Hanoi Jane met with protest in Frederick; hopes for open dialogue with Vietnam-era veterans

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Frederick News Post: Jane Fonda said she hoped for an open dialogue with veterans after about 50 former military members and supporters protested the actress’s appearance Friday evening at the Weinberg Center for the Arts.
“Whenever possible I try to sit down with vets and talk with them, because I understand and it makes me sad,” Fonda told a relatively full theater, responding to a submitted question. “It hurts me and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers.”
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In 1972 Fonda visited Hanoi, North Vietnam, where she criticized attacks on the dike system along the Red River. A U.S. investigation later revealed the publicity of these bombings as propaganda. Fonda’s statements and a photograph of her sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft battery outraged many Americans and veterans, leading many to call her “Hanoi Jane” and a “traitor.”

Bob Hartman, an Army veteran who served in Vietnam in 1967 and 1968, said he blamed Fonda for breaking off negotiations among the countries and held her responsible for thousands of American lives.
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“She encouraged North Vietnam to pull away from the negotiations table,” he said, holding a sign outside the Court Street parking garage to protest her presence. “She got Americans killed … and she went to Vietnam to advance her husband’s career.”
About 50 veterans, many of whom served in Vietnam, held signs saying “Forgive? Maybe. Forget? Never” and waved flags outside the theater for about two hours, occasionally booing people entering the Weinberg Center, including state Sen. Ron Young.
“But those people out there … I’m a lightning rod,” Fonda said. “This famous person goes and does something that looks like I’m against the troops, which wasn’t true, but it looked that way, and I’m a convenient target. So I understand.”
However, Fonda said she did not regret traveling to North Vietnam, saying her time there was “an incredible experience.”
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“We feel what she did was so egregious … (she) really cost lives,” said Mike McGowan, a Marine Corps veteran who served as an infantryman in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969.
Among the protesters was Frederick County Councilman Tony Chmelik, who said he decided to support the veterans in honor of his father, who served in the military. “(We want to) let everybody know we haven’t forgotten,” said Tommy Grunwell, a Marine Corps veteran who served in Vietnam and helped organize the protest.
At least one person turned out to demonstrate in favor of Fonda, saying the actress’s work as an activist and founder of nonprofits helping women should also be recognized and represented. “I feel like you can’t vilify Jane Fonda but not vilify our government,” said Gabrielle Hash, who stood among veterans holding a handmade poster in support of Fonda.
During her hourlong talk, Fonda discussed the importance of adolescence in shaping women’s and men’s lives, and how she regained her courage and spunk in the “third act” of her life upon turning 60. “My voice went underground, and it took me a long, long time to get it back,” she said.
Through working with adolescents at the nonprofits she founded, Fonda said she discovered that most girls are “whole” before approaching puberty; they know what they want and are not afraid to voice it. But upon entering adolescence, this voice fades as girls are pressured to fit in and mold themselves to society’s ideals of a thin, popular woman.
“Her voice doesn’t disappear, but it goes underground,” Fonda said, describing how this plagued her through three marriages.
But for boys, many are led to believe they need to act strong and fearless from the time they enter the formal school system at age 6, according to Fonda. “They become emotionally illiterate,” she said, adding that some of these boys later become violent when their masculinity is threatened in any way.
In describing her own struggles with age, marriage and respect, Fonda urged audience members to seek forgiveness and happiness through small changes like daily meditation or walks outside for a longer and more fulfilled life.
“If … we can manage to think positively … we can actually alter the pathways in our brains,” she said. “I’ve experienced it, so I know it’s true. It takes work, it takes intention. But man, is it worth it.”
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0 responses to “Hanoi Jane met with protest in Frederick; hopes for open dialogue with Vietnam-era veterans

  1. Hey FONDA!! “We didn’t forget!”

     
  2. Nasty bitch and she is a traitor. She disgusts me and is an insult to those who served.
    To Hanoi Jane: Your words mean nothing. Your actions prove what you are and will always be, a traitor. I spit on her.

     
  3. Hanoi Jane said: “But those people out there … I’m a lightning rod. This famous person goes and does something that looks like I’m against the troops, which wasn’t true, but it looked that way, and I’m a convenient target. So I understand.”
    Not only is she still not taking responsibility for her actions and words, she’s portraying herself as a victim. Her statement above also is extremely condescending, treating the military veterans — who remember what she did — as simpletons and fools.

     
  4. She is the fool here and liar to boot. There are no words or actions that she can say or do that will undo her past actions. I am not a veteran but come from a military family and I recall quite vividly how disgusted and offensive what she did was to my friends who were and still are in military.

     
  5. I just have no use for the irresponsibility of the Hollyweird crowd. They need to THINK before they act. Our Lord requires that we forgive as we are forgiven but for these veterans I can understand them NEVER forgetting and the bitterness they still feel towards her. She hurt them deeply during a war and a time that was not kind to the young men sent over there to do what their country asked them to.

     
  6. Vietnam vet, 1967-68. Traitorous Bitch. I’ll never forget…. and I sure as hell have no forgiveness in my heart for this Traitorous Bitch.
    Burn in hell forever, Hanoi Jane…. you Traitorous Bitch.
    The blood of heroes is on your hands, you worthless, disgusting…..
    Traitorous Bitch.
    …. and take that horse faced traitorous bastard next to you in that photo with you…..
    You (don’t) have a friend……. not here, not now, not ever.
    …. and you can shove those leg warmers up your ass.

     
  7. Wonder just what she meditates on, and just what would make her an expert on raising children that people would listen to her. Sorry, I have no respect for her, and certainly would never waste my time going to hear her speak about anything.

     
  8. Reblogged this on Patriotic Gofer and commented:
    I am NOT Fonda Jane and never will be. Besides thumbing her nose at us Vietnam Veterans, she nearly caused one of our P.O.W.s to be killed, through more torture. Yeah… she did! One of the prisoners she visited and gave her anti-war speech to, tried to pass a note to home to her. She handed it over to the North Vietnamese officers that she was with. That soldier paid a nasty price because of trying to trust this particular “American”. ( Term VERY loosely used! )
    As a Vietnam Veteran ( 70-71 ) I will forgive, because my LORD says I should, in order to be forgiven. BUT…. never will I forget. Forgiving does NOT mean I have to like her. That just isn’t gonna happen.

     
    • I am so glad that you brought up that incident. It certainly shows that she was not an “innocent dupe.” She did something that was an overt act which brought harm to an American soldier. I just hope that she does not out live American patriots which will protest her where ever she may appear–so that she does not forget her own treasonous behavior. If I am not mistaken, she has previously said in response to protestors–that they really didn’t matter, or were irrelevant, which shows she really has no remorse for her actions way back then. Wouldn’t you think as old as she is, that she would have smartened up during all those decades, but, no–she remains a traitor!

       
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    There you go again with another conspiracy theory.

     
  10. Too little too late. She did what she did when she did it and knew what she was doing. She was then and still is a traitor.

     
  11. She can twist the meanings of the words she said all she wants to,but we saw what she DID,and that’s a bell she can’t un-ring. Her credibility is in the triple digit negatives now.

     
  12. I was talking with some friends about this incident and was told that some of the other POWs there said that the note passing incident never happened. So, I may have to stand corrected until I find out otherwise. If I”m wrong, I’ll offer apologies right here and now.
    Still and all … she was and still is a traitor to me and should be treated as such.

     
    • Actually, the truth is even worse than we had thought. Jane Fonda was in contact with a North Vietnamese intelligence officer before, during, and after the VN War. She most certainly is a traitor.
      http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/08/21/jane-fonda-her-north-vietnamese-intelligence-officer/

       
      • God Bless you Dr Eowyn for bringing out the full extent of Jane Fonda’s treacherous behavior. My Father served in WWII, and until the day he died–he hated Fonda for her actions in Viet Nam, and I think all four of his kids took from his example. I never pay money to see any movie she is in. She is deserving of being shunned, and protested against when she makes personal appearances.

         
    • I remember hearing about the note passing decades ago. Knowing her, it happened.

       
    • Col. David Hunt, author of They Just Don’t Get It, was asked about those notes on Hannity & Colmes:
      COLMES: Colonel, look, there is some dispute about whether she actually handed notes to POWs.
      HUNT: Not the POWs I talked to…. What she did in that picture — that’s nothing compared to what she did with the POWs and handing them notes…. This is not about forgiving soldiers you fought against. This is about forgiving a woman who took notes from guys that were tortured for years, six, seven, eight, nine years, like McCain, and take the note and give it to their guard. That is unconscionable. I’m not sure she can be forgiven…. But the Hanoi Hilton, I mean, to take a tour and shake hands with prisoners and they’re giving you secret notes and to take those notes and give them to the guards, that’s inexcusable and that’s why most of us have had trouble with her ever since.
      http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/04/21/should-vietnam-vets-forgive-jane-fonda/

       
  13. This post and the comments that follow are certainly an eye-opener for me. In my young and dumb days, I actually admired movies like Coming Home and actors like Jane Fonda. I believed all the leftist BS about actors and filmmakers being artists. I see now that they are all useful idiots at best, and traitors at worst. They project themselves as victims in order to serve their grandiose and narcissist personalities. Legends in their own minds, forever denying reality.

     
  14. To all my brothers, who’ve posted above, I say, “WELCOME HOME”!!
    I belong to Vietnam Veterans of America and strongly suggest you guys join a local chapter. It’s been a lot of years since the war and since we were spit on, coming home. It’s time for healing. My local chapter ( NW Mt. Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 1087 ) has right around 88 members and an average of 37 members who regularly attend meetings and participate in our activities. We have a new Facebook page, also. VVA’s mission is to make sure that no other veterans come home and receive the treatment we did. Please look for a local chapter and join. You won’t regret it.,

     
  15. God Bless all veterans for their service to our country!

     
  16. I’m hoping she’ll try holding her breath until any ‘Nam Vets are willing to have an ‘open dialogue’ with that idiot bitch. Who ever it is, it won’t be me.

     

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