejaculating) “on or with” a child. No one in attendance objected to this explicit depiction of child sexual assault.

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0 responses to “Pedophilia – Time to Normalize?

  1. Dr.Berlin is the one who needs reparative therapy.

  2. This is sick. If they’re trying to make teenage boys less homophobic about gays and strange men, they’re not succeeding.

  3. There are simply no words for this. I speak as a mother, a grandmother, and should I ever see or suspect anyone attempting to molest a child, I would rip them limb from limb.
    My outrage is enormous.
    This is such a sick society. How did we get to this place?

  4. Fine, remove it as a mental illness and call it was it is: CRIMINAL! It’s sadistic, egocentric, disgusting, despicable, sick, twisted, degrading, brutal, perverse, barbarous, vicious, atrocious, inhumane, uncivilized, savage, perverted, ruthless, selfish, fiendish, monstrous, wicked, EVIL… pick one.

  5. I think it is amazing how every sort of minority group, as abhorrent as it might be, is transformed into a victim group by the pc movement. Poor pedophile, I mean, MAP. He just want to rape small children, nothing worse than that, and are stigmatized and persecuted for those inherent needs. How poor and miserable are they! SERIOUSLY? In some years the pc movement will have convinced us all that being a pedophile is cool! Perhaps there will be pedophile parades with the MAPs dressed as mickey mouse. They already did it once with the homosexuals…

    • “Perhaps there will be pedophile parades with the MAPs dressed as mickey mouse. They already did it once with the homosexuals…”
      Siegfried, sad to say, the day will come when you’ll be proved to have been prescient. We already have a NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association). Next, it’ll be Pedophile Pride Parade.

  6. Clifton Lee West

    This is what we get for trying to be “politically correct,” thanks to the Liberals/Progressives. As a rule, I could care less what turns people on because I don’t want to be sick to my stomach all the time. However, as a father, grandfather and great grandfather, if someone lays a hand on any of my group, they will lose that hand, permanently. If this offends Barack Obama, his wife, Michelle, their daughters, so be it. If this offends Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, Al Gore and the rest of the motley crew, good, no, double good, they themselves are equally offensive. Call me old fashioned, but I didn’t make anyone gay or a pedophile and I don’t have to cozy up to them for any reason, and won’t, period!

  7. I just threw up…Comparing the consent of a child to that of a shoe? Friggin lunatic.
    Child advocate my arse…

    • Strangely, they (the gay and pedophile loving libertards) are the first ones to say that a parent can’t discipline a child. So if I understand it, ground a kid, take away the wii or smack their butts are realle, REALLY, bad things that will tramatize the kid and turn her/him into an abuser, BUT to rape them is ok. It makes sense, doesn’t it??? Nah…

    • This is an Outrage pure freaken Evil 4reals protect the kids>

  8. The Cloward-Piven strategy for the “personal is political” crowd– they don’t give a rat’s butts about freakos per se, just being as destructive to morals and value as possible. (And not just here, all the left/libtard advocates about sexual-anything are this way.)

  9. it’s njot a mental disorder, it’s EVIL AT IT’S WORST.

  10. A company called Smith & Wesson solved this problem over a hundred years ago.

    • Oh Dave, but haven’t you understand it? Defend yourself or others with violence is baaaaaaad. To rape is ok, to murder is ok, to rob is ok… And plus, you get human rights!!! But if one “offend” them by saying one disapproves of their life style, one is a CRIMINAL, without human rights, and will be thrown in jail because is an intolerant bastart!!! From now on we can only defend ourselves and our loved ones by psycotherapy with some gay-pedophile loving libertard – for the surviving ones – and those who die… I would say prayers, but nah… They are disconstructing the judeo-christian morality so unless we become muslims… Wait, probably not, dont they murder rape victims because they have offended the family? And welcome to George Orwell’s 1984!!!

  11. So shocking I can’t add anything that has not been said!
    “. . . the ability to believe that black is white, and what is more to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary”. A nice quote from George Orwell.

  12. Awesome, so they leave the reader on the last point with some jerk talking about how raping children is okay, to make sure the reader doesn’t pay attention to any of the other rational points being made. Ridiculous.

  13. I’m with Dave. Zero tolerance.

  14. Llewellyn Andrew Comrie

    All the folk who attended this conference should be investigated as possible pedophiles. I saw no reasonable argument and as someone who suffered at the hands of one Im disgusted at what they’re proposing. They are essentially saying children should have no rights and when it comes to child sexuality, it the biggest load of bull sold to justify the deeds of really evil men and woman. Children should be protected, simple and all the individuals who contributed to this should hang their heads, a stone tied around their neck and be cast in a river.

  15. Wow. As a gay man, I am disgusted by the parallels they are trying to draw between the stigma of homosexuality and the “stigma” of pedophelia. An emotional/mental/physical connection between two consenting ADULTS and the emotional/mental/physical turmoil inflicted on a child by a CRIMINAL are not comparable any more than healthy sexual activity in a stable relationship and sexual assault are. 
    Opening your mind does not mean losing it entirely. These men are very very sick, and unfortunately the Internet has enabled anyone with a computer, access to a worldwide community of people like them. The sense of community makes them feel less alone in their perversion – and a society that teaches you can have anything if you whine enough – is what has caused this. This has nothing to do with acceptance of any sexual orientation and everything to do with plain old right and wrong. Don’t let these perverts blind you to the real issues. Or perhaps, don’t use the arguments of the mentally unstable to support your own personal prejudices. If you want to decry same sex attraction, do so somewhere else. I’m sure there are several articles here where these arguments wouldn’t be taken so far out of context. 

  16. Am just disgusted in the perverse behavior of these individuals called humans made in the image likeness of God Almighty. God Help us the good adults be vigilant and protect out innocent children of God>>>Save Souls>>>God Bless.

  17. anon girl lover

    I am a girl lover/pedo. Before you hate on me know I have never touched a child because I fear the legal ramifications. Also, I am just as attracted to grown women as well. Just hear me out please.
    All you guys are hating on pedo’s simply because the only ones you hear about in the media ARE the bad ones. But really it is a very small percent of us that are that way. They make a very bad image for those that only want to love the girls and be very kind and gentle about it. Sex is just sex, why should our kids not be allowed to participate in what is the single most enjoyable activity in the world. Years ago I had a friend that was a single dad of two girls, 14 and 8, and they had relations on a regular basis. The girls knew what was going on, knew the potential risks, and it was incredibly fun for everyone involved. The girls grew up perfectly normal and well adjusted and still remember those times quite fondly.
    Sure there are still those that want to force themselves on kids, just like any other rapists, and they need to be punished the same. I fully believe in protecting our children, but only from the things they actually need protecting from, and fun consensual sex is not one of those things.
    Once we stop seeing sex as the old religious taboo and start accepting it for what it is, we will realize that there is no point in limiting who can have it.

    • “Years ago I had a friend that was a single dad of two girls, 14 and 8, and they had relations on a regular basis. The girls knew what was going on, knew the potential risks, and it was incredibly fun for everyone involved.”
      Good grief. You are one extremely disturbed person. Simply put, scientific evidence does not support your claim:
      According to a report by Debra K. Peters and Lillian M. Range, “a consistent finding was that women and men whose sexual abuse involved touching were more suicidal, less able to cope, and felt less responsible to their families than nonabused students.” Steven M. Mirin, M.D., medical director for the American Psychiatric Association, stated: “[F]rom a psychological perspective, sex between adults and child[ren] is always abusive and exploitative because the adult always holds the power in the relationship and the child does not. Such exploitation destroys the child’s trust that the adults in his or her life will not harm [him or her].”
      For more on the harmful effects of pedophilia on children, see

      • anon girl lover

        The main reason it becomes that way is mostly because how other people turn it into something traumatic. When a kid heres so much of “omg i cant believe he did that” and “he was such a monster for doing that” and whatever, they will eventually convince you that they are right and it will turn into something that is now traumatic, but not because of the the original event.

    • “Sex is just sex.” Maybe if you are a dog. For humans, sex is much more than a physical activity. It is an expression of love between two adults that goes beyond physical relations, it is an emotional connection as well.
      Why should our kids not participate in the “most enjoyable activity in the world”? Again, our children are not animals. Their brains are not mature enough to understand the ramnifications of sexual activity.
      Good grief, is nothing sacred anymore?

      • anon girl lover

        There are two distinctly different types of sex. There is the kind you talk about where it is very special and loving, then there is plain sex just for fun and recreation. The second kind is FAR more common. I have seen the results of both kinds with kids and they have all come out perfectly normal because it was a loving relationship, and they had always had the potential ramnifications explained to them, they were plenty smart enough to learn about safety and whatnot.

        • Sex for recreation with kids? Sick.
          Justify all you want about kids being normal. NAMBLA would be proud. For all I know you belong to NAMBLA.
          Can’t wait until your 9 year old girl has recreational sex with a 30 year old man. Any parent in their right mind would be more protective than I imagine you will ever be.

        • If minors are so “smart enough” then why aren’t their brains fully developed? Why can’t they vote? Drive? Drink alcohol? Why are they still in school? Why can’t they get a job? Get married?
          Ah, yet recreational sex is much easier to understand. Man, twisted logic you have mastered.

    • lowtechgrannie

      The child predator, Jerry Sandusky, is standing trial in Pennsylvania right now for the activities you advocate. His many victims are testifying and none of them described it as “fun”. They were traumatized, humiliated, shamed and psychologically scarred by his actions. I hope justice is swift and that the college authorities who had prior knowledge; but, took no action, get the same sentence.

      • anon girl lover

        There are the kind that are actual predators that do harm and traumatize the kids they are with, and I agree that those people should have their balls chopped up and force fed to them. Then hung by a lynch mob.
        On the other hand, I personally know plenty of girls that have had relations and do qualify it as quite fun, and they have all grown up just fine and perfectly normal.

    • Fuck you sideways, die most painfully, and burn in Hell for an eternity.
      -And that was the kind version. 🙂
      If you want, I’ll right happily, even gleefully, deliver the for-real, no-shit, unkind version.

  18. This actually took my breath away. I am so stunned that I can barely speak, which is rare for me. I am crying inside for all the poor innocent children that this type of thinking will harm and have already harmed. I am not a religious person, but knowing what those that are, are up against, I am seriously considering it! I guess what they say about the slippery slope is true unfortunately.

  19. Dr. Eowyn summed up the problem, give the left an inch and they will take a mile. Since Roe v. Wade, MILLIONS of children have been killed, primarily for women’s “convenience,” and to rectify their promiscuity. Even though less than 2 % of the population are “gay”, this is now a morally and politically correct state of being, having been shoved down our throats as acceptable behavior. Abortion and the sexual activity of homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures. Now, is anyone surprised that pedophiles are now advocating that sex with children is not evil, it is a right and now pedophiles are victims because they are just misunderstood. There can never be any negotiating with evil or persons who advocate for the most vile and repugnant sin a person could commit, having sex with a child. Our Lord said, that we must not call evil, good, or good, evil. The devil and his demons are at work at a level of evil that is absolutely unfathomable.
    Thank you so much Dr.Eowyn for exposing who “anon girl lover” really is, a 34 year old self-described pedophile. Eyes tell us so much about a person-and his eyes are evil looking and frightening. And now he is the expert on what is right for children. I will pray that this sick man be kept away from all children, and that St. Michael the Archangel take appropriate steps with this person..
    Can any of us imagine how this offends Our Lord?

  20. God will judge this guy flamewolf393 for his deeds.

  21. Well said, Kathy. Sexologist Dr. Fred Berlin looks like a creep:

  22. “Creep” is way too kind for this disgusting pig……are those little kids on his tie?!

  23. based on jewish tradition, shouldn’t the age of consent and adulthood hsppen at 13? i mean, since jews wrote the bible, might work! not sure if christ tackled that issue. dunno! maybe hitting puberty is old enough. maybe paedophilia should be pre-pubescent sex.

  24. Judith Höglund

    Homosexuality is between adults. These socalled experts ignor decades of child psychological and child sexuality research iin favour of exploiting their own views that are not, in any way backed by science. Children (and for the most part young girls) were married of at young ages for the property connected to the name. Cultural norms had nothing to do with sexual gratification or natural curiousity of children. Biologically children are curious about themselves, but not about sexual intercourse. Just because a child touches themselves and discovers that it is pleasurable, does not mean that they want to be fondled by an adult. An adult has too much control over and can manipulate a child into doing things that are physically and psychologically damaging to children. This nver has been and never will be an acceptable relationship between adult and child. It may have been accepted in other times, but so were slavery, child abuse and battery of women. This is an age old problem of an adult blaming the child for his\her wrongdoing. The child did not ask for it. You are the adult! Grow up! Protect the children first..AlWAYS.


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