For the children: Illinois lawmakers consider new teaching methods that eliminate basic skills test for teachers

Liberal logic isn’t designed to make sense…

From MSN: Two bills are pending in the Illinois General Assembly that would pause or permanently eliminate a basic skills test for new teachers that some officials say has contributed to a statewide shortage of educators.

Starting June 30, the Illinois State Board of Education will put the Test of Academic Proficiency on hold as the agency considers alternative solutions to evaluate prospective teachers, The State Journal-Register reported. The current test has a 25% pass rate.

A lobbyist for the state’s Board of Education says the agency has taken an impartial position on the bills.

Sponsor Rep. Sue Scherer (a former teacher) said her bill would halt testing until 2025. People of color are at a disadvantage because the basic skills exam doesn’t factor in life experiences or cultural differences, Scherer noted.

In the first quarter of the year, around 12% of African American students and 14% of Hispanic students passed the basic skills test.

“I’ve seen so many good teachers go by the wayside because of these tests that are not really doing what they’re intended to do,” Scherer said.

Jeff Vose, regional school superintendent for Sangamon and Menard counties, said he has seen new teachers put off by the basic skills test.

“That’s the frustrating part of this process,” Vose said. “To watch people … get discouraged and disappointed because one test on one day is not allowing them to get into a profession that they desire to get into. One test eliminates their hopes and dreams of becoming a teacher.”

Eliminating the “barrier” of the basic skills test could bring in more educators to fill these positions, according to Vose.

James Rosborg, a retired Belleville superintendent and retired director of the master’s in education program at McKendree University, said he does not agree with doing away with the basic skills test altogether, though he called the existing exam “terrible.”

Scherer noted removing the skills test won’t lower teaching standards. “(The best teacher) is the one who knew the content and cared about you,” she said. “How do you give a test to figure that out?”

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Lou Minati
Lou Minati
1 year ago

My dream has always been to be an electrician, but the test is difficult, it’s expensive, I’d have to study, and that’s keeping me from reaching my potential. Besides, I have lots of life experience with electricity – I turn light switches on or off several times a day, I’ve plugged power cords into outlets, and there was that time when I peed on an electric fen…

Wait… never mind.

TrailDust
Admin
1 year ago

Redefining the term, “educators.” Yea, you’ll qualify more of them, but I shudder to think of the results of their “teaching.”

Doof
Doof
1 year ago

Keep lowering the bar. Never raise the bar. I’m sure it will work out well for the students.

Jackie Puppet
1 year ago
Reply to  Doof

The bar’s already been kicked to the ground.

Dr. Eowyn
Admin
1 year ago

Sure-fire formula for success — let’s dumb down the teachers who’ll dumb down the students!

The Gentle Grizzly
The Gentle Grizzly
1 year ago

To those who fail the tests due to cultural differences, try this: assimilate.

William
William
1 year ago

People of color are at a disadvantage because they are a relatively low-IQ population who have gotten by for too long by playing the race card. So much so that they now see a basic skills test as a “barrier”. The test needn’t eliminate their hopes of becoming a teacher. They can always learn some basic skills and take it again. But I’m sure having to learn basic skills is considered racis’. How much lower can we possibly reduce standards to compensate for slavery n’ sh*t?. There is no bottom apparently

Pearl
Pearl
1 year ago
Reply to  William

There really isn’t anyone who isn’t mentally impaired, that would fail a basic skills test, unless they were unwilling to learn to read, write, and do basic math.

William
William
1 year ago
Reply to  Pearl

They haven’t acquired these basic skills because they haven’t had to. There was a guy in my grad school, a black man, who asked me to read over and edit one of his papers. I was happy to but it was barely intelligible, second-grade level at best. He was for all intents and purposes illiterate but he was awarded an M.Ed, same as mine

Lophatt
Lophatt
1 year ago
Reply to  William

Ha! I used to proof read letters written by white engineers with graduate degrees that were unintelligible.

My wife retired from a university. She used to bring papers home from graduate students and we’d laugh about them. The comments from the professors were the funny part. “That’s very good, Johnny. Now, remember what we talked about regarding punctuation?”. ….

Anyway, so true!

William
William
1 year ago
Reply to  Lophatt

Or clinical notes that I have read that begin with “like”. This guy played pro football in Europe and made good money. I urged him to stick with that, he could always get a “degree” later. But he wanted to prove something. He went into mental health and had the misfortune of working under my ex-wife. She fired him for sexual harassment

Lophatt
Lophatt
1 year ago
Reply to  William

Tackle dummies make good money, for some reason. Maybe he attended Valley Girl U.

Lophatt
Lophatt
1 year ago
Reply to  William

All I know is that it’s all Whitey’s fault. If they can’t pass a test because they can’t read and write it’s all your fault, “yo racist”.

If they skip class to drink whiskey, steal TV’s and shoot dice in the alley, it’s your fault, “yo racist”.

If only they hadn’t shot Lincoln we could be talking about something else.

William
William
1 year ago
Reply to  Lophatt

And if they hadn’t shot JFK we might be talking about something else. Things were sorting out organically between the races by the 50’s, just as R.E. Lee said that slavery would eventually wither away with the application of Christian principles. It was after the LBJ coup that “civil rights” was kicked into overdrive for the most cynical of reasons and it’s been downhill ever since. Culminating with the Obongo clusterf**k. But I’m just saying that from my privileged position as a white devil

Pearl
Pearl
1 year ago

Scherer noted removing the skills test won’t lower teaching standards. “(The best teacher) is the one who knew the content and cared about you,” she said. “How do you give a test to figure that out?”

It’s called the “basic skills” test.

tom
tom
1 year ago

So they let a bunch of know-nothings in college and now that they have graduated and still don’t know anything they want to be teachers.I guess the only standard is,are you willing to pay union dues?

TeriDavisNewman
TeriDavisNewman
1 year ago

That’s what I want–illiterate dumbphuques who can’t pass a basic skills test teaching Common Core to my kids. Clearly the moron Democrats who run Illinois depend on STUPID voters to remain in office. The best thing that could happen to Illinois would be for Mike Madigan to drop dead.

Lophatt
Lophatt
1 year ago

Cattle don’t have to be smart to chew grass and stare at trains.

TeriDavisNewman
TeriDavisNewman
1 year ago
Reply to  Lophatt

Becoming a steak is not a career…

Jackie Puppet
1 year ago

Multicultural divershitty coupled with Common Core are going to be the death of America. There’s plenty of white teachers that are just as stupid. At a parent-teacher conference long ago, I complained to my daughter’s math teacher about problem-solving, and “teach” had trouble explaining the Common Core way without her textbook.

And the basic skills don’t factor in life experience or cultural differences? ?

It’s not supposed to!!! That’s why it’s called BASIC skills – it means something that EVERYBODY should have, no matter what their background! ?

CalGirl
CalGirl
1 year ago

As a former teacher, Scherer should know that “knowing the content” means being able to meet and exceed a basic skills test. And, caring and loving your students, no matter how well-portended and meant, will never bridge an academic deficiency in either teachers OR the results in their beloved students. Sadly, Scherer is trying to help Illinois find a way to put warm bodies into classrooms after decades of declining teacher-ed enrollments in colleges and universities. The teacher drought is a national problem brought on by nearly a decade of Obamanomics. Here in CA some years ago, we ammended our… Read more »

Lana
Lana
1 year ago
Reply to  CalGirl

“teacher drought is a national problem brought on by nearly a decade of Obamanomics.” Can you explain more? I know the federal government dangles money to get states to comply with federal guidelines etc., but generally the states have had some degree of control otherwise within their budgeting. Here in Ca. the teachers unions are notorious democratic supporters so what gives? I thought the dems were so wonderful to the teachers unions, else wise why all the liberal support? Teachers really fry me. ( present company not included). First they complain about class sizes being too large, then they vote… Read more »

Steven Broiles
1 year ago

This reminds me of a Monty Python episode, “The Bicycle Tour.” Absolutely SURREAL. Yep.

But then again, academia if CHOCK LOADED with idiots who actually believe Karl Marx’s “philosophy” can be made to work!

William Dalrymple
William Dalrymple
1 year ago

Stupid teachers making American kids really stupid one child at a time.