More Questions to Ask About Osama bin Laden's Death

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Here’s a follow-up on my post of last night, “Questions to Ask About Osama bin Laden Death.”

Question #1:

Why is the press (see Daily Mail and Telegraph) posting pics of a dead Osama bin Laden which is a fake photoshop that has been circulating on the Internet for years?

How do we know this? Because the same “death” photo had been featured in a story released over a year ago.

Question #2: What happened to his body?

When the news broke yesterday evening that US forces had captured and killed Osama bin Laden, we were told that the 9-11 mastermind “was killed a week ago by a US bomb,” that “he was shot and killed by ground US forces in Pakistan,” and that “a House Intelligence committee aide confirms that the United States has the body.”
Upon awaking this morning, I discovered a radically different version. We are now told that we no longer have bin Laden’s corpse. Instead, the body is already buried at sea! From the AP:

“A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea. After bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world’s most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea. The official, who spoke Monday on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security matters, did not immediately say where that occurred.”

This means those of us who are just a tad skeptical about what the Obama administration tells us will have to just take the nontransparent administration’s word that (a) The body was really Osama bin Laden’s ’cause alleged DNA tests prove it!; and (b) The corpse was a “fresh” one, instead of a long-refrigerated specimen.
Alas, the Wikipedia article on “Islamic Funeral” does not say that Muslim practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours. This is what Wiki says:

“sharia (Islamic religious law) calls for burial of the body, preceded by a simple ritual involving bathing and shrouding the body, followed by salah (prayer). Cremation of the body is forbidden. Burial rituals should normally take place as soon as possible and include:

  • Bathing the dead body, except in extraordinary circumstances….
  • Enshrouding dead body in a white cotton or linen cloth.
  • Funeral prayer.
  • Burial of the dead body in a grave.
  • Positioning the deceased so that the head is faced towards Mecca.”

In other words, Sharia law does NOT mandate that the dead must be buried within 24 hours. However, Sharia law DOES mandate that the corpse be buried in a grave, that is, in the ground instead of at sea. I can think of at least one reason why Muslims don’t bury their dead at sea. The dead is supposed to be buried with the head facing towards Mecca — something that just can’t be done if the body is dumped into the sea.
In fact, according to al-Islam.org, Sharia law specifically instructs the following:

“620. * It is obligatory to bury a dead body in the ground, so deep that its smell does not come out and the beasts of prey do not dig it out, and, if there is a danger of such beasts digging it out then the grave should be made solid with bricks, etc.

621. If it is not possible to bury a dead body in the ground, it may be kept in a vault or a coffin, instead.

In other words, what we are told by the Obama administration — that bin Laden’s body was “buried at sea” to abide by Muslim traditions — is bupkus, A LIE.
Lastly, since when does the United States bury the body of an enemy combatant in accordance with the enemy’s religious strictures?
H/t May, Steve, and Joan!
~Eowyn

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0 responses to “More Questions to Ask About Osama bin Laden's Death

  1. Eowyn has morphed once again into the sharp-eyed sleuth who lets nothing escape her careful scrutiny. OBL has been killed so many times he is clearly the current master of spectral resurrection.

     
  2. I reckon it’s a distraction so the Obamanation can pull off another unConstitutional gambit. What say ye?

     
    • Joseph–I would say you have hit the nail on the head. When I heard about this early this AM, I knew it was a hoax fabricated by our honest and above reproach leaders, but I felt like I was probably alone. That said, I just returned from lunch and errands aroud our small mountain town. The owner of an I talian cafe where I had lunch came over and discussed it with me. She does not believe it for a second. Next, I went to get an inspection sticker at a local garage. When I walk in, the local owner says, We are taking a survey here today… He never finished telling me what the survey was about. I knew, and I was correct. Our whole town is abuzz about what a farce this whole thing is. Yes, this is the South and yes, we are conservative, but people are questioning!

       
  3. ok, so in the midst of all this genuflecting and lauding the praises of “Our Leader”, during this, pardon my french…colossal Mind F%^& that is taking place and taking over the airwaves…..
    besides coming to this blog, what can one do?
    I refuse to turn on the TV…except for HGTV in the studio and my poor husband is depressed and says Rush says this will ensure Obamas’ re-election, I say that’s 18 months away and he must have felt pretty threatened to play his “trump” card so early in the game…..
    but, fellow warriors and koolaid eschewers, how do we fight?

     
    • Artist,
      We fight by doing what we’ve been doing these past 2+ years: With the Truth.
      Knowing full well that by continuing to speak the truth, we’ll now be called even viler names than before. Already, a “friend” of mine to whom I sent my first post, “Questions to ask about Osama bin Laden death,” calls me “Lunacy” and “toxin.”
      I quote my dear friend Tony Whitcomb, aka “Expotera”: “Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?” ~Galatians 4:16

       
  4. It’s all bullcrap.
    This is a “catalyst” event – or a major diversion for something else. Watch for something in the near future which will result in more Government control. I don’t have any inside knowledge or connections, just going with my gut here.

     
  5. The needle on Dave’s smell meter has been moving steadily to the right since last night.
    Honestly, I don’t know what to believe, if anything, from this particular White House.
    And I still go back to the fact that Osama, a confirmed media whore dog, just suddenly decided to up and stop making those threatening videos by choice back around 2002, shortly after which two reports surfaced that Osama had gone Tango Uniform due either to natural causes, or was offed by a fellow Islamist?
    My gut tells me it was probably the former.
    There is a reason those vids stopped turning up, and I think this is the most important aspect of all this.
    The other thing I find curious is how many conflicting reports came flooding out all about the same time last night.
    Maybe it was the latest White House version of Operation KAOS, which has been their preferred MO since Day One.
    Who knows?
    -Dave

     
  6. Don’t worry just like the “birther” issue we will all be told to shut up and accept it for what it is. (this will be coming from the conservative side) and give Obama this one little prop.

     
  7. Will,
    You are exactly right.
    There are just too many on our side who stay awake nights worrying about what the lefties think and say about them.
    The truth just doesn’t seem to matter much.
    -Dave

     
  8. Candance Moore

    Doesn’t the Bible mention someone who is mortally wounded but then somehow keeps resurfacing? Just saying….

     
  9. Been watching a little television and listening to the banter about this. Here’s where my thoughts go –
    1. The very face of terrorism is now dead and out of the picture. Obama is the hero.
    2. Now that Bin Laden is gone, there is a sense of “closure” with many Americans (the sheeple). Obama has a reason to begin bringing the troops home – a yet-to-be fulfilled campaign promise. Obama is the hero.
    3. The troops are home and can be redeployed elsewhere, like Iran or Korea, or domestically, where their years of house-to-house sweeps and civil police action experience will prove useful, once natural disasters, economic collapse, or insurrection call for martial law.

     
  10. Guys and gals- he’s dead. He died yesterday just like the reports have said. How do I know? Well, I don’t really. But I think we’ve all got to settle down on the conspiracy theories. There is no way the administration would have risked the backlash in the Islamic world that is sure to follow and completely beyond our control for the sake of politics, 18 months before the election. An October surprise? Maybe. But not a May-the-year-before surprise.
    Take heart in knowing that our military and intelligence professionals performed flawlessly. Remember that Obama just happened to be the guy giving the thumbs up and that his decision was surely swayed by the military and CIA, without whom this never would have gone off. Also take heart that an evil man is no more. Anyone saying Obama has a leg up on Bush because of this would have to make the argument that Bush would not have given the same order. They surely can’t do that.
    And if you want some political fodder, think about all those kids -college-aged kids- that Obama and his team are counting on to vote for him come 2012. Think about how thrilled they are that Obama just ended the war on terror. Yeah, that’s right. That’s what they think. They think it’s over. And yet, it’s a long way from over. It won’t be over in November 2012 and all of those enthusiastic college kids in DC and around the country will be wondering- “why can’t I find a job and why the hell are we still fighting these wars?”
    In two weeks this will be a distant memory in the news -until Obama tries to use it in his re-election campaign and reminds all those anti-war collegians and pacifist lefties in his base that even after killing OBL, he’s still a warmonger. Karma.
    Obama’s toast. Let him enjoy the few moments of praise he has left. And let us all enjoy the image of OBL being torn apart by bottom-dwellers in the Arabian Sea. In the war on terror, this is a good thing.

     
    • Great points BK…especially the last paragraph!

       
    • “Let him enjoy the few moments of praise he has left.”
      Maybe that is what is really getting under my skin about this.
      -Dave

       
    • “In two weeks this will be a distant memory in the news -until Obama tries to use it in his re-election campaign and reminds all those anti-war collegians and pacifist lefties in his base that even after killing OBL, he’s still a warmonger.”
      Bob, do you really think the Left will desert Obama in 2012 and vote for the GOP or Independent prez candidate? They’ll stay with him. Unlike principled Conservatives who will not support a RINO, the Left will vote for “their” man, irrespective of his betrayal of their cherished beliefs.

       
      • Eowyn,
        I doubt the left will abandon Obama in 2012 as well, as he has moved this country far closer (as well as much faster) to their ultimate goal than FDR, Johnson, and Jihad Jimmy combined was ever able to even think about.
        -Dave

         
      • Maybe Eo, but I don’t think he can count on the youth. They didn’t turn out last November, and they’re not traditionally a large voting bloc anyway. But he drew them out in ’08. I think they’ll sit home this time around and that will make a big difference given he only beat McRINO by 7 points.
        What you have to figure here is that the media adds the equivalent of at least 10 points for Obama in their reporting; which is a blatant falsification of the reality. He’s not doing well and this thing is not going to propel him to victory 18 months in advance -regardless of the spin. I say two weeks from now the bounce is 3 points and trending downward.
        His record is abysmal. He’s turned mightily against his base. And while GOP candidates certainly won’t run ads saying “Hey, I’ll get you single-payer”, the non-affiliated groups can certainly run ads that say, “Hey, don’t forget who didn’t get you single-payer. Oh, and by the way high-school seniors, don’t forget to fill out your selective service card, we’re still fighting three wars, you know.”
        I think we should be vigilant in our opposition, but we should be celebratory that OBL is fish food. We deserve that. George Bush deserves that. After all, we know who enabled the intelligence gathering in the first place. Barry’s touchdown catch is just the result of an excellent pass.
        By the way- I am keenly aware that my positions lately may seem quite moderate. I assure you that is not the case. I’m as adamant as ever that dumbo needs to go, but I’m also aware of the lessons of Sharon Angle and Christine O’Donnell; no circular firing squads. I think we should vote our values in the primary, but steadfastly support the winner in the general without destroying our friends, even if they haven’t quite made it all the way over to our side of the field yet. Given my preference, I’d like the GOP debate answers to all begin with, “Well, Mr. Moderator, I understand why GOP candidate X proposes that position and while I agree with it in part, I would modify it thusly…” Rather than the “well, you’re an idiot birther so you can’t be trusted” or the counter, “you probably still believe that LFBC was real. Loser.”
        I hope that makes sense. It’s been a rough couple of weeks around here.

         
        • Candance Moore

          Bob,
          I’m quite sure that no matter how many conservatives end their fire, the shots will continue from the center, because that’s what RINOs do.

           
  11. Thomas Morato

    How long will it take for the government to stage and release the video of the Navy conducting the burial-at-sea to surface?
    Since day one, I have been called nuts… so let them continue.
    Within hours of the attack on 9/11 the media (with no official investigation) was throwing around Bin Laden’s name as the one responsible. This is impossible without prior knowledge. If there was prior knowledge, why was the attack allowed to happen?
    Who feeds the media (particularly the Associated Press) their information? Answer that question and you have the answer to who was behind the attacks.
    I believe this latest “psyops” attempt by the government is going to be a catalyst for a near future attack and/or more security implementations by the TSA. Which will then lead the US into yet another costly war.

     
  12. Eo – a follow up:
    Here’s the Daily Beast exemplifying my point. The War on Terror is Over.
    Yeah, keep thinking that kiddies. When it’s not and it’s time to vote again, who are they going to blame? Bush? Don’t forget, Obama’s anti-war stance was hugely popular in ’08 and rode him to victory among the youth. Bye bye youth.

     
  13. I personally believe that flushing bin laden’s carcass down USS Carl Vincen bilge and holding it there until all Sailors, Marines, Soldiers, etc. had a chance to show proper honor & respect by dropping their respective deuces down the heads. It would have been the proper way for our warriors to pay their respects.

     
  14. The same good folks that brought us ramped body counts in Vietnam, Pat Tillman fiction, Sadam’s WMDs…an invisible “in full sight” Murree Hill Station compound with 18 foot walls. Sure.
    In real time: trillion dollar US militarty/security budgets are headed higher..with a little extra for OPEC and the Seven Sisters…$teroids for NATO.
    Alas what to do with NATOHello!

     
  15. First, Sharia law DOS call for burial within 24 hours unless family calls for the body to be preserved.
    Second, Sharia law DOES call for burial at sea under very special circumstances. One of these special circumstances is if there is a legitimate fear that the body will later be desecrated by enemies of the deceased.
    Cremation is strictly forbidden.
    Obviously . . . there is a long line of people who would love to piss on Bin Laden’s grave. So his burial at sea was definitely in accordance with Sharia Law and fully exhibits U.S. ability to take the moral high ground by respecting Muslim belief’s.
    In the calculus of it you have two options. 1) Reassure the American people that Bin Laden is dead but at the same time risk inciting more extremists. Or 2) Respect the religious beliefs of extremists and let conspiracy theorists have their fun on the internet.
    Obviously, the second decision saved more lives. And the author is simply incorrect. The burial WAS in accordance with extremely conservative Sharia laws.
    And as with any conspiracy theory. . . people always overlook the most obvious consideration of all. Let’s suppose for a moment that the U.S. government DID lie about Bin Laden’s death and burial. . . then how are they going to explain it when Bin Laden inevitably publishes another propaganda video with an up-to-date copy of the New York times?
    Your conspiracy theorists are just so darn funny.

     

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