Ben Carson compares ISIS to America's founding fathers

I just received this as a news tip from FOTM reader CSM. The news is almost a year old, and yet I had not known this. Did you?
Steve Peoples reports for the AP (via Yahoo) that on Jan. 15, 2015, in a 35-min. luncheon speech to the Republican National Committee’s winter meeting outside San Diego, presidential aspirant Dr. Ben Carson compared ISIS or the Islamic State (who chop off the heads of their enemies) to the patriots of the American Revolution.

Referring to the Islamic State, Carson said, “They got the wrong philosophy, but they’re willing to die for what they believe, while we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness. We have to change that.”

A Republican National Committee spokesman had no immediate response when asked to comment on Carson’s remarks.

After the speech, Carson said it’s “ridiculous” to suggest he was likening American patriots to the Islamic State, claiming the comparison was politically motivated attacks by his opponents.

You decide if it’s ridiculous. Here’s a video of his remarks, followed by my transcription of his words:
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqwgxcrMm3s]
Carson said:

“A bunch of ragtag militia men [American revolutionaries] defeated the most powerful and professional military force on the planet [Great Britain]. Why? Because they believed in what they were doing, they were willing to die for what they believed in. The British were not.
Fast forward to today. What do we have? You got ISIS. They’ve got the wrong philosophy, but they’re willing to die for what they believe, while we are busily giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness.”

Carson easily could have made his point about the need for patriotic Americans today to stand up for our beliefs and values, without comparing the barbaric Islamic State jihadists to our Founding Fathers.

Carson has drawn criticism for other comparisons. In Spring 2014, Carson called the scandal over patient care at veterans hospitals “a gift from God to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider.” In 2013 he called Obamacare “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” adding that “it is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”

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MeThePeople
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MeThePeople

That’s the problem.
You do not know if the analogies are expressed in poorly worded metaphors or if they are Freudian slips revealing a pathological personality.
I’m with Trump

cs
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cs

Maybe he would have been better off comparing it to our present “leaders.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaH9LyYGjbk

MomOfIV
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MomOfIV

I think it speaks volumes that he chose not to use our present administration.

Christian Zionist
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This just proves to me that what I think about Carson is spot on. I wrote an article about the failure of Christians to have proper discernment. Thankfully, Dr. E and her reader, CSM, obviously do. I am working on the second article on Carson, and I definitely will quote from and link to this article. When I wrote the first article on Carson, several psychologists and one psychiatrist wrote to me, along with only one minister. All of them said basically the same thing, that Carson has a mental problem, a pathological problem. One person told me they felt… Read more »

Steven Broiles
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Carson is a Manchurian Candidate, and I believe every last candidate should be examined for signs of mind-control. It used to be we—years ago—would make fun of someone with a nervous tic, for example. A nervous tic is a nervous tic and nothing more: It cannot be helped. But Carson—just like Sarah Palin before him—is trying to be something he clearly is NOT: An intellectual. We should all ask ourselves this question whenever we look at and listen to a candidate: Does this man have plenty to say but nothing to back it up? If the answer to that question… Read more »

vistabee
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Perhaps that is why he seems creepy to me. Interesting.

TrailDust
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TrailDust

I agree Dr. Eowyn. This goes far beyond “bad optics,” and straight into psychopathy.

Lynnrx52
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Lynnrx52

Ok, 1) Just the title of this piece alone is propaganda and completely stupid. 2) How evil is it to take his words which simply compares something current to demonstrate what commitment & determination look like – acknowledging at the outset that one is good and the other is bad. 3) Only despicable Alinskyites would use such tactics to twist the truth.

danwdurham
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danwdurham

You have the right to be offended. You also have the right to take comments out of context. Or, “Spin” them, as it seems to be called today. Comparisons can be “Positive” or “Negative” or anywhere in between. Seldom can a comparison be exact. While, at this point, I may not want to consider voting for Dr. Carson, I am not going to be outraged over whatever he says. Other candidates are saying things I find outrageous, but I am simply waiting to see who drops out and who remains, on both sides, before I decide for whom I will… Read more »

Steven Broiles
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I believe Dr. Carson is exhibiting the pathology of a Manchurian Candidate here. There is something really creepy about the man, especially his squinting eyes. He seems to be exhibiting the traits of someone who is mind-controlled. And his poorly constructed metaphor, comparing the Founding Fathers to ISIS is pedantic: Our Revolutionary patriots were willing to endure death to defend the idea of our Liberty, but let’s be real: ISIS has NO “philosophy”: The members of ISIS are doing what their paymasters are telling them to do. They are cleverly masked mercenaries, yet mercenaries just the same. Yes, it is… Read more »

Jack
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Jack

While I won’t vote for Carson because I LOVE TRUMP I have to concede that his use of the comparison is accurate about ISIS. Sure, they’re batshit crazy, murdering MF’s who deserve to spend eternity in the fires of Hell, but they are committed and the Obama administration is committed to assist islamic fundamentalism as much as he can. I really don’t believe that Carson ever intended to compare the methods of the Founding Fathers to those of the psychos of islam, regardless of their degree of insanity and desire to murder and the next POTUS would do well to… Read more »

Steven Broiles
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In a way I want to agree with you, Jack, but let’s be realistic: If Adam & Eve did not sin, someone else would have! You’re right—Eve should have gotten a stick. Problem is, the snake HYPNOTIZED HER!

Kevin Lankford
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Kevin Lankford

I do believe carson is a little confused; equating a willingness to kill, with the willingness to die.

MeThePeople
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MeThePeople

So Rubio was interviewed post Paris and said that with ISIS you either fight and win or not and lose. So I do not like that statement because if you fight you win.
Not fighting is not an option and shouldn’t come out of an American’s mouth, much less a candidate for President. So IMO Rubio is insane. I don’t know what the hell Rand Paul is but screw him too.

Jack
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Jack

Well put. I think that either Rubio or Rand would be a complete disaster but you can absolutely count on the stupidity of the American voter to make sure we’re screwed again on the POTUS race.

Jason
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Jason

I might be missing something, but Carson’s comment was quite clear. The American patriots won against the British (in part) because of their level of commitment and determination, not because they were militarily superior. Carson was likening ISIS to American patriots in this regard as a warning, not to equivocate the morality of their cause. He clearly stated that they had the wrong philosophy. The point he was making was not to underestimate the enemy. If the founding fathers were able to create this great and powerful nation, imagine what kind of a nation evil founding fathers (ISIS, Caliphate) could… Read more »

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