New Hawaii Governor Vows to Stop Birthers

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Hawaii’s newly elected governor, Demonrat Neil Abercrombie, is vowing eternal enmity against those nasty birthers who doubt Obama’s undocumented insistence that he’s a “naturaL born citizen” as required for the presidency by the United States Constitution.
I say: “By all means! Just show us Obama’s original long-form birth certificate!”
Below is an L.A. Times article on Abercrombie written by an Obama stooge, Michael Memoli. My rebuttals to Memoli’s misleading and outright erroneous assertions are in purple.
H/t beloved fellow Tina.
~Eowyn

Neil AbercrombieAging hippie Neil Abercrombie.

Michael A. Memoli of the Los Angeles Times reports from Honolulu on December 24, 2010:
Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961, and he has been aggravated by the so-called birther movement, which alleges Obama was not born in the United States and thus should be expelled from office.
Now Abercrombie has an office of his own — he became governor of Hawaii on Dec. 6. — and he intends to do something about it.
What, exactly, is unclear. But in an interview this week at the state Capitol, he left little doubt that torpedoing the conspiracy theorists was a priority. “What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” said Abercrombie, 72. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ ” [Hmm, what does “here” mean? Was Abercrombie actually in the delivery room and is a percipient witness to The One’s birth? Or does “here” mean Honolulu? LOL]
One of Abercrombie’s aides said the governor is voicing the frustration of many Hawaiians who continue to be troubled by the rumors, which they see as emblematic of the view that Hawaiians are not Americans in the same way as those who live in the continental United States.
Abercrombie’s Hawaiian pride may be trumping practical politics. Ample evidence has been produced to discredit the “birther” movement, so in the view of the White House, the Democratic governor’s comments are reviving an issue that most people see as resolved. [The “evidence” consists of (1) an image posted online of Obama’s purported certificate-of-live-birth, which is a SECONDARY document generated from the presumed ORIGINAL long-form birth certificate; (2) a blurry photocopied image, posted online, of a personal ad in a Honolulu newspaper announcing The One’s birth; (3) an oral claim by a Hawaiian government official that she has seen The One’s birth certificate. Calling this “ample evidence” is ludicrous. Calling this even “evidence” at all will get you thrown out of any U.S. courthouse.]
Although Abercrombie’s goal may be to support Obama, experts who study political extremism [So now being faithful to the U.S. Constitution is “political extremism”?] say the release of additional evidence would only perpetuate the conspiracy theory. They say people who embrace such theories are guided by suspicion and, therefore, view any contrary evidence as part of the conspiracy. [Since the “contrary evidence” consists of none other than Hawaii’s Democrat Party, the National Democratic Party, and Congress itself admitting they had not vetted Obama’s birth eligibility, as well as a U.S. military judge at a court martial denying discovery documents to the Defense — documents including Obama’s birth certificate and kindergarten records — because she does not want to “embarrass the President,” any sane person would conclude that IT IS A CONSPIRACY!]
Abercrombie, a native of Buffalo, N.Y., arrived in 1959 to study sociology at the University of Hawaii. As a teaching assistant, he met and befriended Obama’s father, a native of Kenya. Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born in Kansas and met and married his father, also named Barack, when the two were college students in Hawaii. Obama was born at Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. [Make up your mind: Is it Kapi’olani Hospital or is it the earlier-claimed Queens Medical Center? One thing we do know is that no hospital in Honolulu or all of Hawaii actually has admitted Obama was born there. Why is that?]
But in 2008, as Obama ran for president, critics posted allegations online, without proof, that he was born in Kenya. [Obama’s paternal grandmother said she was an eye-witness to his birth in Kenya. Kenya government official and member of parliament James Orengo said Obama was  born in Kenya. As did a Nigerian newspaper and America’s own National Public Radio! They must all be lying!]
That June, the Obama campaign released a certificate of live birth, an official document from the Hawaii Health Department certifying the facts of a person’s birth, as proof of his birthplace. [Scientist Dr. Ronald Polland maintains the certificate-of-live-birth is a forgery.] Investigations by two prominent fact-checking organizations, PolitiFact and FactCheck.org, concluded that the certificate was authentic. [Neither PolitiFact nor FactCheck is a court of law. The next time I apply for a passport and the government demands my birth certificate, I’ll just show them an online image of a secondary document generated from my real birth certificate and tell the government that two websites have “certified” it’s true!] FactCheck also turned up a 1961 birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser marking the birth of a son to “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of Kalanianaole Hwy.” [Hey, Michael Memoli! You do know that anyone, ANYONE, can pay a newspaper to publish a personal ad, right? And you do know that such an ad is not acceptable as documentary evidence in court, right?]
But the Hawaii birth document, dated 2007 and generated at the request of the Obama campaign, was insufficient for some of Obama’s detractors. [We’re not “detractors”. We are “truth seekers.”] They demand the release of his original birth certificate, which in Hawaii is not a public record. Several lawsuits have been filed seeking to force Obama to disclose more information, but they have been routinely dismissed by courts.
Bills have been introduced in state legislatures that would require presidential candidates to document that they were born in this country. One was passed by the Arizona House of Representatives in April. Similar legislation was introduced in Congress in 2009 and failed to gain traction, but the attempt troubled Abercrombie.
“More than demonization — this is self-evisceration of politics,” said Abercrombie, who raised the birthplace issue unprompted during the interview. “Empires fall and countries fall when that takes the place of discourse.”
In Hawaii, the efforts to challenge Obama’s birthplace still burden the state government with endless requests for further documentation, officials have said. Abercrombie’s predecessor, Republican Linda Lingle, in May signed legislation that allowed the state to ignore repeated nuisance inquiries.
“If I were the governor, I would call a press conference, I’d pull out all the records I have and show the world he was born in Hawaii,” said state Sen. Will Espero, a Democrat who sponsored that bill.
But the state has consistently held that releasing all of Obama’s records would be a violation of its citizens’ confidentiality, and that privacy rights should not be sacrificed to appease extreme views. Espero said he understands that stance and noted that the conspiracy theories have ebbed.
But the movement made news this month, when a former Army officer, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, was dismissed from the military and sentenced to six months in military prison after he refused to deploy to Afghanistan because he claimed Obama may be ineligible to serve as president.
“When you look at the certification of live birth … you don’t find the name of the doctor, hospital or signature,” said prominent “birther” Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and dentist. “We’ve asked to see the original one that is still sealed.” Taitz said she is willing to debate Abercrombie on national television and “let the American people decide.”
An Abercrombie aide said the governor has not taken action to address the birth issue because he is focusing on his transition and preparing a budget for a state facing a deficit.[But Abercrombie has the time to complain about “birthers” to the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, the Chicago Tribune, on CNN, as well as the local Star Advertiser and Hawaii News Now!]
Any action by Abercrombie, who spent 19 years representing Hawaii’s 1st District as one of the more liberal members of Congress, would not be his first response to the “birther” controversy. Last year, he sponsored a congressional resolution honoring the 50th anniversary of Hawaiian statehood, which included language stating, “Whereas the 44th president of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii.” It passed unanimously. [Then Congress lied. None other than the Congressional Research Office has admitted that noone in Congress vetted Obama’s birth eligibility!]

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0 responses to “New Hawaii Governor Vows to Stop Birthers

  1. That is a “certification of live birth”. There is a significant difference between a “certificate” and a “certification of live birth” which Hawaii was issuing to anybody born live anywhere on earth at the time of Omoron’s birth.

     
  2. Abercrombie has stepped in it big time! doesn’t he look alot like Ayers?? this will play out interesting.

     
  3. All intelligent people will expect Boy Barack’s lips to be moving on this.
    POTUS -Obama has proven he lied about every goddamn thing he ever promised before US so stupidly elected Him.
    57,000,000 loyal Germans regretted voting for Adolf… give or take a few million der Feurer killed long before they could repent.

     
  4. I’ve enjoyed reading the comments on Drudge for the article about Abercombie. The majority are in favor of full disclosoure. I think they opened up Pandora’s box and they won’t be able to close it this time.

     
  5. I remember reading that Obama’s paternal grandmother said she attended his birth in Kenya. Is Abercrombie calling grandma a liar?

     
  6. > Obama’s paternal grandmother said she was an eye-witness to his birth in Kenya. Kenya government official and member of parliament James Orengo said Obama was born in Kenya. As did a Nigerian newspaper and America’s own National Public Radio! They must all be lying!
    You are being inconsequential.
    You believe Obama’s grandmother (who in fact did not say that in the unabridged version of the interview) but not Obama.
    You believe a Keynan government official but not a Republican US government official (Mrs. Lingle).
    You believe a Nigerian newspaper but not a US newspaper (the two publishing the birth announcements from Hawaii).
    You believe “National Public Radio” but not any of the media who say Obama was born in Hawaii.
    So in fact you take the words of a couple of Kenyans over a myriad of US citizens. I wonder why. This is beyond having selective perspective.

     
    • Read my post again. I never said I believed Obama’s Kenyan grandma, or Kenyan govt official Orengo, or the Nigerian paper, or America’s own NPR. I was rebutting Michael Memoli who wrote the LA Times article, shilling for Obama and asking for “contrary evidence.”
      I don’t know the truth. Do you? All I — and millions of American citizens — want is the truth, which can only be settled by Obama releasing his original long-form birth certificate. It exists. Otherwise the secondary Certificate-of-Live-Birth could never have been generated.
      Why wouldn’t Obama release his birth certificate? Even Chris Matthews wants to know. And yet, you Obamabots are still in denial. Why is that? What are you all so afraid of? THE TRUTH?

       
      • > which can only be settled by Obama releasing his original long-form birth certificate
        How can it be “settled” if already the birthers loudly proclaim they will consider any release from the Hawaiian authorities a forgery?
        Don’t be so intellectually dishonest as to call for something you already know you will not accept.
        > What are you all so afraid of? THE TRUTH?
        “Please don’t throw me into the briar patch”. Sound familiar?
        > I was rebutting Michael Memoli who wrote the LA Times article, shilling for Obama and asking for “contrary evidence.”
        But you didn’t cite any “contrary evidence”. It’s really laughable. You say that “Calling this even “evidence” at all will get you thrown out of any U.S. courthouse.”, referring to official Hawaiian government statements to the issue. Yet you proffer the same quality, in fact: less, of “evidence” when “rebutting” someone who is asking for “contrary evidence”.
        I have to spell the i-word out again: i.n.c.o.n.s.e.q.u.e.n.t.i.a.l.

         
  7. People whether they have opinions on his birthplace or not, need to ask themselves one simple question. What kind of person sitting in such a high office toys with the American people this way? What kind of people in other offices, Military, Supreme Court, and Congress allow that person to do it? The fact is, he is in a position of power and trust. I don’t think it’s asking a hell of a lot for him to release records so people can know his true background. For this reason alone, he isn’t fit to be where he is. He never deserved the title of President of the United States. He was elected for one reason only. It’s his complexion. He isn’t brilliant, he was the least qualified, and he’s as detestable a human being as they come.

     
    • April,
      Rarely have I seen anyone comment on this subject as well and succinctly as you. Thank you!
      And a very warm welcome to the Fellowship. 🙂

       
    • > I don’t think it’s asking a hell of a lot for him to release records so people can know his true background. For this reason alone, he isn’t fit to be where he is
      Please elaborate which previous Presidents have released said records while they were still in office. I still haven’t seen any President’s birth certificate, except Reagan’s which was released years afters his terms ended.
      > He isn’t brilliant, he was the least qualified
      That hasn’t stopped other people from becoming President, just referring you to the washed-out ex-actor Reagan or the alarmingly illiterate GW Bush.
      > He was elected for one reason only. It’s his complexion.
      You assume that millions of white Americans vote for a candidate because he is black? That would, beyond all reason, assume that people thought “if I don’t vote for a black candidate, I must be a racist” although no-one will ever know who said person voted for.
      Besides, if that were correct, why didn’t Alan Keyes or Jesse Jackson won when they ran for office?
      More inconsequential “reasoning”…

       
      • “Please elaborate which previous Presidents have released said records while they were still in office. I still haven’t seen any President’s birth certificate, except Reagan’s which was released years afters his terms ended.”
        A quick 5-minute search found two instances:
        1. Dwight Eisenhower did.
        2. And when his “natural born citizenship” was questioned in the 2008 presidential campaign, John McCain released both his short-form and his long-form birth certificates. You can see them HERE.
        I suggest that you, lms (whose previous alias is The Magic M), next time you open your big arrogant mouth, make sure you have your facts straight.

         

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