Navy Vet Evicted for Flying the Flag – Update

Please scroll down for an Update! We won this battle. 😀

Edward Zivica puts up the American flag


A Navy veteran was served an eviction notice because he put up an American flag in his apartment complex on Navy Day.
Kristina Nelson of KVAL News reports, Nov. 2, 2011, that the apartment management company delivered the eviction notice to Edward Zivica after he hung the Old Glory in a common area at the Springfield, Ore., complex. If he doesn’t agree to refrain from any more such flag displays, the complex would evict him by midnight Nov. 29.
Zivica said he’s been displaying the flag for at least a year on holidays such as Veteran’s Day and Memorial Day. “They said nothing about it and so I figured, well, maybe they understand now that I’m only putting it up on special days,” said Zivica.
But when he hung it up on Oct. 27 for Navy Day, his landlord took it down and served him with an eviction notice.
The apartment management insists that the flag eviction is not due to a lack of patriotism. Terry McDonald, the CEO of St. Vincent de Paul, the management company, told KVAL that the eviction notice was for “hanging something outside the building without permission. If you’re going to live in a situation where there’s lots of other tenants, you need to follow the rules that are set up.”
To which Zivica responded: “I’m not doing something so terrible.”
The apartment complex had installed a lit flag pole outside the building after it was requested by some tenants. But Zivica criticized the pole, saying it lacks a pulley system, hence you can’t lower the flag to half mast. So instead he went back to hanging his flag on the building.
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I found St. Vincent de Paul’s (SVDP) very detailed (absolutely no pets!) 12-page “Housing Rules and Regulations Manual” (click here). Nowhere do I see a rule forbidding the flying of the American flag anywhere in an SVDP apartment complex. There is no such rule in the paragraph on “Common Areas”, on page 5. Nor is the American flag mentioned as one of the reasons to evict in the section on “Removal from SVDP Complex,” on page 8.

Terry McDonald


Here’s the phone number for Terry McDonald, Executive Director of St. Vincent de Paul:

(541) 687-5820 x 125

You can also send him an e-mail via the SVDP’s Contact Form, here. This is the message I wrote on the Contact Form (feel free to copy & paste to use as yours):

To: Terry McDonald
       Executive Director
       St. Vincent de Paul

I am writing you to protest your treatment of Navy veteran Edward Zivica. You claim that he’s being evicted because he didn’t follow the rules when he put up an American flag in his apartment complex. But, in SVDP’s very detailed 12-page “Housing Rules and Regulations Manual” (http://www.svdp.us/assets/sitefiles/rules_regulation_2009.pdf), nowhere do I see a rule forbidding the flying of the American flag anywhere in an SVDP apartment complex. There is no such rule in the paragraph on “Common Areas”, on page 5. Nor is the American flag mentioned as one of the reasons to evict in the section on “Removal from SVDP Complex,” on page 8.

UPDATE (Nov. 4, 2011):

A day after I’d sent the above e-mail to SVDP, I received this reply:

Thank you very much for your email. We would like to share the following updated information. This morning our tenant agreed to provide a list of dates when he would like to fly his flag. St. Vincent de Paul granted him permission to fly the flag on those dates, provided it is done in a manner that’s respectful to the flag and our other tenants. In accordance with the rules of the complex, St. Vincent de Paul will be happy to grant permission to put an additional American flag at the complex if tenants inform us in advance.

Our tenant feels this issue is resolved, and we are pleased to have reached a resolution to this issue. This was never an issue about patriotism or respect for veterans.  St. Vincent de Paul sponsors numerous emergency assistance, housing and job training opportunities for veterans. This was never about the American flag;  a lit American flag flies on a flagpole at the complex 24/7. We are pleased that this issue has been resolved and we sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding.  Please contact us if you have more questions or want more information. Thank you again,

Tamara Andreas
Development Associate 
tandreas@svdp.us

541.687.5820×144; Direct 743.7144
541.683.9423

~Eowyn

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0 responses to “Navy Vet Evicted for Flying the Flag – Update

  1. “Operation Ole’Glory” every American and every American business,needs to display an “American Flag” especially for Veteran’s Day,11-11-11.

     
  2. We need have a special day of protest by veterans in front of office & home of Terry McDonald.
    I am a Navy veteran and I take great offence to this weasels sidestepping statement.
    He needs to understand or at least know this will not be tollerated anywhere anymore.

     
    • Couldn’t agree more Mike! Having been in a family with a rich long line of Navy service, I am appalled as well to this crap. It has gotten waaay out of hand, for far too long now! grr

       
  3. I too am a Veteran, and Terry McDonald should be ashamed of his NON-PATRIOTIC actions. This is appalling and down right UNAMERICAN of his actions. If this weasel wanted negative attention, he has gotton it. I feel the entire city of Springfield should sit on his front lawn displaying the American Flay. How dare Mr. McDonald say to Mr. Edward Zivica “Your going to be evicted because your not conforming to the rules of the apartment complex”. Mr. McDonald, it doesn’t matter if your regulations state that or not!! If you do not like my country, LEAVE IT, go somewhere else. Take your NON-PATRIOTIC A___ somewhere else!!!

     
  4. This is sickening! Especially since St. Vincent de Paul said, “Be kind, be kind, be kind and you will be a saint.” No kindness here from this lukewarm manager. He does not represent the tenets of our Catholic Faith and he makes me sick! I will be calling him today!

     
  5. This is really strange. Whose side are these guys on? Fight for your country and you get kicked in the …..

     
  6. Sue the bitches!!!!!

     
  7. I think the American Flag should be exempt from all local ordinances. Nobody should ever suffer in any way just because they displayed the flag.

     
  8. This is so outrageous. The landlords must be a closet socialist, a democrat and hates america and conservatives. What a sour puss!!!

     
  9. I come from a huge military family, and as such, I cannot post what I am thinking right now, as my “F” key would never survive.
    No joke – things like this makes my blood positively boil.
    And I won’t even get into what it does to my already too-high BP.
    -Dave

     
  10. Put up a Mexican flag…the management company wouldn’t dare mess with you.
    Which is why I laid off all my employees in the U.S. and I am moving overseas. Good luck with your socialism!

     
  11. I’ve known Terry for many years. I’d like to see him man up and do the right thing in this one instance. Terry you will be a better man for it.

     
  12. What an outrage. Another egregious event was the payout of $75,000 to the Muslim school teacher who wanted 3 weeks to visit Mecca mid-semester.

     
  13. HardToBeOutraged

    Please get a grip. This isn’t his property folks. The landlord can implement any rules he likes and yes, the tenants have to follow them. This is America … you’re free to do as you like on your own property. Not on others. Deal with it.

     
    • Not his property but property in the USA. We understand private property owners have the right to determine their own rules. Betcha if this was a Muslim wanting to fly a flag from their “home country”, the ACLU and CAIR would be behind them 100%.
      Free to do what you want on your own property? Think again…
      http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/no-treehouse-for-you/
      http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/want-a-treehouse-on-your-property/
      http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/no-lemon-tree-for-you/
      http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/no-veggie-garden-for-you/

       
    • Proud Daughter of a Retired Marine

      HardToBeOutraged – ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? This is AMERICA! I agree with the comment above about making Old Glory exempt from local ordinances. What a brilliant, honorable and patriotic idea! This is America and to be told we can not fly the American flag (and this man was doing it to honor his father and on holidays such as Veteran’s Day – he was not flying it every day) is disgraceful and shameful. “The landlord can implement and rules he likes” is not even a true statement! You may think you can do as you like on your own property but you are sadly mistaken and, apparently, ill-informed. Regardless, all Americans should be allowed to fly our country’s flag!! Deal with it? I think we are …by addressing this atrocity and not remaining passive.

       
      • Proud Daughter of a Retired Marine

        UPDATE – I called SVDP earlier this morning and left a message for Terry McDonald expressing my concern and outrage over this. I asked him to please call me back and explain this action and I stated that I’d hoped this was a vicious rumor. Well, I just received a very nice phone call from Rebecca at SVDP thanking me for my concern and for my respectful phone call. She explained what is outlined in the 11/04/11 update shown above (posted by Eowyn). I very much appreciated the time they took to address this (I even understand not receiving a call from Mr. McDonald himself) – she said they have many, many phone calls to return…some received were very hateful…but she said they are returning all calls. This is a very personal subject and emotions can run high – but there is no need for hateful calls or emails – those usually only serve to stir things up or cause further division. Rarely do they lead to a favorable outcome. I applaud SVDP for addressing this and coming to what appears to be a positive resolution for all.

         
  14. These kind of atrocities against our vets never seem to not make my blood boil. I have quite a number of Flags, one of them only flies once a year and at sundown is correctly folded put in it’s special case until next pearl Harbor day, Yes it flew from the USS Arizona. My family goes back in this country since before the revolution and we have been involved every time our country was threatened. I salute those vets in the national cemetery where I live every time I go by and say thank you gentleman. Keep the flag flying folks. We need to get our country back from the loons who have hijacked it like this miscreants that seems to be confused as to what country he lives in. God save the “REPUBLIC”!

     
  15. Hi, I work at St. Vincent de Paul and the tenant has not been evicted. This was never an issue about the American flag, patriotism or respect for veterans. A lit American flag flies on a flagpole at the complex 24/7 as a way for us to show respect for our veterans and our country. This was simply a procedural issue about how the common space at our apartment complex was used.
    This morning Mr. Zivica agreed to provide a list of dates when he would like to fly his flag. St. Vincent de Paul granted him permission to fly the flag on those dates.
    We are pleased that this issue has been resolved and we sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding. St. Vincent de Paul sponsors numerous emergency assistance, housing and job training opportunities for veterans. Please check our website, http://www.svdp.us, for future updates.

     
  16. I just received an e-mail from St. Vincent de Paul (SVDP), the property manager for the Navy vet’s apartment complex. SVDP is backing off: “This morning our tenant agreed to provide a list of dates when he would like to fly his flag. St. Vincent de Paul granted him permission to fly the flag on those dates.”
    We won this little battle! Thanks to all who called or e-mailed SVDP! 😀

     
  17. Seeing their response to the initial email makes me wonder what tenant would be offended by the AMERICAN FLAG, if they dont like the flag or the country let them move back to whatever sewer hole they moved here from. I am a Navy Vet and am damn proud of being one so anybody that disrespects any vets from any service needs to get a dose of mudhole stomping

     

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