Michael Savage is a horse’s arse – Part 2

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2 Rolls Of Duct Tape needed.

OK, Last we heard Savage might have went round the bend. Ladies and Gents, he is now certifiable.  He makes 2 statements. One is about a racial slur Zimm says on tape and the weenie bleeps it out and puts his own racist meaning in.

Thanks to FOTM reader Mother124 Here is great link of audio blowing “Racial “Coons” Theroy  out of water. Wrong again Savage.  http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ceb_1333635188

He says we must find Zimm guilty because Zimms gun was loaded. One in the chamber and safety off. Says If it wasn’t Martin would still be alive. He’s right. And Zimmerman would be dead you  moron

Say What?

If Zimm did not carry HOT That night He was Dead. All Police FBI. Etc Carry Hot.  Some, I’d say Most people carry Hot myself included.. How you carry is a personal decision. I’m just glad you do.

For those that don’t let me explain. It is not Hollywood. When you carry a gun you carry “HOT” Which means one in the chamber and safety off. Why? Because if a situation arises as I say it is not “Hollywood where you see the guy Racking the gun and putting one in. If you have to do that and fumble for a safety you are dead. By then bad guy has shot you three times.


Jeff Poor                              http://dailycaller.com

Media Reporter              11:04 AM 07/04/2013

On his show on Tuesday night, talk show host Michael Savage said that George Zimmerman, who is currently on trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin, should be found guilty of second-degree manslaughter based on two things: 1) The state of his firearm and 2) The language he allegedly used on a 911 call when he was first reporting his suspicions about Martin.

But first Savage explained why his insight should be valued over others in the media covering the trial.

“I’m about to break an analysis that no one yet in the media has done, as you would expect from me — being the senior member of the American media and possibly the most insightful,” Savage said. “And I have to blow my own horn because everyone else tries to break my horn.”

“I will tell you that I broke the case down as follows,” Savage continued. “You want to hear it, or don’t you want to hear it? I know your mind is made up: White people generally think Zimmerman is innocent, except for liberals who are sure he is guilty; black people probably to the 99th percentile are sure Zimmerman’s a murderer. So where does Michael Savage fit in? I’m an independent observer and I call them as I see them, and I think Zimmerman committed what he’s being charged with: manslaughter. He didn’t intend to kill him, but he may as well have intended to kill him.”

avage laid out his case, saying that the murder could have been avoided, but based on Zimmerman’s gun having a round in the chamber with the safety off, Zimmerman intended “to find some he could shoot or intimidate.”

“Zimmerman was carrying a Kel Tec semi-automatic 9mm handgun,” Savage said. “So? Big deal. It is a big deal because he had a bullet chambered in the gun and he had the safety off… Had he not chambered a round prior to meeting Trayvon, and had he not taken the safety off, even if Trayvon, during the altercation even if Trayvon had tried to grab the gun away from Zimmerman — had that gun not been chambered with a round and safety off, Trayvon Martin would have had to use two hands. You can’t do it with one hand.”

“Many of you don’t own guns,” Savage said. “He would have had to let go of Zimmerman. He would have had to stop punching him. He would have had to take both hands on the gun, hold the pistol grip with one, pull the top back to chamber a round and then he would have had to unlock the safety, during which time the mixed-martial-artist-in-training Mr. Zimmerman would have had time to throw him off and pound the hell out of him. But because Zimmerman carried a loaded weapon with the safety off, Trayvon Martin is dead. Therefore, the responsibility is in the hands of Zimmerman.

“I don’t care which side you are on,” Savage continued. “He wasn’t just carrying a gun, he wasn’t just a watch guy: He was hunting. He was looking, he was hoping to find someone he could shoot or intimidate with that loaded weapon, ladies and gentlemen of the Savage jury.”

In addition to that, Savage said the controversial 911 call was also damning.

“[Z]immerman says the back entrance and under his breath, he can be heard saying ‘f-ing,’ and the first word is ‘f—ing;’ the second word begins with a ‘c’ and ends with ‘ns,’” Savage said. “I didn’t make that up. It’s on the 911 tape. And I’m afraid that the fact that he has this racist statement — made this racist statement on the 911 call — and that he was carry a loaded gun with a bullet in the chamber and the safety off, you have to find this man guilty of second-degree manslaughter is my opinion. Something’s wrong with this whole story.”

That 911 call was debated back in March and April 2012, with some saying Zimmerman said “fucking coon” and others saying it was “fucking cold” or “fucking punks.”

~Steve~

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/04/michael-savage-on-george-zimmerman-you-have-to-find-this-man-guilty-audio/#ixzz2YM2qFmjQ

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0 responses to “Michael Savage is a horse’s arse – Part 2

  1. Some carry “hot”, some do not. When you make a generalization, you are generally wrong. When I carry I generally do not carry a round in the chamber. Even if I did carry a bullet in the barrel I would always have the safety on. There is no measurable difference in time with my pistol for me to draw and fire, or draw, un-safety and fire. It is called practice. There is a significant difference in having a chambered weapon without a safety around myself and my family. I will use the safety.

    No one knows what happened that night except for Zimmerman and Martin. the rest of us are guessing. At least Savage’s thought is original.

     
    • Bard, Let me add to my comment below. I do commend you for carrying and protecting your family.
      How you carry is your decision. I was trained 20 yrs ago to carry hot and thought the guy was nuts.. Now I know no other way. I have friends with new permits who carry like you. I try and tell them about hot and tell them ultimately you do have a safety . It’s called your finger. It doesn’t go BOOM until you pull trigger.
      Glad you’re armed and protected.
      Steve

       
      • Steve , I’ve got a Glock 21 . Would you recommend ” carry hot ” with a gun devoid of a safety ? If I was living by myself ; no big deal . Being that I work nights and my wife,who has never fired a gun is by herself at night ……………It might be a little risky if I were to come home early and her shaking off the cob webs and all .

         
        • japoa, noooo I would not recommend especially if she was ticked off. 😆
          This wasn’t supposed to be about personal choice. I worded the original post wrong. I’ve since re worded it to more reflect on Savages remarks and How they pertain to Zimm.
          Wanna know something funny. I have no problem carrying hot.
          My Glock 27 with no safety always scares the hell out of me when I carry it. : lol: don’t know why, but kinda freaks me. Stupid huh?

          Glock does have 3 internal safety’s just no external.
          It comes down to your finger is the external safety.
          1) Why don’t Glock pistols have an external safety?
          A: The Glock pistol was designed without an external safety to make drawing and firing the pistol quicker and easier. It does have 3 internal safeties that prevent the gun from firing accidentally. In short, the Glock pistol simply will not fire unless the trigger is fully depressed.

           
          • Try telling that to a person who’s never shot a firearm in her life . While her father had guns all over the house ( hidden from them when they were young , obviously )…….I know what you mean about the trigger and all , but that’s me , not her . And I told her ; never , never put your finger on the trigger unless you are willing to deal with the consequences .

             
      • When carrying a pistol concealed there are many ways the trigger can be depressed accidentally. The most common way is in the heat of the moment as I am drawing it. Also another very dangerous time is when I sit, I often will change the position of my conceal pistol. When I get in my truck, I often take the pistol out and ensure I can reach it when I am driving. Thus I “draw” or handle the conceal pistol several times during the day. Most often in a way that does not reveal the pistol. There are common ways to accidentally depress the trigger, that is why they have safeties. Any way it takes a way from the point of your article.

        Your protection is your responsibility. Protect yourself how you feel comfortable. Savage was making a point the liberal media could not make because they don’t know enough about guns to make the point. The way Savage obviously carries is the way I carry normally. I don’t put one in the chamber unless I am expecting trouble. What Savage is not correct is, that is the way everyone carries.

        However this no more proves anyone’s guilt then the other stuff. There are a few facts in this case. Zimmerman was armed, Martin was not. Apparently Martin had and was not about to commit any crime. He really was walking down the street. Innocent people who are not committing crimes should not end up dead. If Martin was not dressed like a thug he probably would be alive today. If Zimmerman was a little less “gong ho” Martin would most likely be alive today.

        When I am outside my house I have already made the clean decision that my firearms are for my protection and the protection of other when their lives are at stake. Shooting you to protect someone else truck is not going to happen. That is what insurance is for, plus I don’t want to spend my beans, bullets and band-aide money on lawyers. My point, I would not have followed anyone. I most likely would not have called the police.

        If I was going to charge Zimmerman, I would have charged him with manslaughter and let the jury decide. The way and how they charged him is more about politics and the anti-gun groups trying to make a point than justice.

         
  2. Savage has LOST HIS MIND, for sure he has NEVER been in a bad neighborhood or used any kind of weapon. The reason to carry a chambered round, is because, THE BAD GUYS DO! MORON! We need some more arm chair Lawyers and Judges, that don’t know their butt from a hole in the ground! That two seconds that you would have to chamber a round would cause you to have two bullets in you! Instead of the bad guy! Semper Fi.

     
  3. I agree with no one knows what happens that night between Zimm and Martin.
    As to your first Statement, I would say this.
    How do Police, Fbi….any law enforcement carry?
    And you’re right about practicing your “Drawing” So let’s say I practice quite a lot also.
    Who wins.

     
    • In the military they train us to carry in various ways. I also believe police are trained to carry in various forms. I believe some departments carry like you say, and others have the safety’s on.

       
    • Over in the sandbox, they can’t have a round in the chamber, thanks to Obama’s new ROE. Ugh.

      My primary carry is a revolver, with no trigger lock. I’m more comfortable with carrying a loaded revolver, as I believe it is less likely to have an AD than a semi-auto. Just my personal preference.

       
  4. This trial is very much a mockery and to accept Savage’s insane premise is just icing on the fruitcake.

    About practicing your draw… the important part about weapon use is the safe and accurate delivery of rounds on target. Present the weapon as quickly as you can in a safe manner without premature discharge. Carry your weapon in such a manner as you are most comfortable with. If the weapon does not have a round chambered (obviously autoloaders only) practice to get a round in the chamber as you are drawing. It still can be quite fast but obviously not as fast as a round that is already chambered. On duty I always carried with a round chambered. Off duty – it depended on the weapon and where I was going. I have carried for over 40 years.

     
    • sig94, good post and advice. I did not mean for this post to be about personal carry decisions. It was about Savage and his comments. I’ve since reworded and hope that helps.
      You’re right about this part. People may draw like Wyatt Earp and miss everything.
      “the important part about weapon use is the safe and accurate delivery of rounds on target. “

       
    • I know this wasn’t the point of Steve’s post, but the important thing about carrying (to me) is to learn how to do it properly. I just bought a gun last November and have put a good amount of money into learning how to use it safely. When I’m comfortable carrying I will be carrying hot all the time. If Zimmerman wasn’t carrying hot he would be dead.

       
      • nova, Congrat’s on taking you and your families safety into your hands. Keep doing what you’re doing and get proficient with gun. Better to be a second slower at this point and be able to hit the bastard.
        OK, I see you see the benefits of carrying hot. Remember there is still ultimately one more safety….your finger. So make sure you have good holster that covers trigger, it doesn’t go boom unless you pull trigger.
        Steve

         
  5. This is what I have gathered. Trayvon was on top pounding Zimmerman, then Zimmerman was screaming for help, then Zimmerman heard Trayvon say he is going to kill Zimmerman, then Zimmerman grappled for the gun and fired. If Zimmerman had intended to shoot Trayvon in the first place then Zimmerman would have had the gun in his hands while he was searching for Trayvon but that is not what happened, the gun was still in the holster which shows no intent to shoot. The fact Zimmerman was screaming for help also shows he had no intention to shoot Trayvon. At the end Zimmerman realized he had to shoot or die. That is what I see happened in this case. It appears to be self defense. The fact the gun was hot is normal business.

     
  6. Regarding Savage’s claim that Zimmerman was heard to say “f-ing coon,” examination of the tape revealed he had said “f-ing COLD.”

     
  7. Sorry….here is the link:
    Language warning!!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ceb_1333635188

     
  8. Mother, thanks for the link, I’ll add it to story. Really makes it clear.

     
  9. Ironically, Savage went down the wrong path by buying into official PC policy, i.e., that Zimmerman was told to stay in the car by the police. The fact that Zimmerman did not take that order seriously was because he genuinely believed he could further assist the police by ensuring that the perp did not disappear before the police arrived. Savage does not want to forgive that human action, which was NOT the result of Zimmerman wanting to pull out a gun and shoot. Everyone has 20/20 hindsight and no one could have foreseen that the druggy perp would have tried to bash Zimmerman’s brains out, that he would see Zimmerman’s gun and that Zimmerman would have to shoot or be shot. No doubt Savage loves this because he’s getting a bunch of attention from taking this PC position.

     
    • brit, I don’t mean to correct you, but the transcript shows they never said stay in car. . He was out of car when he made call. They said don’t do that and he was on his way back to car when he and Martin crossed paths.
      Only those 2 and God know what happened. I’m just tired of media
      spreading the wrong facts.

      Here is partial transcript and this is what most people have gotten wrong and by that they think Zimm disregarded a police order.
      Zimmerman: He’s running.
      911 dispatcher: He’s running? Which way is he running?
      Zimmerman: Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood.
      911 dispatcher: OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?
      Zimmerman: The back entrance. [Under his breath, ‘F-ing c**ns’]
      911 dispatcher: Are you following him?
      Zimmerman: Yeah
      911 dispatcher: OK. We don’t need you to do that.
      Zimmermann OK

      Here is the audio
      http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/wp-includes/ms-files.php?file=2013/07/ZIMMERMAN-911-AUDIO.mp3

       
  10. A SCHMUCK and a PUTZ….

     
  11. traildustfotm

    Agreed Steve.
    The moment someone slams your head into the pavement, your life span is about to be shortened, unless you shoot the guy out of self defense.

     
  12. Savage is, as always, looking for publicity. Editing tapes is what low lifes do for publicity and to inflame the public.

     

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