Germany's Ethics Council calls for legalization of incest

We really must be living in the end of days.
It isn’t enough that Germany has “bestiality brothels” and “erotic zoos,” a government advisory body is now recommending the legalization of incest.
The German Ethics Council (Deutscher Ethikrat) is an independent body of 26 academics and “persons of repute” specializing in scientific, medical, theological, ethical, social, economic and legal concerns, who are charged by the 2007 Ethics Council Act to advise the German Bundestag (national parliament) and the Federal Government on questions of ethics, society, science, medicine and law.
Lizzie Dearden reports for the UK’s The Independent that Germany’s national ethics council has called for the decriminalization and legalization of incest between siblings, after examining the case of a man, Patrick Stuebing, who had four children with his sister, Susan Karolewski. The two were not brought up together.

Patrick Stuebing and Susan Karolewski

Patrick Stuebing and Susan Karolewski

Sexual relations between siblings or between parents and their children are forbidden under section 173 of the German criminal code. Offenders can face years in prison.
But on Sept. 24, 2014, by a vote of 14 to 9, the German Ethics Council recommended section 173 be repealed, arguing that the risk of disability in children conceived by incestuous couples is not enough to warrant the law. The chairman of the council, Christiane Woopen, was among the 14 members who had voted in favor of repeal.
Members of the Ethics Council who objected to decriminalizing incest argued that it would weaken “ethically significant” family values that contribute towards personal development.
In a statement outlining its recommendations, the Ethics Council said the law against incest “put couples in a tragic situation”:
“Incest between siblings appears to be very rare in Western societies according to the available data but those affected describe how difficult their situation is in light of the threat of punishment. They feel their fundamental freedoms have been violated and are forced into secrecy or to deny their love. The Ethics Council has been told of cases where half-siblings did not grow up together and have only met in their adult lives.
The majority of the German Ethics Council is of the opinion that it is not appropriate for a criminal law to preserve a social taboo. In the case of consensual incest among adult siblings, neither the fear of negative consequences for the family, nor the possibility of the birth of children from such incestuous relationships can justify a criminal prohibition. The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination has more weight in such cases than the abstract protection of the family.
In the case of Patrick Stuebing, he was adopted at a young age and traced his birth family in his early 20s. He and his sister Susan Karolewski, who were not brought up together, met for the first time when they were aged 24 and 16 respectively. Stuebing was convicted of incest in 2008 and spent three years in prison, failing an appeal to the Federal Constitutional Court in 2008 and to the European Court of Human Rights over his rights to a family life in 2012. Karolewski was allowed to keep custody of their youngest child but the other three were taken into care. Two are disabled, although it is not known whether incest is the cause.
A spokeswoman for German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union party, Elisabeth Winkelmeier-Becker, responded to the Ethics Council’s vote saying that the abolition of the law against incest would give out the wrong signal because “Abolishing criminal punishment against incestuous actions within a family would go completely against protecting the undisturbed development of children.”
The Ethics Council’s recommendation only covered incest between siblings and members did not recommend decriminalizing sex between parents and children.
At least not yet.
H/t FOTM’s josephbc69
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  1. “love is love”, right? Sickening.

     
  2. Reblogged this on The Political Chef™ Blog and commented:
    EGADS…I have never understood intelligentsia and progressives being en amour-ed with Europeans…they are backwards, this article is proof…yeesh

     
  3. Reblogged this on Ace News Desk 2014 and commented:
    #AND2014

     
  4. This is just unbelievable! If I understand this correctly–50% of the children (two out of four) were born with disabilities. Why, Oh Why don’t people stand up and protect the 50% who “lost the lottery,” and got the genes for disabilities. These two loonies must be more interested in “banging” than worrying about what may happen to any offspring. I would say they were rather selfish. The article noted he was “24” and she was “16” (still a child) when they first met. I would be interested in knowing what age she was when their sexual relationship began. Sadly, government officials just don’t give a damn when it comes to protecting the young and innocent–just as long as the liberal agenda gets moved forward! Dr Eowyn, thank you for keeping up abreast of items such as this.

     
  5. This group of people, these people that are considered of good character beyond repute, should be considered for “restructuring”. With all the information we have on this case study that is supposed to be the “supporting element” of incest, has 2 of 4 children disabled, and yet there is no determination of the disability being from incest or not. IF that group was operating in “good faith” and to produce a conclusion for the publics well being, then don’t you think that question of how those 2 kids became disabled should be answered? We are supposed to “overlook” the issue because the parents are star eyed idiots? Being one of those “people” that are supposed to be honorable beyond reproach, and NOT finding the answer to that question means to me, that those people are NOT qualified to be in that position, and all of them regardless of what their vote is, should be dismissed. Why? Because they didn’t get all the information they needed in order to even START considering such a thing. And all of them should have recognized that fact. Even ONE of them should have sent up flares stating the argument could not be resolved with the given subject matter. They were all party to making a decision that will affect the whole society for too long of a time to be so “flippant”.

     
  6. These people aren’t considering that there’s a reason beyond ethic and spiritual reasons why this is just WRONG;it’s been known for hundreds of years that a baby fathered by a blood relative to the mother stands a very real likelihood of suffering birth defects,in this case 50% (that we KNOW of).
    That alone should be considered “Child Endangerment”,and thus,should remain illegal.

     
  7. IT DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFINITION OF PERVERTISION THE WEST WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH —- THIS
    ITS CALLED LIFE-STYLE CHOICE
    EVERYTHING ELSE GOES — SO SHEEP SHAGGING IS THE NEW NORM
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2352779/Bestiality-brothels-spreading-Germany-campaigner-claims-abusers-sex-animals-lifestyle-choice.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/bestiality-brothels-germany_n_3582771.html
    In 17 states bestiality/zoophilia is still legal. This includes Guam and American Samoa. The other states where it’s legal are Alabama, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kentucky, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming and the District of Columbia.
    Examples of moral inversion abound. What once was called bad is now called good. What once was frowned upon is now celebrated. What once was seen as deviant behaviour is now regarded as just another lifestyle choice. What once was taboo is now all the rage.
    In the brave new world of moral anarchy, the only unacceptable activity is to actually state that certain things are still wrong. With tolerance so-called, and moral relativism reigning, anything goes, except for one thing: to actually stand for morality, for right and wrong, for truth and error.
    One of the world’s most famous and celebrated ethicists has come out in favour of bestiality.
    Princeton University’s Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics, Peter Singer, is on record as stating that there is nothing wrong with having sex with animals, as long as it is consensual, and no harm is done to the animal. (I WONDER DOES THE ANIMAL GIVE A NOD OR WRITTEN CONSENT)
    The World cheers at it prepares to go the way of the old pagan Roman Empire
    “And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.” —- Romans 1:27
    The West has gotten to a peculiar point in its illustrious history, and it’s precisely the same place that the Roman Empire arrived at just before they collapsed into the dustbin of history. The Roman Empire had their coliseums, we have our stadiums.
    Rome had gladiators, America has line-backers. Rome fed the Christians to lions, America is ostracizing anyone and everyone who takes a stand on moral principles and common decency
    Rome displayed open homosexuality and all manners of perversion, and so do we.
    The book of Ecclesiastes says “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be“. America is now preparing to enter the same dustbin that claimed Rome.
    In the name of “progress” and “tolerance” we have allowed the profane and perverted to become the normal. If a man dressed like a woman, it was something deviant, something wrong – abnormal
    A ridiculous looking transsexual man wearing a ballroom gown, sporting a full beard, with cascading, womanly hair won the Eurovision Song Contest in the UK to the applause of watching millions. — (A PERVERT)
    Warren Buffett pays for the murder 3,000 babies per day, and they laugh about it. The UK also operate a kill list — women mockingly film videos for YouTube showing off how proud they are to snuff out the life which they created.
    Now we have Michael Sam, the first openly-queer NFL football player.
    Corporate America will fall over each other in the rush to put him in their advertising in the name of “diversity”.
    Anyone who won’t pay him homage with rich contracts will be branded as a “hater”, and the Gay Mafia will seek to destroy that person.
    WARNING — Look, America, look up on the wall of the White House.
    Do you see that giant finger writing something? — Look close and read it, it says: “MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN”.
    What does it mean? – “God has numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.”
    WATCH YELLOWSTONE — AS IN THE DAYS OF SODOM – BOOM

     
  8. Absolutely horrific and sickening! The German Ethics Council is a good example of “ethics” upside down; calling evil, good, and calling good, evil.

     
  9. The reason for this needed change is really due to the ever increasing muslim population that now calls Germany home. IMHO more laws will be changed to accommodate the muslims perversions as well,

     
  10. How the Christian nation of Martin Luther has fallen. And the great Catholic nations of Europe, the home of the greatest cathedrals, and of the recorders of history. How could they have been so fallen that they fell into the carnage of WW2 and Hitler’s Germany? I am so grieved, there are no words available to me.

     
  11. This proves the foundational plank of eugenics can and will be cast aside in favor of satanism. After all, lest we forget, birth defects et al was the big excuse for eugenics (and also a prohibition against incest) back in the 1800’s up to now, and is still used for that excuse. Perhaps this indicates that the eugenics excuse is truly only a ruse utilized as an excuse, which is being done away with because it has an unintended consequence of prohibiting incest, which conflicts with the plans of the puppets of evil. Just a guess on my part.
    and in other bad news there is this: http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/19181-sex-education-for-five-year-olds-pushed-by-pedophiles apparently vegas is proving it should have stayed a barren land. (retrieved from Henry Makow’s twitter, credit goes to him for finding this)

     
  12. Thanks for sharing this one. I am subscribed and read your blog all the time. Just don’t have the time to comment much. God Bless you doing God’s work informing us Christians

     
  13. Reblogged this on mgtrrz's Blog and commented:
    Are We So Gone ‘ASTRAY’ In Our WORLD That ‘Ethics’ Council of GERMANY DARES Declare INCEST ‘LEGAL’ !?!?!?

     
  14. They are living proof what happens when defective genes are kept within the kin. The woman ist demented herself, the man is not the brightest lightbulb on the xmas tree either, and their four creations are fairly damaged, as expected. Having gone to German schools, they must have learnt at school why one should not procreate within the family.
    If you want to know what it looks like when incest becomes a way of life, take a look at the Pitcairn Island population.
    Or check out procreating tactics and their results in muslim countries http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v44/n6/images_article/ng.2259-F1.jpg
    Not for me.

     

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