Eugenio Scalfari, 95, is an Italian journalist, editor of the news magazine L’espresso (1963–1968), former member of parliament in the Italian Chamber of Deputies (1968–1972), co-founder of the newspaper La Repubblica and its editor from 1976 to 1996.
Scalfari is an atheist and reportedly a long time friend of Pope Francis, real name Jorge Bergoglio.
In July 2014, Scalfari reported, in an interview, Pope Francis’s claim that about 2% (or 8,000) of the Catholic Church’s total number of priests, including bishops and cardinals, were pedophiles.
In 2018, Scalfari wrote an article on his interview with Pope Francis, claiming that the pope said Hell did not exist. Scalfari later admitted that some words attributed to the pontiff “were not shared by Pope Francis” himself, whatever that means.
In an editorial in the October 8, 2019 edition of La Repubblica, Eugenio Scalfari claims that Pope Francis told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”
Whoever had the good fortune of meeting him [Pope Francis] and speaking to him with the utmost cultural confidence, as I have done several times, knows that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate. Once incarnated, Jesus ceases to be a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross…. Pope Francis told me: “I am the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once he became a man, though a man of exceptional virtues, was not at all a God.“
According to Magnani, “the Vatican was forced to correct Scalfari,” as the Vatican did on Scalfari’s previous claim that Pope Francis said “hell does not exist” or on Scalfari’s fake interviews with Bergoglio.
Director of the Vatican Press Office Matteo Bruni said in a statement:
As already stated on other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes in quotation marks to the Holy Father during the talks he had cannot be considered as a report faithful to what was actually said, but rather represent a personal and free interpretation of what he has heard . . . regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ.
Vatican spokesman Bruni then quoted what Pope Francis said in the general audience of December 18, 2013:
“God wanted to share our human condition to the point of doing one thing with us in the person of Jesus, who is true man and true God. But there is something even more surprising. The presence of God in the midst of humanity did not take place in an ideal, idyllic world, but in this real world, marked by many good and bad things, marked by divisions, wickedness, poverty, bullying and wars. He has chosen to inhabit our history as it is, with all the weight of its limits and its dramas. In doing so he demonstrated his merciful and loving inclination towards human creatures in an unsurpassable way.”
Michael Voris of Church Militant observes that Vatican spokesman Bruni “does not actually deny Scalfari’s characterization, merely hinting at the possibility. Likewise, it does not affirm in any fashion that Pope Francis does indeed hold the divinity of Christ during Our Savior’s earthly ministry.”
For his part, Michael S. Chapman of CNS News points out that if Scalfari indeed had repeatedly misquoted Pope Francis, it is curious that the Vatican website and the Vatican publishing house (LEV) have published Scalfari’s interviews with Pope Francis.
So, did Eugenio Scalfari lie?
What I do know is that Pope Francis joked about Jesus Christ’s crucifixion, is ashamed of the crucifix and conceals it so as not to offend Jews, and refuses to genuflect at the consecration of bread and wine into His Body and Blood. Those are not the behaviors of someone who believes Jesus Christ is God.
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- Pope Francis’ Vatican: a cesspool of pedophiles and homosexuals
H/t Steve Quayle