Hawaii Quashes Citizen Inquiries of Obama Birth

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The more Barack Obama conceals his original birth certificate, the more Americans want to know exactly what he is hiding and why. Reportedly, he has already spent about $2 million on lawyers and legal fees to keep that birth certificate hidden. In that, Obama is aided by the willing accomplices in the liberal media who use ridicule to dismiss and delegitimate the inquirers by calling them “birthers.”
At this point, I can just hear the clamoring voices about how Obama had already made public his birth certificate, yada yada yada. If you’re one of them, you’ve just demonstrated you are either stupid or hopelessly uninformed.
What Obama had his minions put on the web during the 2008 presidential campaign was a CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) from Hawaii (also called the “short form”), not his original “long form” birth certificate. The two are not the same. The long form is more detailed and includes the name of the birth hospital and of the attending physician. At the time when Obama was born, in 1961, one could obtain the short form certification-of-live-birth without having been born in Hawaii. In effect, the short form simply certified that a live human birth had taken place. 
Here’s a long-form birth certificate from 1963:

Here’s the short-form certification of live birth that Obama released:

After Obama won the ’08 election, he went back to Hawaii during the Christmas holiday break, ostensibly to finally put to rest his maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who had died nearly TWO months ago, a day before the presidential election. (Madelyn took care of Obama from ages 10 to 17 after his mum, Stanley Ann Dunham, had removed him from Indonesia and dumped him in Hawaii for Madelyn to raise.) While in Honolulu, Obama asked the Hawaii state government to seal his original long-form birth certificate from public scrutiny. Meanwhile, Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino obligingly issued a statement saying that she had seen Obama’s birth certificate and that he is a “natural-born American citizen.”
That hasn’t stopped Americans from asking to see the long-form birth certificate; some invoke the Freedom of Information Act. 
These requests so irk Hawaii’s government officials that the state legislature is resorting to a bill to stop these citizen inquiries, on the grounds that having to respond to the requests wastes time and money. Lorrin Kim, chief of the Hawaii Department of Health’s Office of Planning, Policy and Program Development, claims that the state gets between 10 and 20 e-mails each week, seeking verification of Obama’s birth. Kim says “a few” of these requesters continue to pepper the Health Department with the same letters, even after they’re told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have “a tangible interest.” (This is how things have come to in America: We, the People, are told we do not have “a tangible interest” in wanting to know what our president is hiding about his birth!)
The proposed bill, SB2937/SD1, is called the “vexatious requester” bill, which is aimed at circumventing current open records law. First proposed by state Senator Will Espero, the bill has already been approved by the Hawaii state Senate. It is now before the state House.
The bill’s intent is to remove the ability of a person deemed a “vexatious” or annoying requester to file an appeal with the Ombudsman as the current law allows. If the measure passes, the state Office of Information Practices can declare an individual a “vexatious requester” and restrict his or her rights to government records for two years. In plain English, what the bill does is to permit government officials to ignore people who won’t give up.
SB 2937 says: “An agency may request that the office of information practices declare that a person is a vexatious requester if it determines that the person has established a pattern of conduct that amounts to an abuse of a process set forth under this chapter.”
The bill considers any of the following behaviors to be those of a “vexatious requester”:

  1. A large quantity or broad scope of requests by the person;
  2. Splitting requests to avoid or minimize fees;
  3. Duplicative or repetitive requests made for the same action, where the agency has already responded to the request ;
  4. Requests for records submitted for a purpose other than obtaining access to the records, including nuisance value or harassment;
  5. Institution of proceedings under this chapter, including appealing requests or submitting complaints or investigation requests, without reasonable grounds, or to accomplish an objective unrelated to the purpose of the proceedings;
  6. Abandonment of requests when the fee is not waived, and the request is for a purpose other than obtaining access to the records; or
  7. Requests that only marginally promote the public interest in disclosure under this chapter, including requests focused on an agency’s handling of the requester’s own requests or correspondence.

Last Tuesday, March 16, Hawaii’s House Judiciary Committe had a public hearing on the “vexatious requester” bill. The timing was unintentionally ironic because the hearing coincided with Sunshine Week, when news organizations promote open government and freedom of information.
Nobody at the hearing questioned the assertion that Obama was born in Hawaii. However, Rep. Cynthia Thielen (R-Kaneohe-Kailua) did ask: “Do we really want to be known internationally as the Legislature that blocked any inquiries into where President Obama was born? When people want to get more information, the way to fuel that fire is to say, ‘We’re now going to draw down a veil of secrecy.'” For his part, attorney Peter Friz asked why the state would pass a law punishing repetitive requests for open records. Instead, the state could simply say it would only answer each person’s question once.
The committee will schedule a vote on the bill, said Chairman Jon Riki Karamatsu (D-Waipahu-Waikele).
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~Eowyn

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18 responses to “Hawaii Quashes Citizen Inquiries of Obama Birth

  1. Let’s get Michele Bachmann DEMAND TO SEE THESE DOCUMENTS. SHE IS BOUND BY THE CONSTITUTION TO DO THIS.
    Obama may be the greatest hoax in history. Why would he be so driven to keep them secret. The enormous powers behind him make it possible to ignore the citizen. Everything is so well planned. The passage of Obamacare will equate to martial law – the first time the Rule of Law which is so precious to this country will be ignored.
    Sunday night he will steal up to Philadelphia and use the Constitution as toilet paper.
    You are remiss my friend on the figure of the money spent. It is now past $2 million. Ask Orly Taitz.
    Thank you for reading my blog.

     
    • May, thanks for the correction on Obama having spent $2 not $1 million on his lawyers.
      Thank you for recommending FellowshipOfMinds to your readers!
      Keep the faith.

       
  2. Erick Erickson (who I am beginning to lose some respect for) is banning “trufers” and “birfers” from the threads of RedState as fast as he can hit the delete button.
    It’s his site, and he has the right to ban anyone he wishes, for any reason he chooses, but I still have a problem with it.
    I am even more suspicious now that he has been given a regular gig on the Communist News Network, which I believe had a hand in the above actions.
    He claims his problem with bifers is that the governor of Hawaii, a repub, stated that Obama’s Hawaiian birth docs were legit.
    Maybe Erick is willing to take the word of an elected official on this, repub or otherwise, but I am not so inclined.
    -Dave

     
    • Dave,
      I wish people like Erick Erickson would give a full explanation for why they preemptorily dismiss and sneer at Americans who simply want to know why Obama refuses to make public his original birth certificate. A person lies, hides, and secretes for a reason — and I want to know what that reason is when the person is the president of the United States.
      If there’s an explanation out there I haven’t seen it.
      Until they explain to me why asking about the birth certificate is so stupid, moronic, insane (pick your choice of adjective), I’ll continue asking!
      Isn’t it ironic that the people who make fun of “birthers” are probably the same people who in the 1960s used to wear “QUESTION AUTHORITY” buttons.

       
  3. Eowyn,
    Until I see positive proof, I will still have doubts about Obama’s legitimacy.
    For some weird reason, many repubs seem to be afraid of challenging Obama.
    Perhaps they fear being tagged as racists, but I have to wonder if there isn’t something a little deeper at work here.
    Not to sound too conspiratorial here, but if a POTUS that reflected a little more light (Okay, let’s say President Dave) had put the likes of Holder and Janet (Reno II) Napolitano up for cabinet positions, the repubs would have balked.
    Curious that they resisted these particular Obama picks almost not at all.
    -Dave

     
  4. Eowyn,
    It wouldn’t surprise me to learn the Comrade Chairman never graduated from high school.
    As I have noted previously, I thing we have all been had by his handlers.
    I have never seen secrecy such as we have witnessed when it comes to a POTUS, potential or sitting.
    Something stinks here.
    -Dave

     
  5. You said: “why Obama refuses to make public his original birth certificate. ”
    Obama has made public his OFFICIAL birth certificate. The facts on it–that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961–were confirmed twice by the top officials of the Department of Health of Hawaii.
    This is sufficient.

     
    • JTF,
      You obviously did not read my post, nor have you compared the long-form birth certificate vs. the short-form CERTIFICATION of live birth that Obama put on the web. If you had, you wouldn’t write this piece of stupidity: “Obama has made public his OFFICIAL birth certificate.”
      Tell me, exactly how much are you paid by the hour at Organizing For America? Or are you at one of the many ACORN branches and front organizations?

       
    • justthefacts,
      WRONG!!!! He has made nothing “PUBLIC”. He has shown a “Certificate of Live Birth” that only proves he was born. Not when or where. The Hawaiian official who says they have seen his original birth certificate is for all anyone knows as BIG A LIAR as Obama, or should I say, Barry Soetoro.!! He has not shown any legal document that shows he changed his name back to B.O.
      Your argument is not SUFFICIENT for true AMERCANS.

       
  6. You said: “If you had, you wouldn’t write this piece of stupidity: “Obama has made public his OFFICIAL birth certificate.”
    First, I assume you are not being paid anything. Well, neither am I.
    The facts are that the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department and the branches of the military. AND, the facts also are that the two officials in Hawaii–who happen to be members of a Republican governor’s administration have said that there is an original birth certificate in the files and that it shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. And, the facts are that Hawaii no longer sends out the original birth certificate; it only sends out the Certification. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html)
    The facts also are that there is no proof or even a good story that Obama was born in Kenya. His Kenyan grandmother did not say that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.
    Also, Obama did not lose his citizenship while in Indonesia. It is impossible to lose your US citizenship unless there is proof that you legally signed a document renouncing citizenship and that document is witnessed by a State Department officer. The US State Department has said that Obama never was a citizen of Indonesia.
    Also. Obama never legally changed his name to Soetoro, so he is and always was Obama.
    Since the Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by the US State Department, it is of course legal proof of being born in the USA. This is far more proof than any other president has shown.

     
    • Since you are big on facts, the facts are that:
      1. In the United States, where presumably it is still the Rule of Law, the way to certify an uncontested document is with the signature of a notary public; and the way to certify a contested document is in court by legal experts. Neither method has been taken with regard to Obama’s birth document.
      2. In the United States, we don’t accept hearsay as legal certification — not by FactCheck, not by Hawaii state officials speaking to the press (instead of in court where if they lie, they’ll be guilty of perjury), not by you, not by me.
      3. In the United States, just because other presidents haven’t had their birth questioned and contested doesn’t mean citizens can’t question about the birth of the present POTUS. Or aren’t you familiar with the Constitutional right of freedom of speech?
      4. The fact is that you don’t really know what names Obama has or hasn’t used because he has ordered his personal records sealed, including all his college/university transcripts, his long-form birth certificate, his short-form Certification of Live Birth, etc. etc. And if you know Obama has never used a name other than Barack Hussein Obama, please point us to the evidence.
      5. The fact is that I don’t really give a sh*t that the Hawaii officials are Republicans. I’m registered a nonpartisan Independent; I believe, as did the Founding Fathers, that ALL human beings are both good and bad, including Republicans who do not have an exclusive claim to virtue. Nor do I believe all Democrats or rich people or poor people are exclusively evil — or good.
      6. The fact is that nowhere in this post or on this blog have I ever claimed, hinted, or insinuated that I believe Obama was born in Kenya. Those are your words. I have no idea where he was born because his purported birth certificate has never been legally certified.
      7. The fact is that you are oddly lacking in curiosity about why Obama refuses to have a court certify not just his birth document — be it short or long-form — whereas I am curious. The more someone hides something, the more I want to know because secrecy entails deception, especially if that someone is the president of the United States and, therefore, arguably the most powerful human in the world.
      8. Finally, unlike you, my primary allegiance is to the Constitution of the United States, not to a political party nor to an individual. Nothing will make me happier than to have legal certification that Obama indeed was born in America, although that still leaves the matter of his supposed biological father being a British citizen by way of Kenya — which, according to some constitutional lawyers, would violate what the Founders meant by “a natural born citizen.”

       
  7. Hello, everyone,
    My name is Judy. I am a brainwashed Obamabot who insists on posting obnoxious comments on a conservative blog — a blog that is under no obligation to publish my comments. Nevertheless, like “my name is Legion,” I have many faces and personas. Each time FellowshipOfMinds banned me, I come back with a different e-mail address and IP, that is how obnoxious I am. In total, I’ve used 4 different e-mail addresses and IPs.
    Furthermore, with each new comment under a different handle with a different e-mail address and IP, the avatar that wordpress randomly assigns me gets uglier and uglier — a fitting mirror reflection of my soul!
    [Judy’s original comment was erased and substituted with this because this is the only way to stop her. -Editor]

     
  8. No one believes birthers anymore. That is why they remove the statements from people who disagree with them. Glenn Beck does not believe birthers. Ann Coulter does not believe birthers. Bill O’Reilly does not believe birthers. Fox News does not believe birthers.
    If birthers were willing to discuss the facts, that might be different.

     
    • Hello, Judy, aka Justthefacts!
      I see you’re finally owning up to your name: My name is “Legion”! Congrats! Now, in the Name of Our Lord, go into that herd of swine.
      P.S. Unlike Obamabots, we do not march to the orders of anyone — be it Beck, Coulter, or good grief, O’Reilly. We have the faculty of reason that God gave us — and common sense tells us that Obama’s employment of $2 million to avoid showing his birth documents in court is to conceal. Oh, by the way, nobody believed Global Warming skeptics either!

       
  9. Obama has shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii.
    Like many states, Hawaii now releases only the short-form birth certificate, which it calls the Certification of Live Birth (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html). However, this is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and when it says on it “born in Hawaii,” as Obama’s birth certificate does, it is accepted as proof of birth in the USA by both the US State Department and the branches of the US military. In Obamas’ case, the officials in Hawaii—who happen to be members of a Republican governor’s team—have said twice that the original document, which they said is an original birth certificate, confirms that Obama was born in Hawaii.
    Obama’s Kenyan grandmother never said that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.

     
    • Hello, ellenbarrons/Judy/Justthefacts/Legion!
      It’s you again! Do you know how I know? Because you write EXACTLY the same crap as Judy/JTF/Legion!!
      Truly, you are Satan, for you never sleep. And this new e-address will also be banned!

       

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