Houston school expels student who refused to stand for Pledge of Allegiance

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USA Today reports, Sept. 28, 2018, that months after Windfern High School in Houston, Texas, expelled senior student India Landry for refusing to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance, her mom, Kizzy Landry, has launched a legal battle against the school, saying her daughter wasn’t able to practice free speech.

India, now 18, was sent home last year after sitting during the pledge. She said: “I don’t think that the flag is what it says it’s for, for liberty and justice and all that. It’s not obviously what’s going on in America today.”

Her mother, Kizzy, said when she came to pick up India, the school provided little details as to why her daughter was kicked out. Later, the principal told the mother, “She can’t come to my school if she won’t stand for the pledge.”

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is intervening on the school’s behalf. Paxton said in a statement this week:

Schoolchildren cannot unilaterally refuse to participate in the pledge. Requiring the pledge to be recited at the start of every school day has the laudable result of fostering respect for our flag and a patriotic love of our country.

According to Texas law, students must recite the pledge unless they have a parent or guardian’s permission to opt out. Texas is one of 26 states with similar Pledge statutes.

Houston attorney Randall Kallinen, who was disciplined by a state licensing authority in 2003, has filed a federal lawsuit on Landry’s behalf, arguing that free speech protections also apply to silent protests. Kallinen has dismissed Paxton’s involvement as a political move, saying he’s confident his client “will prevail and she will once again be able to sit for the pledge of allegiance.”


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22 responses to “Houston school expels student who refused to stand for Pledge of Allegiance

  1. Back around the WW2 Era or not long thereafter, the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society won a USA Supreme Court case re JW kids choosing not to pledge allegiance to the flag at school (they consider it a form of idolatry). Hence, the case was won on “religious grounds”/Freedom Of Speech which may not apply (??) to cases of, “I don’t think that the flag is what it says it’s for…” as was Miss India’s argument.

  2. On second thought, after finding & briefly scanning the case(s) summaries, I’m surprised ANY schoolboard anywhere in USA still even tries to “force” any kids to partake of the Pledge activities (whether sit stand hand/heart speak, etc.) if they choose not to:

    1943: West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette – Wikipedia:
    –The Barnette (JWs) family won in the lower court re not saying the Pledge in school based on religious grounds, Exodus 20 “graven images”;
    –That school board is the party who appealed that decision all the way to SCOTUS & they lost based on the First Amendment, Freedom of Speech & its flip-side, ie, you cannot compel anyone to any sort of speech either, including the Pledge.

    1940: Minersville School District v. Gobitis – Wikipedia:
    –This case re the Gobitis (JWs) family was overturned by the above Barnette SCOTUS case/decision.

  3. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

    Wish we could do this for all totalitarian atheists aka globalists aka Marxists and Islamics as they serve the same Antichrist agenda.

  4. I love America, and I’m not ashamed to stand for and recite the Pledge, DESPITE the FACT it was written by a socialist. Sorry, but Texas Atty. General Paxton is wrong: The U.S. Supreme Court ruled, in 1943, that NO ONE may be compelled to stand for it or to recite it. I have been the victim of an unconstitutional practice by a NYC agency, which suspended my taxi license based on a lie, and this is America, and we are allowed to disagree.
    My British landlord, who knows my predicament, wants to evict me, and he does not believe I should be allowed to listen to Alex Jones or Hagmann & Hagmann. IT’S NONE OF HIS DAMNED BUSINESS, AND I TOLD HIM TO GET OUT OF MY COUNYRY.
    I don’t care for little know-it-all’s like India, but if she wants to be a smart-ass, that’s her right. And, NO, it’s not “the principal’s school,” it belongs to the taxpayers.
    I’m a conservative, but I will call out anyone if I believe she’s wrong.

  5. Well, good. The little twaaaaaat needed expelling, probably long ago.

  6. The critical age of children should be taken into consideration since they are so easily impressed.
    BUT, outside of that, if you don’t want to swear allegiance to America, if you want to burn our flag, create havoc, instill hate and discontent….why the phuck don’t you just get the hell out??!!??

    • The post does not say India ever burned a U.S. Flag; It merely stated her refusal to stand and recite the Pledge which, if I am not mistaken, is NOT required of new U.S. citizens when they take their oath of citizenship.
      I am against flag-burning (except for the the Nazi flag), and I regret that the U.S. Supreme Court decided it was free speech to do so. Be that as it may, NO ONE may be compelled to stand and recite the Pledge, or stand for the National Anthem, either. I’m against liberals and liberalism, but in this case, the Supreme Court of 1943 was correct.

  7. Well, she didn’t follow the Texas state law to recite he Pledge of Allegiance, serves her right to have been expelled, she was 17 y.o. and she, as the rest of the students is subject to school’s mandate, and if she feels there’s no liberty and justice, she should try taking a summer class in a country whose students are oppressed, she may like it there and make it a permanent residence there.

    • Yep Alma. She needs a semester or two in the “People’s” Republic of China. Straighten her right out. Lose enough “social points” there and they send the execution van around.

    • So the school had a “mandate,” did it? I remember a U.S. President who signed compulsory health insurance into law and that said law had a “mandate.” As a matter of fact, other tyrannical nations throughout history have had “mandates,” also; Jewish citizens being forced to identify themselves as Jews in Germany in the late 1930’s comes to mind.

      No, this was not “the principal’s school,” it belongs to the taxpayers of Texas, who, once upon a time, died at the Alamo because they themselves refused to live under what they considered a tyranny. Just because they all died and Santa Ana won makes no difference to the truth of the matter, which prevailed in the end.

      Let’s call our accounts rightly so we can cashier our sentiments out rightly: YES, India is a smart-ass. Whether she’s a teen or not, that is her constitutional right—and so it must be: The next student may not be a smart-ass—do we punish them, also???

      This is a case of a tempest in a teapot by a state attorney general who is out to protect his job and his pension, and the issue of free speech will remain long after he—and little India—are dead.

    • Agree with you whole-heartedly Alma. Chances are, the girls’ parents are following a script approved by some rights group with lawyers at their beck and call to take advantage of our countries’ generousity and compassion for its’ REAL citizens. Not the non-indiginous, imported for OUR purposes of farming before the cotton-gin was invented. The left will NEVER stop playing the race card and Lincoln knew it. That’s why we had the REAL “post-racial America” plan called the LIBERIA PLAN. Lincolns plan to deport all blacks to Liberia. Nobody wanted to pay for it so here we are, stuck with a country founded by educated whites escaping religous and monetary usury from England to have a country ruined by usurious bankers (central bank/”federal” reserve”), those people import their “holy” war (jews/muslims) from the middle east.

      Sad truth is the founding fathers NEVER considered blacks as equal and NEVER considered they would ever be free, vote, own a gun, land, marry a white, “earn” a degree while getting a free ride from presitgous universities because they can play ball. Doesn’t matter they have a criminal record. Here is your degree Tyrone.

      All the white people who have enough money to live safely in a white neighborhood are mostly jews, freemasons, mormons and the token minority to protect them from lawsuits. The affirmative action neighbors. EVERYONE self-segregates if they can afford it. That is the real American way. Secrecy, selling out your own kids to big pharma and jewish, freemasonic, mormon, scientology pedo networks for an exorbitant paycheck. This is what is really wrong with America. Not just white America. Repugnant secrecy. God bless.


  8. While I see both sides of the argument, you do have to see that this is a school and schools can have rules. Students are required to follow the rules or be punished. There is no ‘free speech’ in a job or in a school. Protest all you want outside of school, in front of the courthouse or other appropriate venue. Believe what you want about the condition of the country, but everyone should have respect for it and want to better it, not foment hatred like so many are doing with their not-well-thought-out actions disguised as ‘protests’.

  9. “I don’t think that the flag is what it says it’s for, for liberty and justice and all that. It’s not obviously what’s going on in America today.”

    Meh, every teenager’s got an I-know-it-all opinion.

    I’m just surprised she didn’t use the word f*ck in her brilliant, in-depth analysis, which is the favorite word amongst many intellectually lazy teenagers.

    • The F-Bomb is a favorite word of many Hollywood, music and rap stars, and it happens to be one of Beto’s favorite words, too. India’s mind may resemble the remains of a dissected fetal pig, but she, and not the others, are correct: No one may be compelled to stand for the Pledge (which was written by a socialist) or the National Anthem.

  10. I’m surprised she didn’t take a knee… :rolleyes:

  11. The flag stands for all that she might be protesting. The flag is the ideal. Not the product. Disrespecting the flag is disrespecting all that it stands for. Peace, love, charity, tolerance, unity, patriotisim, all things good. If you don’t stand for the flag then you are not standing for those ideals. Your choice. Own the consequences.
    Keep Making America Great

    • Good point. She’s probably protesting having to responsibly earn one’s place in life, which she’s been taught is a white racist canard intended to unfairly elevate whites while keeping her people living amid squalor and crime, not because of their own behavior, but because of evil (Christian-only) whites. In all likelihood she believes “root causes” and not willfully bad decisions cause crime in black neighborhoods. Tragically, inner-city blacks don’t realize that the unspoken premise of all MSM/leftist propaganda aimed at her kind presupposes that blacks are incapable of moral judgment and responsible behavior, and to the extent they must be treated as they are, which is as something halfway between man and ape (as Maimonides put it). Now that’s demeaning racism that needs changing.

      Of more importance than this girl—who cares if she wants to sit?—was the Houston Chronicle’s earlier virtue- and relevance-signaling send up of that grandstanding lawyer Kallinen, mainly because he’s also a painter of modernist splatter and doodle art, as well as a civil rights lawyer. So here’s this flaccid, goateed, and shabby little man insouciantly wearing a plaid shirt and striped tie in the photo above, and instead of a rebuke we get formerly cotillion-correct Houston falling all over itself, boasting that what Kallinen represents is the new Houston—and without those citified rhinestone cowboys having a clue that it’s a sign of their culturally terminal decrepitude.

      But Kallinen is emblematic of today’s Houston, not least because his highly regarded architectural art—another specialty worth laughing at—consists of intentionally disharmonious superimposition of unrelated shapes and designs, nicely capturing a soulless materialist dystopia that’s devoid of human scale. The soulful, culturally rich Old South of black neighborhoods, meanwhile, has been wiped away by contemptuous libs, whose do-good intentions have sanctioned the conscience-free destruction of spiritually fulfilling black family life.

  12. While her 18 year old ass refuses to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance another 18 year old I know is in AIT leading her class as a 91L Construction Equipment Repairer….. That’s ok India, sit your worthless ass down while others serve to protect the country you should be honored to live in. We will stand watch in the night so you can complain about how poorly America treats you….

  13. Heads up. I am a middle school teacher in So. Cal. For YEARS my Hispanic students have refused to stand for the pledge. Sometimes they DO stand, but, when we come to the part where we say “to the United States of America,” they yell out loudly and in unison ” TO THE STATE OF MEXICO.” For years they’ve been writing “Brown Power” all over surfaces in my art room….and using the Mexican Flag as a topic of their art work…….

    It used to incense me. Now, I don’t care anymore. If it is “OK” for us to have sancturary cities in this state against Federal Laws….and nothing is done about it….if foreigners press their “RIGHTS” to come into this country illegally and are supported by our OWN lawyers and our own “immigration system,” and if I —a legal citizen—-have NO SAY in whether illegals can VOTE in this country, and can not stop them from doing so….and IF the lower courts of this country, i.e., most in CA and the West in general, including Hawaii…actually hi-jack the foreign policies of this sovereign government from the actual powers of the president and the Congress…..Then….I’ve ALREADY LOST MY COUNTRY. It belongs to the globalists already….get a CLUE….and we are running from BEHIND to “catch up” to it. Barack INSANE Obama excellerted this movement that was already set in motion by previous presidents, like Clinton….even Reagan pandered to the illegals with issuing a “one time” amnesty…….HA! “One time my A__!” It was the BEGINNING of what we see today over and over again in massive numbers…..

  14. Will she refuse to stand in the welfare line?? You can STAND for the pledge but you can refrain from reciting it. Get over it your protest has been noted, now move along.

  15. The next to last paragraph in the above article states:

    According to Texas law, students must recite the pledge unless they have a parent or guardian’s permission to opt out. Texas is one of 26 states with similar Pledge statutes.

    This means that the principle of the school is breaking the law by expelling her, and he might lose his job for expelling the girl.

  16. I think there are at least two things active here. One is the actual pledge. You really can’t make a person meaningfully recite an oath that they do not wish to be a party to.

    The second is respect. We are not “islands” and we should respect each other. The proper thing for someone who objects to the pledge to do would be to stand out of respect, even if they refuse to recite it.

    You simply can’t make someone believe something that they don’t. Personally, I would not want someone to lie about their pledge. On the other hand, I would not want someone to insult others because of their lack of belief.


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