Just How Profoundly Have We Been Lied To About WWII?

This post is a question,
not an answer

And it is so wild that I may pull it down myself. 

In the wake of the unmasking of our entire news media (CNN), it seems almost any lie, no matter how outrageous, is possible. “Truth be told,” I just spent days absolutely derailed by a documentary called, “Adolf Hitler The greatest story Never Told.” I am not persuaded by it, but am very challenged. I can’t believe its assertions that were so favorable to Hitler, but now that my trust in our sources of information is so shaken, what might we find out?
When Hollywood and TV producers endlessly default to making the ultimate villain look like a Nazi (Darth Vader, for instance), and with the droning on about the Holocaust for the last 60 years, one begins to suspect there is a cover-up. They “doth protest too much, methinks.”
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7ensuHLIo?rel=0&w=500&h=281]
I do not pretend to know the answer to this material. So I ask our viewers to weigh in on this. Our readers know that I am reflexively defensive for the Jews and Israel, so this question does not show any anti-semitism.
So here is the question again:

What really happened in WWII?

~ Trail Dust
PS: Dr. Eowyn, if this question sounds too crazy for the blog, please let me know. I will take down the post immediately. God knows I feel crazy even asking it.
PPS: Please know that I might take this down on my own (just can’t stand going that deep down the rabbit hole). But in the mean time, your thoughts are welcome.
PPPS: Years ago, while working in the ski industry, I was talking with a couple of my colleagues (who were good friends) when the subject of Nazis came up. I said something negative, and they said, “Don’t knock the Nazis. There are things you don’t know. Both our families were Nazis.” These were nice guys, easy going, friendly, nothing like the caricatures we’ve seen. That put a seed of doubt in me about the subject. It made me wonder how much I really don’t know. Is it possible that Hitler and the Nazis were lied about on the scale of the lies we are seeing perpetrated against Trump?

Note from Dr. Eowyn:

TrailDust wrote, and FOTM published, this post in the interest of asking questions and the pursuit of the truth, not to resurrect the Third Reich. Distressingly, some readers took this post as a permission to exonerate, excuse, and even laud Hitler and the Nazis who had committed verified atrocities, as well as aggression and outright invasion and occupation of other countries, Austria being the first.
TrailDust and I agree that FOTM is not a forum for neo-Nazi Hitler lovers. To publish those comments would simply provide our political enemies with the pretext they’ve sought to shut down this blog.

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RLJohnson77
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As for Hitler and unemployment, here are some facts. By 1932 over 30 per cent of the German workforce was unemployed. In the 1933 Election campaign, Adolf Hitler promised that if he gained power he would abolish unemployment. He was lucky in that the German economy was just beginning to recover when he came into office. However, the policies that Hitler introduced did help to reduce the number of people unemployed in Germany. These policies often involved taking away certain freedoms from employers. The government banned the introduction of some labor-saving machinery. Employers also had to get government permission before… Read more »

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Michelle
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I’m not yet finished with the documentary, thanks for the link. I will continue watching it. Although, there are some strange interpretations, even by Nazi standards. My grandmother’s second husband was a Nazi. The swastika was not really inspired by the cross (or a hooked cross, as the doc claims just past 5 min). The filmmakers could have at least done a little research before claiming the ‘real origins’. You can find swastikas all over temples in Bali and other places in Asia still today, not Nazi related at all. The swastika is a symbol of auspiciousness from India and… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Eh, not that profoundly… the outcome of the war shaped the “short answer” of the accepted history leading up to it (true) but everyone’s always wanted to see perseverant victors and worthwhile enemies (not bumblers) fighting their massively decisive (and bloody) wars in retrospect. How people are.

Auntie Lulu
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Auntie Lulu

Fifty years ago, I would never believe that our government would lead us astray . . . I have come to have certain qualms over what has been taught as “history.” Some of the things that perturb me . . . the killing of JKF; the killing at Ruby Ridge; the slaughter at Waco, Texas; the leaving of American GI’s in Viet Nam–although there was multiple reliable sources of information that American’s were still being held–having that asshole John McCain go along with turning America’s back on these men, and his helping to pass legislation that barred further investigation into… Read more »

Vince
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Vince

Roosevelt was coerced by his relative Churchill to enter the war. But entering the war would have sent the American public into a war they did not want. Americans wanted NO part of war. Churchill in dire need of equipment convinced Roosevelt to enact lend- lease, but not without Roosevelt stripping Britain of all its advanced technological inventions, radar, jet engine/aircraft engine technology, etc. From Sept 39 to May 40 England did basically nothing in the war effort. Left the Poles to fend for them selves against Russia and Germany. Only when the Germans mobilize into France did the British… Read more »

Josh
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Josh

There are some important questions about ww2 that come to my mind. But first some background. Hitler told the world what he would do if he got power in his book mein kampf, and one of those things was to eradicate jews from Europe, so I have no doubt the Konzentrationlagen (what we call nazi death camps like Treblinka and so on) and the nazi industrialisation of mass murder are fact. Also, Hitler visited Britain prior to the war, what did he do and who did he talk to while there? There’s also the tale of Hess being sent by… Read more »

Dr. Eowyn
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“I have no doubt the Konzentrationlagen (what we call nazi death camps like Treblinka and so on) and the nazi industrialisation of mass murder are fact.” This is an excellent source: https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm I suggest you and others take the time to read it. Of particular interest is the section, “Note 2: The Diminishing Numbers of Alleged Dead in Auschwitz,” on how the numbers of Jews who died under the Nazis systematically decrease since 1945, to the most recent estimate of 135,000 — a number that is roughly corroborated by the “Auschwitz death books”: “The death books themselves are wartime German… Read more »

Michelle
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Michelle

Only half a million, well, then, that makes it OK. (sarcasm)
When you round up and kill masses of civilians, there is no justification.
My main worry is that Christians might be the next target, but not in Germany, here in the USA. There will always be ‘undesirables’ in a country, but how will you feel if it was YOU?
Dr. Eowyn, while we are on the subject, are you aware of the thesis about The Lord of the Rings being a veiled examination of the second world war? Just curious.

Dr. Eowyn
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Did I say it’s OK? Point to where in my comment I said it’s OK.
You are putting words in my mouth, and I don’t appreciate it.
We’ve been pummeled with the 6-million-Jews number for decades — used as an “anti-Semitic” bludgeon to browbeat and silence anyone who so much as whisper a criticism about Jews or Israel, who are beyond even legitimate criticism — never mind the fact that the Nazis killed millions of non-Jews: gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally & physically disabled, Catholic priests & nuns.
God is Truth, and truth matters. But clearly truth doesn’t matter to you.

Michelle
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Michelle

Truth, let’s try that. My words are my own, not attributing them to you. Your statement was basically about how the numbers are inflated. When you start going down path of lessening the numbers killed, it really doesn’t make matters much different, does it? Half a million jews and non jews? OK, let’s go with those numbers, it’s still horrific. Even if the numbers are WAY LESS, there is no justification.

Kevin Lankford
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Kevin Lankford

I think the point is these ashkenazi fake Jews intentionally inflated the number of fatalities within the german work camps. They attempted the same thing in the first world war, but it did not work.They have actually convinced much of world they were the most persecuted of the war, almost as if was meant for their annihilation alone. There are even laws existing in some countries where one can be prosecuted for presenting evidence denying the holocaust. Even on our own internet just referring to Jews gets one moderated on most sites. Truth is it was their own plan to… Read more »

Dr. Eowyn
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@Michelle: You wrote in your original comment: “Only half a million, well, then, that makes it OK. (sarcasm)” Anyone with half a brain would read that as you accusing me. You then denied it by writing “My words are my own, not attributing them to you.” But then, you immediately contradicted yourself with “When you start going down path of lessening the numbers killed, it really doesn’t make matters much different, does it?” — effectively still accusing me of making light of the Jews who were killed. So, yes, you still are putting words in my mouth — and I… Read more »

Jurist
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Jurist

It appears that the Allies killed (or shipped off to the USSR to be killed) millions more prisoners, post war, than died in the Nazi concentration camps during the war

Ray
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Ray

Check out the documentary “Hellfire” by Kyle Hunt and Thomas Goodrich. It’s an eye opener.

Auntie Lulu
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Auntie Lulu

Dr Eowyn . . . You have done us all a great favor by fleshing out more information regarding WWII, and in particular the disparity in numbers of “Jewish” lives that were supposedly lost. If CNN is so busy leading us astray with their Fake News . . . we can see that this is not something that just came into being . . . it has been going on for 80 years. God Bless you evermore for all your efforts.

Dr. Eowyn
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Thank you, Auntie Lulu. Not only are your comments unfailingly sensible and articulate what so many of us think/feel, you also take the time and consideration to acknowledge and thank other commenters. God bless you!

Jurist
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Jurist

They were work camps, not death camps.

marblenecltr
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For now, the world is under Satan. For what it is worth, he hates everyone, including minions.

RLJohnson77
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I suggest everyone read a classic, “The Unseen Hand”. https://g.co/kgs/9rRSM9

Glenn47
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Glenn47

Excellent book. The author listed everything that is happening now, back in the mid 80’s.

Lophatt
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Lophatt

All wars are based on lies. There are no “good wars”. It is important to understand that sometimes, the horrible circumstances of war bring out some of the greatest personal attributes in men and women. That is not a reason to go to war or an excuse to glorify it. WWII had amazing propaganda. People were very naive, having mostly just come off the farm. The atmosphere was alive with pressure to conform. Today the same forces apply, but they have achieved quite a bit of technological sophistication from the WWII era. Truly, “seeing (IS NOT) believing” any longer. Any… Read more »

TPR
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–“Please know that I might take this down on my own (just can’t stand going that deep down the rabbit hole).” Naaa, don’t take it down. Questioning is always a good thing. And no panic! You’ve simply come across another layer of the onion. Keep peeling. 😉 –“Is it possible that Hitler and the Nazis were lied about on the scale of the lies we are seeing perpetrated against Trump?” –I’m no WW2 expert. And I do not “worship” Hitler like some who have made him out to be a Christian & practically a saint. It’s more likely he was… Read more »

TPR
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TPR

Continued… Here’s one youtube with literal copies of 10 newspapers re the same figures: “SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD: Published on Feb 19, 2013: 10 newspapers from 1915-1938 before the Holocaust allegedly happened. Here’s some more articles…” (He included searched links to the Library of Congress & the New York Times): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk The video’s creator added in the comments that his video had been banned in Martinique, Poland, Mayotte, Israel, Italy, Reunion, France, Switzerland, French Guiana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Germany, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Austria, Netherlands, New Caledonia, Guadeloupe, Czech Republic, Wallis and Futuna. Great comment left by… Read more »

Lophatt
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Lophatt

Well, manipulation like this actually effects more than one target. Zionism is an invention. It is also terrible theology. This “movement” was intended to help control the already captive Jew population. As usual, it was entirely political, not religious. They give it a religious veneer to make it unassailable. The “Holohoax” is another example of manipulation. To those who want a better understanding they should read Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion”. It is available for free on the internet. As Br. Kapler well understands, the Jews are as easily victimized by their own agendas as the Goyim. Kapler’s no… Read more »

TPR
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TPR

Continued…
There’s also photos online of OLD newspapers with World Almanac religious-group figures from before & after WW2. The Jewish population worldwide INcreased in population from 15,315,000 (1933) to 15,753,000 (1948):
https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432

TPR
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TPR

Continued…
Here’s Jewish-guy-turned-Russian-Orthodox-Christian Nat Kapner’s Holocaust page listing several articles he’s done over the years on that subject/category:
https://www.realjewnews.com/?cat=309
In one of them (in the comments section), he added:
realjewnews .com/?p=665
“To be frank, growing up in the fifties we as Jews were NEVER told about this so-called ‘holocaust’ (Jews didn’t start hyping it until the late 60’s when I was already a teenager) and of course we NEVER learned about the horrible crimes perpetrated BY THE ALLIES against German civilians.”

josephbc69
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My comments relate to this entry and the rest following, down to & including traildustfotm’s. As Hegel pointed out, we are all dupes on the slaughterbench of history; about the most useful actions we can take are to maintain as much virtue & honesty as possible under our circumstances, and to learn as we go, incorporating useful information. Even w/the advantages of my anarchist father’s oral history & his philosophy of seeking the truth in all histories, plus the insights shared with me from his two business partners, an older [65+?] US-born Jew and the other recently arrived from Poland… Read more »

TPR
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TPR

Continued…
Back in 1990, Poland lowered the Auschwitz death toll from 4 million to 1.5 million & now “experts” say approx. 1.1 million:comment image
That above plaque/photo was at Pinterest under a heading re Katy Perry visiting the camps. I guess it’s taking 50-70 years to determine a more accurate death toll.

TPR
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TPR

2nd Plaque…
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f89a69bd0381759c9d99301a35c36dfa
That last photo was in a Quora page here:
quora. com/What-is-the-documented-justification-for-not-lowering-the-official-6-million-Holocaust-loss-figure

Jurist
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Jurist

Thanks for sharing so many sources, TPR!

Guest
Guest
Guest

If we, as intellectuals pursuing truth, cannot question any era or event in history, we must ask why. If Hitler is an evil man, and we thoroughly study the evidence, we will surely arrive at that conclusion… and if that evidence takes us in a different direction, so be it. When I got internet, I decided to research “why did Hitler hate the Jews” assuming he was an evilracistnazi. Well, my eyes have been opened to truths I never learned in school.

Gary Jones
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Gary Jones

Voltaire: “History is the abuse the living heap upon the dead.”
Today’s fake mainstream news becomes tomorrow’s history.
In the 1960s I was a brainwashed hippie believing most of the lies unfit to print coming from the New York Times. I feel our
children and grandchildren will curse our names for leaving them the mess that America is now.

marblenecltr
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The desire for Jews to have their home in Jerusalem goes back to the many promises God made in the Old Testament, and, in His time, it will happen. Zionism as we know it today got its impetus in the eighteen hundreds.
Edward Gibbons, “History is indeed little more than the register of the crimes, follies and misfortunes of mankind.” William Casey, once CIA Director, “We’ll know our disinformation plan is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” There is much more, I hope this helps clear matters up for you. It doesn’t for me.

Dr. Eowyn
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“The desire for Jews to have their home in Jerusalem goes back to the many promises God made in the Old Testament”
That works only if they are the real biological descendants of the biblical Hebrews, instead of Khazarians. See:

marblenecltr
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The Sephardic tribes of Judah and Benjamin are still around, but, as for the Ashkenazi, I don’t know how God will deal with “The Thirteenth Tribe” or any converts taking up the difficulties of life under the Tanakh. Many people are dying to find out, our will have to. The Days of Jacob’s Trouble have yet to fall on all of us. Jesus is needed for all, I do not want to live anywhere but in the house of the Lord.

Jurist
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Jurist

This is great news! TGSNT hit me like a 2×4 to the head when I watched it. In fact, just yesterday I convinced a close friend to watch it.
If nothing else, the movie will let people know about tons of evils that the West is responsible for and which were covered up.
Better yet, it will remind viewers to not trust the coordinated lies of the mainstream media.
If you haven’t yet, you MUST watch Dennis Wise’s follow-up movie on the new world order. It definitely fits with this site’s usual discussions.

Jurist
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Jurist

Also, here’s the trailer to the NWO documentary I mentioned (same maker as TGSNT). Warning Disturbing Content, Graphic Images
https://youtu.be/LcEYa48yfzo
Although I had a hard time stomaching the anti-Jewish sentiment in some parts of the documentary, I trust all FOTM editors, and many if not most readers, will find this very, very useful to watch (the whole thing, not the trailer).
God speed

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Akzed
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Akzed

Watch any David Irving vids, and lots of em, that’s my best advice.

Dr. Eowyn
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Lana asked me to publish this comment on her behalf, because her repeated attempts got “disappeared” (not by FOTM). Here’s her comment: TGSNT has been purged in 13 countries Trail. And we do not know how long it will be available with the suppression really starting to get heavy even here in the US. I watched this doc two years ago- took me a week to get through it. I cried on and off all the way through, and was left stunned at the end. It haunted me for months afterword. Did you watch the entire 6 hours, or the… Read more »

iconordic
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We are told that Hitler gassed 6 million Jew to death, in a 5 & one half year war,..That would be about 3 thousand Jews a day, or 1 Jew every 30 seconds, over a 2 thousand day period I don’t believe that that is even possible & I also think that the Jews are lying about this matter, & using this myth about 6 million gassed Jews to inflict a ‘guilt trip’ onto the people of Europa in order that Jewry can inflict a death wish onto he White race, in order to increase Jewish power in the world.… Read more »

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Seumas

Traildust, I would also reference some of my older comments made Re: hiroshima and control of Japan as well by secret societies (particularly the eradication of the Christian centers in Japan, and the usurping of the power of the emperor). As far as world war two goes, it was a continuation of world war one, essentially, from what I can tell thusfar it seems both were waged for reasons that aren’t what the public is told… you won’t learn that world war one was started by a secret society (the black hand) that went on to become the “legitimate” govt.… Read more »

Dr. Eowyn
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“I won’t give hitler any accolades though” “in a nutshell, it seems like its satanism vs Christianity per usual, with a lot of (perhaps needless?) complexities thrown in.”
Ditto!

TPR
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TPR

THE HOLOCAUST & ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA –vs– WORLD BOOK ENCYCLOPEDIA An interesting & funny update to the WW2 / “Holocaust Question”: Yesterday 7/12/17, Saboteur365 posted at his WP blog that he thought he had hit the “jackpot of truth proof” when, after neighbors in his apt. complex moved, they first dumped an entire set of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1971 Edition) into the dumpster which he later fished out & salvaged the entire set. Volume.11 covered the “H” entries for where HOLOCAUST should have been but Saboteur says it is NOT THERE. Then along came one of his regular commenters, a lady… Read more »

marblenecltr
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An excellent book that brings these matters into clear relevance for today is, “The Power Elite and the Secret Nazi Plan” by Dennis L. Cuddy, PhD.