I’m torn on this: women in combat jobs

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Military plans would put women in most combat jobs

Sacramento Bee: Women may be able to start training as Army Rangers by mid-2015 and as Navy SEALs a year later under plans set to be announced by the Pentagon that would slowly bring women into thousands of combat jobs, including those in elite special operations forces.
Details of the plans were obtained by The Associated Press. They call for requiring women and men to meet the same physical and mental standards to quality for certain infantry, armor, commando and other front-line positions across the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reviewed the plans and has ordered the services to move ahead.

The move, expected to be announced Tuesday, follows revelations of a startling number of sexual assaults in the armed forces. Earlier this year, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey said the sexual assaults might be linked to the longstanding ban on women serving in combat because the disparity between the roles of men and women creates separate classes of personnel – male “warriors” versus the rest of the force.

While the sexual assault problem is more complicated than that, he said, the disparity has created a psychology that lends itself to disrespect for women.

Under the schedules military leaders delivered to Hagel, the Army will develop standards by July 2015 to allow women to train and potentially serve as Rangers, and qualified women could begin training as Navy SEALS by March 2016 if senior leaders agree. Military leaders have suggested bringing senior women from the officer and enlisted ranks into special forces units first to ensure that younger, lower-ranking women have a support system to help them get through the transition.

The Navy intends to open up its Riverine force and begin training women next month, with the goal of assigning women to the units by October. While not part of the special operations forces, the coastal Riverine squadrons do close combat and security operations in small boats.  The Navy plans to have studies finished by July 2014 on allowing women to serve as SEALs, and has set October 2015 as the date when women could begin Navy boot camp with the expressed intention of becoming SEALs eventually.

U.S. Special Operations Command is coordinating the matter of what commando jobs could be opened to women, what exceptions might be requested and when the transition would take place.

The proposals leave the door open for continued exclusion of women from some jobs, if research and testing find that women could not be successful in sufficient numbers, but the services would have to defend such decisions to top Pentagon leaders.

Army officials plan to complete gender-neutral standards for the Ranger course by July 2015. Army Rangers are one of the service’s special operations units, but many soldiers who go through Ranger training and wear the coveted tab on their shoulders never actually serve in the 75th Ranger Regiment. To be considered a true Ranger, soldiers must serve in the regiment.

In January, then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey signed an order that wiped away generations of limits on where and how women could fight for their country.  At the time, they asked the services to develop plans to set the change in motion.

The decision reflects a reality driven home by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, where battle lines were blurred and women were propelled into jobs as medics, military police and intelligence officers that were sometimes attached, but not formally assigned, to battalions. So, even though a woman could not serve officially as a battalion infantryman going out on patrol, she could fly a helicopter supporting the unit or be part of a team supplying medical aid if troops were injured.

Of the more than 6,700 U.S. service members who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, about 150 have been women.

The order Panetta and Dempsey signed prohibits physical standards from being lowered simply to allow women to qualify for jobs closer to the battlefront. But the services are methodically reviewing and revising the standards for many jobs, including strength and stamina, in order to set minimum requirements for troops to meet regardless of their sex.

The military services are also working to determine the cost of opening certain jobs to women, particularly aboard a variety of Navy ships, including certain submarines, frigates, mine warfare and other smaller warships. Dozens of ships do not have adequate berthing or facilities for women to meet privacy needs, and would require design and construction changes.

Under a 1994 Pentagon policy, women were prohibited from being assigned to ground combat units below the brigade level. A brigade is roughly 3,500 troops split into several battalions of about 800 soldiers each. Historically, brigades were based farther from the front lines, and they often included top command and support staff.

Last year the military opened up about 14,500 combat positions to women, most of them in the Army, by allowing them to serve in many jobs at the battalion level. The January order lifted the last barrier to women serving in combat, but allows the services to argue to keep some jobs closed.

The bulk of the nearly 240,000 jobs currently closed to women are in the Army, including those in infantry, armor, combat engineer and artillery units that are often close to the battlefront. Similar jobs in the Marine Corps are also closed.

Army officials have laid out a rolling schedule of dates in 2015 to develop gender-neutral standards for specific jobs, beginning with July for engineers, followed by field artillery in March and the infantry and armor jobs no later than September.

Women make up about 14 percent of the 1.4 million active U.S. military personnel. More than 280,000 women have been sent to Iraq, Afghanistan or neighboring nations in support of the wars.

I’m torn on this: I believe there are some women who are highly qualified for elite positions yet would hate to see physical and stamina standards lowered. I also question how well a man might work along side a woman in combat – whether they would feel an extra need to protect her. What do you think?

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0 responses to “I’m torn on this: women in combat jobs

  1. I think it’s 100% terrible.

  2. Regardless of the fact that some women are capable of great valor, this idea completely disregards all the ways in which it would overburden logistical demands, and break down unit cohesion and morale. Lose ANY of your edge, and you may lose a war.

  3. Nikolai, a friend of mine who is from Ukraine and served from age 19 in the old USSR Special Forces told me that in the USSR –and I assume today’s
    Russia– women were deemed to make the best assassins, as they easily distract men, giving them a vital second or two edge to become lethal.

    My friend served in Afghanistan when the USSR occupied that sad nation. His unit was captured in its entirety; they were all executed except for Nikolai, who was spared due to his youth. They tortured him, leaving permanently damaged hands, scarred face, broken nose, etc, then turned him loose, told him to return to his base and tell the rest this is what to expect.

  4. Women do not belong in combat.

    • Maybe not, but the Russians feel they are the BEST assassins. Go figure the difference.

      • Do being “the best assassins” — assuming that’s true — outweigh other considerations?

        • Not being Russian, I don’t know, but Nikolai was simply telling me what he knew. If it is true, then that fatal one or two seconds of pause before a male shoots to kill a female could literally be the life & death of a soldier. It brings to mind the movie SALT, which chronicles such an assassin. Just saying, you know…. Then there are the legends of Amazons, et al., which I have no idea about except as myths.

          • That one or two seconds is if a woman is lucky enough that the man is chivalrous and not a chauvinist. In general, the concept of females in combat allows men to have their cake and eat it too and women have the bad side of both worlds. Women’s delicate physical and emotional makeup and the biblical mandate for male leadership demands that women just resolve to bask in chivalry since neither biology nor the bible is going to change.


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