Military tribunals and Trump dissuaded against ordering the prosecution of Hillary Clinton

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump and his “deplorable” supporters repeatedly called for “locking up” Hillary Clinton for her illegal use of a private email server when she was Obama’s secretary of state.

If you’ve wondered why President Trump hadn’t “locked her up,” you should know it is not for his lack of will.

Citing second-hand hearsay, Michael Schmidt and Maggie Haberman of the New York Times reported yesterday that in spring of this year, President Trump attempted to have Hillary Clinton and former FBI director James Comey prosecuted by the Justice Department, but was dissuaded by White House counsel Donald McGahn — “according to two people familiar with the conversation”.

McGahn warned President Trump he had no authority to order a prosecution and warned that the move could lead to impeachment.

Mr. McGahn’s lawyer, William A. Burck, said: “Mr. McGahn will not comment on his legal advice to the president. Like any client, the president is entitled to confidentiality. Mr. McGahn would point out, though, that the president never, to his knowledge, ordered that anyone prosecute Hillary Clinton or James Comey.”

Does this mean Hillary will never be prosecuted?

Military tribunals in the United States are military courts designed to try members of enemy forces during wartime, operating outside the scope of conventional criminal and civil proceedings. The judges are military officers and fulfill the role of jurors. Military tribunals are not courts martial. The Military Commissions Act of 2006 limits military tribunal trials to non-citizens only.

But on September 5, 2018, during Day 2 of the Senate confirmation hearing for Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) asked Kavanaugh a series of very interesting questions that seem to make a case for American citizens being subject to military tribunals.

Here’s my transcript of the Graham-Kavanaugh Q & A:

Graham: So when somebody says, post-9/11, that we’d been at war, and it’s called the War on Terrorism, do you generally agree with that concept?

Kavanaugh: I do, senator, because Congress passed the authorization for use of military force, which is still in effect. That was passed, of course, on September 14, 2001, three days later.

Graham: Let’s talk about the law and war. Is there a body of law called the law of armed conflict?

Kavanaugh: There is such a body, senator.

Graham: A body of law that’s called basic criminal law?

Kavanaugh: Yes, senator.

Graham: Are there differences between those two bodies of law?

Kavanaugh: Yes, senator.

Graham: From an American citizen’s point of view, do your constitutional rights follow you? If you’re in Paris, does the Fourth Amendment protect you as an American from your own government?

Kavanaugh: From your own government, yes.

Graham: So, if you’re in Afghanistan, do your constitutional rights protect you against your own government?

Kavanaugh: If you’re an American in Afghanistan, you have constitutional rights as against the U.S. government.

Graham: Isn’t there also a long settled law that goes back to the Eisentrager case (I can’t remember the name of it)….

Kavanaugh: Johnson v. Eisentrager.

Graham: Right, that American citizens who collaborate with the enemy are considered enemy combatants?

Kavanaugh: They can be, they’re often, sometimes criminally prosecuted, sometimes treated in the military.

Graham: Let’s talk about can be. I think there’s a Supreme Court decision that said that American citizens who collaborated with Nazi saboteurs were tried by the military, is that correct?

Kavanaugh: That is correct.

Graham: I think a couple of them were executed.

Kavanaugh: Yeah.

Graham: So, if anybody doubts there’s a longstanding history in this country that your constitutional rights follow you wherever you go, but you don’t have a constitutional right to turn on your own government and collaborate with the enemy of the nation. You’ll be treated differently. What’s the name of the case, if you can recall, that reaffirmed the concept that you can hold one of our own as an enemy combatant if they were engaged in terrorist activities in Afghanistan. Are you familiar with that case?

Kavanaugh: Yes, Hamdi [v. Rumsfeld].

Graham: So the bottom line is on every American citizen know you have constitutional rights, but you do not have a constitutional right to collaborate with the enemy. There is a body of law well developed long before 9/11 that understood the difference between basic criminal law and the law of armed conflict. Do you understand those difference?

Kavanaugh: I do understand that there are different bodies of law of course, senator.

Interestingly, both Mark Taylor (the firefighter prophet who predicted Trump’s presidency in 2011) and former CIA officer Robert David Steele believe the Left’s rabid but unsuccessful takedown of now Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was because of their fear of military tribunals.

Beginning at the 2:13 mark, Mark Taylor said:

“We just gotta walk in faith right now. With everything that is coming, people need to prepare themselves for what’s coming…. The Kavanaugh thing — everybody thought that it was about Roe versus Wade. Well it is, but it isn’t. You have to go back to the line of questioning that Lindsey Graham did. I’m paraphrasing: he asked him [Kavanaugh] in front of the entire nation. He said if a civilian is charged with treason, can they be charged under civil law or military law, and he said military law.

Sure, that was a nuclear bomb that went off in the spirit for the enemy, for the Cabal, the elites, the globalists, everyone who’s been in the corruption in this country who’s a leader and abroad…. That sent shock waves…. They were disguising it as Roe versus Wade, trying to pull on people’s emotions and their heartstrings, ‘Oh no, we can’t get rid of Roe versus Wade!”. It had nothing to do with that from these elites, people like Dianne Feinstein. It had nothing to do with that. It had everything to do with the military tribunals that are coming. They know they needed a solid 5-4 [Supreme Court] vote because he [Kavanaugh] was replacing a swing vote [Anthony Kennedy] if you remember. Now, [with Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court] we have a solid 5-4 vote for anything that would come up through the Supreme Court right now and that’s what the President needed in place….

The second that Kavanaugh is confirmed, the clock starts. When he got confirmed, the clock has started. So now all these things that are starting to take place, you’re starting to see movement now, even publicly you’re starting to see movement. There was some stuff on Jeff Sessions today…. Now comes the pain. Pain is coming for these people, the justice is fixing to be served. So we have to be patient and just realize there’s a plan in place, but this Kavanaugh, Judge Kavanaugh, was a huge, huge deal.”

Beginning at the 12:30 mark in the video above, Steele is asked what is the real reason why the Democrats went after Kavanaugh. Steele said:

“This is not about Roe v Wade, this is about military tribunals…. Senator Lindsey Graham had that exchange with him [Kavanaugh]…. John McCain was executed and Lindsey Graham was pardoned, okay. [Ohio governor] John Kasich was on CNN saying McCain was executed, alright. Bottom line: McCain is dead and Lindsey Graham is now the apple of Donald Trump’s eye….

McCain sold out to the Saudis, to the Israelis, to a whole bunch of other people. McCain sold out on the POWs. McCain supported Hillary Clinton in selling Syria and Yemen to Saudi Arabia, and selling Libya to the French, and selling Uranium One to Russia. McCain and [Hillary] Clinton were actually much, much closer than people realized. He was essentially a traitor to the United States of America at mutiple levels across decades.

Lindsey Graham has had his issues, but if you look at Lindsey Graham carefully right now, you will see that he has made his peace with Donald Trump and he is now rendering vital service to the nation and God bless him…. In my humble opinion, Lindsey Graham has been born again, all is forgiven. He is now serving the Republic in a very, very important way. And the reason Kavanaugh is being taken down is because the deep state which relies heavily on the Democrats is terrified of military tribunals. We are still in a state of war. Technically, the United States is in a state of war.”

Indeed, on September 6, 2018, interviewed by CNN’s Chris Cuomo, Ohio Governor John Kasich said: “Its like 24 hours since John McCain was put to death“. See my post, “Did John McCain really die from brain cancer?“.

See also:

Meanwhile, in October Defense Secretary James Mattis named Col. Douglas K. Watkins, 56, as Guantanamo’s new chief war court judge. Watkins, who has experience in handling terrorism cases, succeeded Army Col. James L. Pohl who had been chief Gitmo judge until he retired in September.

Judge Watkins has served for 37 years in the Army. He enlisted after high school in 1981 and has been an active duty MP as well as a combat engineer in the Texas National Guard. He got a law degree at Texas Tech University in Lubbock and was commissioned as a judge advocate in 1995.

Military Commissions judges are drawn from a pool of all four services and serve at Gitmo as an extra duty — meaning they commute to the U.S. base in southeast Cuba for hearings and trials. (Military.com)

One last thing:

Sen. Lindsey Graham will be Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee in the upcoming 116th Congress, beginning January 3, 2019, where Republicans are rid of RINOs John McCain and Jeff Flake and will have an even bigger majority (53-47) in the Senate.

~Eowyn

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Maryaha

I pray about this every day, and I have for at least a year now. We need justice in this country again. I don’t think we will ever recover until justice is brought to those who have tried to destroy us.

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As much as I dislike HRC and all the members of the so called “Deep State”.
I don’t think anyone will go to jail that is just not our system works today.
The normal, everyday person who works hard, pays taxes and stays out of trouble would go to jail. We are just peasants. The bad actors will get away without serving one day in jail.

Steven Broiles
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It would seem to me, after all is said and done, that President Trump was elected, in part, in a mandate to prosecute all those persons whose actions have merited it, and that this maintains regardless of my personal hatred for any of those actors. President Trump was elected in a mandate, in part, to prosecute the Clintons and former President Obama. If he fails to fulfill this mandate, not only would he forfeit a continuance of that mandate in re-election, but he would forfeit his credibility. Not only this, any failure to prosecute would embolden the ruling criminal cabal… Read more »

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I think that if a few of The Deep State Gang were to Suddenly be “Arkancided” or have “Unfortunate Accidents” then those players would have to wonder who’s pulling the Strings. Start with Soros & work your way down the List – maybe throw in a Rothschild for Good Measure. Target Every Stripe of Demon regardless of whose side it gores. Watch the Panic Set In – some will be Begging Trump for Protection. Pray to Jesus Pray for Trump Be Prepared to Fight Like a Crusader!

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I “KNOW” there is a way, IF there is a will. This hair-splitting over whether Trump has authority to do this or that is amusing. There was no such “hair-splitting” related to his predecessor. The simple truth is that one either assumes the Presidency or doesn’t. If a President does not “expressly” have authority to do something, he gets the one who does to do it for him. As I’ve said repeatedly (and don’t see any reason to stop), he needs to stop telling them what HE’S GOING TO DO, and start telling them “WHAT HE DID”. The “tribunal” idea… Read more »

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Thanks for the education re Military Tribunals. That 2006 law is probably a good thing. Otherwise, if/when the Commies fully take over, they would have all of us, per our comments, tweets, etc., arrested as “enemy combatants” against the “state.” Re: McGahn & his lousy legal advice to Potus, he’s no longer around so hopefully Trump is getting better advice now. As for McCain’s death, though well deserved, being “put to death” is not necessarily the same as being “executed” per orders of a military tribunal. Hospice “puts to death” people all the time, especially those with cancer, dementia, terminals… Read more »

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Tim Shey
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Dr. Eowyn: Here is something that you might like to see:

The Clinton Kill List
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfzr3l6tBDY