I won't be trying on clothes at Macy's

Macy’s policy requires cross-dressing men be allowed in women’s dressing rooms

Examiner:   In San Antonio, Texas, Natalie Johnson, an employee at Macy’s, stopped a man dressed as a woman from entering the women’s fitting area. Ms. Johnson said that he was wearing make-up and girl’s clothing and that he claimed to be a female.  The cross-dresser was accompanied by five other individuals, which did not intimidate Natalie. She politely told him that the women’s dressing rooms were for women only.
After arguing with expletives, the group demanded to speak with a manager. They knew that Macy’s is LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) friendly and believed she was out of line.  The manager confirmed that Macy’s LGBT policy allows transgender individuals to change in any dressing room they want.
Ms. Johnson reminded her boss that the same policy also protects against religious discrimination. She said LGBT activity, not to mention lies against calling a man a woman, goes against her religious beliefs.  She wanted no part of it.  The manager did not see that her rights to her beliefs in this case were valid. He said she could comply with policy in the cross-dresser’s favor or lose her job.  Not seeing his ultimatum as a true choice, Johnson left employment at Macy’s.
If you have a penis you are a man, no matter what you want to “feel”.  Biology and DNA are facts.   As a woman, I don’t want any individual with a penis entering a private room that is for REAL women.  But the minority 2% of the population keep pushing for their “rights”, even if it means infringing on my rights to privacy (and comfort).
Next time I’m at Macy’s (and there may not even be a next time) I will definitely not be going into any women’s dressing room.
DCG

Terry Lundgren, President & CEO of Macy's Inc


Contact info for Terry J. Lundgren, the CEO, Chairman of the Board, President, and Director at Macy’s, Inc., the parent company of Macy’s and Bloomingdale’s department stores:

7 West Seventh Street
Cincinnati, OH USA 45202
Phone: 513-579-7000
Fax: 513-579-7555

Click here for Macy’s “Contact Us” form. This is what I wrote; feel free to copy & paste to send as yours:

To: Terry Lundgren, President/CEO of Macy’s Inc.

As a woman and a longtime customer of Macy’s, I object to Macy’s policy of allowing cross-dressing men (i.e., transvestites) to use the women’s dressing room. Wearing lipstick and women’s clothes do not make them females. I dread to think I might run into such a person while I’m undressed in your department store’s women’s dressing room.

Why is Macy’s catering to a miniscule minority of the American population? So long as Macy’s continues this perverse policy, I will no longer shop at Macy’s. There are plenty of other places to buy clothes.

UPDATE (12.16.2011):
Mat Staver, attorney and founder of Liberty Counsel, tells OneNewsNow that an employee of another store has told him she has persistent problems keeping men out of the women’s fitting room. “She says that mothers of young daughters come up to her periodically and ask her to keep the men from going into the women’s fitting rooms. So this apparently is a pervasive problem within the Macy’s store system.”
Staver says the public is reacting: “Consistently the people of America are saying that they will not shop at Macy’s. They’re tearing up their Macy’s credit cards, they’re sending back their Macy’s gift cards, they say that they will not shop at Macy’s — and this is a consistent response that we’re seeing from the public around the country.”
H/t beloved fellow Tina!
~Eowyn

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25 responses to “I won't be trying on clothes at Macy's

  1. Several years ago, I belonged to a women’s 12-step group. One day, in walked this 6’5″ lumberjack wearing blue eyeshadow and lipstick. As generally open-minded and accepting as the group was (I mean, it was a 12-step meeting for goodness’ sake…we certainly weren’t there judging each other!), that was the end of the women’s meeting. Lose-lose, all around.
    It chaps my hide when the “rights” of others are exercised simply to prove that they can. I have this sneaking suspicion that most cross-dressers/transgendered do it for the attention, anyway, as though the world revolves around THEM. (There, I finally said it out loud.)

     
  2. I wrote the president of Macy’s that I would not be shopping in his store until he changed his policy. I have a Macy’s charge and have shopped there for years and years. This is crazy.

     
  3. Thanks, DCG, for alerting us to Macy’s perverse policy of catering to the 0.001% of the population — of freaks. How does Macy’s know the man is a transgender instead of a transvestite? Whatever. I haven’t shopped at Macy’s for several years now, and will now make it a point to never shop there.

     
  4. DCG,
    I just added the contact info for Macy’s President/CEO to your post. 🙂

     
  5. Perhaps stores should have one dressing room for ALTERNATIVES. Then if these people believe they are something other than their anatomy describes, that is where they change. The sign could read —?— not any more objectionable than if I walk into a dressing room and next to me is a 6 foot bearded woman.

     
  6. I very much agree with SAM… lets demand a third dressing room for all the variety of whatevers out there. As for me, I also don’t want to have a hairy dude pretending to be a girl next to me when I’m trying clothes…

     
  7. I sent my complaint via AFA, Natalie should not have lost her job. How much more ridiculous can all of this homo stuff get?? If that guy walked in when I was there I would have beat him till he wished he was really somewhere else. A baseball bat or whatever I could have gotten my hands on. Pervert.

     
  8. I’m not transgender, but I know people that are. Believe me honey, they want to be women, and don’t give a rat’s ass about you and your body parts. So judgemental. And just downright afraid of things. They have no interest in you, looking at you, touching you – no interest in same sex period. You’re the ones with the problem.

     
    • Traci: The two transgendered people I’ve known personally are both male to female, and BOTH are current (as of when I knew them) lesbians. Oh, and one of them was MORE than interested in touching me; (s)he told me so.

       
  9. As a matter of fact, most women have more to fear from many so called regular men than a man that feels like a woman and is transitioned/ing.

     
    • True to form, you believe the minority of the population has more rights, based upon your own lack of knowledge (I’m no Transgender). Honey, I don’t care what their intentions are. But when I am in a women’s dressing room, especially if I had a young female daughter with me, I would not want to see a penis, aka man, nor would I want to be forced to explain that to my daughter.
      Call me names all you want, doesn’t change the DNA or biology of a man.
      Sad that you believe a “regular” man can cause more damage. Feinstein got to you or did you suffer a personal bad experience that taints your view of a REAL man?

       
    • Traci,
      Why do you assume that the cross-dresser biological male in Macy’s women’s dressing room is one of your sanctified “transgenders” instead of a mere transvestite? Furthermore, since by your assertion cross-dressers are “harmless,” why not let them use Macy’s men’s dressing room? Why do you insist it is women who must tolerate a biological male sharing our dressing room? What happened to women’s rights?

       
  10. Tina, you are too violent to be let loose on someone who didn’t do anything to you.

     
  11. Since a “transgender” is anatomically and genetically as much a male as any other, how, exactly, are stores and their customers supposed to distinguish between a “harmless” transgender and a male sexual predator? For that matter, are the two categories mutually exclusive? Any woman who buys into the “Be tolerant, they’re harmless would-be girls” line has rocks in her head. Sexual privacy is important, and for good practical as well as moral reasons.
    My wife has already made it clear to Macy’s that she will not be patronizing their stores in the future, and our two daughters have been put on notice that we will not be paying for any purchases made there.

     
  12. Natalie Johnson, the principled Macy’s employee, is a Christian. She is represented by Liberty Counsel, a law firm that specializes in religious freedom cases. Johnson said the cross-dresser man “was wearing make-up and girls’ clothing and told her that he is a female. The cross-dresser was accompanied by five other individuals, who argued with expletives, that Macy’s was LGBT-friendly, according to Liberty Counsel’s statement.”
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/macys-fires-christian-worker-for-not-allowing-transgender-in-womens-fitting-room-64237/
    Johnson should sue Macy’s for not just religious intolerance, but a hostile work environment and sexual harassment.

     
  13. Of male cross-dressers (not trannys) most are straight. Do you want them in the dressing room with your teenage daughter?

     
  14. I will not shop in a store that allows men to come into the “women’s” dressing room. That is wrong by any standards except voyeurism standards. What is to stop a straight male sexual predator from putting on a skirt and entering the women’s dressing room? I would never feel safe in your dressing room.
    And–why can’t a male cross dresser use the “Men’s” dressing room? How will this hurt the male cross-dresser? Changing in the men’s dressing room will not hurt a male cross-dresser in any way.
    Macy’s and Bloomingdale’s, I’m very sad to say, have lost my patronage until you rehire the Christian that was fired for standing up for her religious beliefs, and you stop allowing men in the women’s dressing room.
    If the fired employee was Muslim and standing up for her religious beliefs, admit it, you would have never fired her because you would have been labeled a bigoted store. How hypocritical.

     
  15. Mat Staver, attorney and founder of Liberty Counsel, tells OneNewsNow that an employee of another store has told him she has persistent problems keeping men out of the women’s fitting room. “She says that mothers of young daughters come up to her periodically and ask her to keep the men from going into the women’s fitting rooms. So this apparently is a pervasive problem within the Macy’s store system.”
    Staver says the public is reacting: “Consistently the people of America are saying that they will not shop at Macy’s. They’re tearing up their Macy’s credit cards, they’re sending back their Macy’s gift cards, they say that they will not shop at Macy’s — and this is a consistent response that we’re seeing from the public around the country.”
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=1496480

     
  16. Have any of the ladies on this board ever used the Mens Restroom during a concert or sporting event? I see it all of the time. Who are the men suppose to complain to? Just seems a bit one sided to me.

     
    • Been to plenty sporting events and never once used the men’s restroom.
      Doubt the men would complain about a woman in their restroom as loudly as us ladies would complain about a man in ours!

       
  17. Well, since you obviously shop at a Walmart with your inbred cousin-wife, I’m sure Macy’s isn’t concerned about “losing your business”. Asswipe.

     
    • @Julie in Fargo, North Dakota:
      Project much? Sadly, your gratuitous insults of “inbred” and “asswipe” merely demonstrate that you are an ill-bred trailer-trash. “People of Walmart” only wish they were as classless as you.

       
    • Since you can’t offer a solution to the problem of women who may feel uncomfortable with men in their dressing rooms, I see you offer the perfect Alinsky solution: ridicule. Bet you were the champ in your debate class…

       
  18. yahoo.comI will not use the restroom at any establishment that allows women to use the men’s restroom simply because the line in the women’s restroom is too long and they don’t want to wait.

     

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