Frustrated AMA adopts sweeping policies to cut gun violence

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A bunch of feel-good policies that do nothing but infringe upon our Constitutional rights.
From Yahoo:  (Chicago [oh, the irony starts right there]) – With frustration mounting over lawmakers’ inaction on gun control, the American Medical Association on Tuesday pressed for a ban on assault weapons and came out against arming teachers as a way to fight what it calls a public health crisis.
At its annual policymaking meeting, the nation’s largest physicians group bowed to unprecedented demands from doctor-members to take a stronger stand on gun violence — a problem the organizations says is as menacing as a lethal infectious disease.
The action comes against a backdrop of recurrent school shootings, everyday street violence in the nation’s inner cities, and rising U.S. suicide rates.
“We as physicians are the witnesses to the human toll of this disease,” Dr. Megan Ranney, an emergency-medicine specialist at Brown University, said at the meeting.
AMA delegates voted to adopt several of nearly a dozen gun-related proposals presented by doctor groups that are part of the AMA’s membership. They agreed to:

  • Support any bans on the purchase or possession of guns and ammunition by people under 21.
  • Back laws that would require licensing and safety courses for gun owners and registration of all firearms.
  • Press for legislation that would allow relatives of suicidal people or those who have threatened imminent violence to seek court-ordered removal of guns from the home.
  • Encourage better training for physicians in how to recognize patients at risk for suicide.
  • Push to eliminate loopholes in laws preventing the purchase or possession of guns by people found guilty of domestic violence, including expanding such measures to cover convicted stalkers.

Many AMA members are gun owners or supporters, including a doctor from Montana who told delegates of learning to shoot at a firing range in the basement of her middle school as part of gym class. But support for banning assault weapons was overwhelming, with the measure adopted in a 446-99 vote.
“There’s a place to start and this should be it,” Dr. Jim Hinsdale, a San Jose, California, trauma surgeon, said before the vote.
Gun violence is not a new issue for the AMA; it has supported past efforts to ban assault weapons; declared gun violence a public health crisis; backed background checks, waiting periods and better funding for mental health services; and pressed for more research on gun violence prevention.
But Dr. David Barbe, whose one-year term as AMA president ended Tuesday, called the number of related measures on this year’s agenda extraordinary and said recent violence, including the Parkland, Florida, school shooting and the Las Vegas massacre, “spurred a new sense of urgency … while Congress fails to act.”
“It has been frustrating that we have seen so little action from either state or federal legislators,” he said. “The most important audience for our message right now is our legislators, and second most important is the public, because sometimes it requires public pressure on the legislators.”
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Rick Johnson
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Rick Johnson

How about searching for the cure of major diseases ? While you’re at it, stop poisoning people with your damn vaccination program.

Pat Riot
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Pat Riot

Cures are bad for business. If you cure someone, it’s bad business. The medical establishment wants people to be sick, feed big pharma, be enslaved on a never ending disease, pain and suffering management program; that pays! Curing people does not bring in the cash! Follow the money.

christy
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christy

Right!

Chris
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Chris

Nothing listed about mental illnesses or the over use of mind altering drugs. Just guns, guns are the problem, well it takes a person to use the gun. Just doctors on the big pharma payroll pushing the deep state narrative. ?

Pat Riot
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Pat Riot

Amen!

Seumas
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Seumas

I greatly suspect that they won’t push for bans on the drugs, since the pharmacidal corps they’re in partnership with are the reason behind the epidemic in the first place… remember bayer corp (who recently assimilated monsanto, and now stands a giant monstrosity corporation, poisoning plants as well as people.) was directly responsible for flooding the public with heroin. The drugs, when not produced by lowlife independent agents, likely come from the pharmaceutical company labs, can’t have that getting traced back and leading to links with organized crime etc. it would ruin their plans.

Pat Riot
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Pat Riot

AMA – American Mafiosi Association. Doctors, with honorable but increasgly rare exceptions, are sicarios for big pharma, and many, are just plain criminals, so this does not astonish me at all!

Seumas
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Seumas

Recently I was handed some sheets from a doctor’s office for a new patient sign up, the questions became prying, pointless, and included asking about gun ownership, not just of myself but others in the household, now what business does a doc have getting that information, hm? Needless to say I was repulsed, and did not bother with the paperwork. (this was last year, which shows they’ve probably been planning to implement this, and worse, for a while.) Cutting through the bolshevik boo-hoo tactic, this is about profiling the citizenry, and encouraging, not preventing suicide, using the medical sector as… Read more »

christy
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christy

Has anyone else had to have their picture taken by the doctor’s office.
This has happened to us even at the dentists office. It bothered me but
maybe I am just more paranoid than others?

Dr. Eowyn
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No.
I would refuse to have my pic taken.

truckjunkie
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truckjunkie

Tell them you want to take THEIR pictures-just to assist in identifying those entrusted with YOUR healthcare.

Lophatt
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Lophatt

Then ask them to get undressed.

Seumas
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Seumas

Yep, they’re nuts about filching photographs, even if they don’t ask first, in some cases, it would seem. They’re really just using that to grab your facial recognition & facial geometry data, I would suspect. Who knows where it goes after being chucked into their databases… I also suspect it is used to correlate with any malcontent remarks to build a profile of people as “terrorists” or “potential threats”, etc.
No need to wait for the “papers please” dystopian model, its already here, just with more “window dressing”… for now.

Lophatt
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Lophatt

These “health” groups sell information. I noticed the other day that when my doctor prescribed an inhaler the instant I got home my computer featured ads for nebulizers that I’ve never looked into.
Recently there have been articles on phones listening to our conversations and recording them. Everything is for sale for the right price.

Dave
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Dave

Census forms are even worse.

cogitoergosumantra
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I saw the young female doctor in the news conference… Idealist Millennial.
Didn’t hear her mention criminals’ access to guns (nor other vehicles of their illegal acts).
So, prevent law-abiding citizens from legally obtaining guns to protect themselves, but leave the actual criminals to their dirty deeds unchecked. Great idea!

daveyone1
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TheRon
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TheRon

I’m sure they would support EXEMPTING government agents and private security companies from these gun control. And they do NOT want schools to have the same armed protection that government buildings, sports and entertainment venues have. Think about that.

Auntie Lulu
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Auntie Lulu

Since the government now has access to all your medical files, supposedly so that better medical care can be given, by the swift transfer of files to other doctors in case of emergency. I am sure that if every doctor were to start asking patients about gun ownership — that information can be accessed by the Federal government.

Alma
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Alma

Corruption has descended to the lowest it has contaminated the American Medical Association, some doctors are more concerned with paying their malpractice insurance than taking care of patients, mind you, there are those physicians that love their professions, they have been chosen to see what ails and cures us, but some have been so enamoured with money they don’t care. I love my doctors because with God’s help and their knowledge cured my cancer, but it’s best they use their knowledge saving people and leave the lawmakers do what they have been chosen to do best, legislate.

Flanders
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Flanders

Excellent comment, Alma, and thanks to your doctors from the rest of us. Here is an article with more details about the present motivations of some doctors within the AMA, which you might like to read. It, too, is by a doctor. “Even today, the public still views the AMA as a solidly conservative and unified professional association of America’s doctors in all 50 states. This perception is still strong years after the AMA morphed in the 1990s from that generally accurate description into an oligarchic, self-sustaining, entrenched management-operated liberal activist group. Coincident with that transformation has been a steady… Read more »

Flanders
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Flanders

“It’s no secret that the American Medical Association (AMA) has often taken a decidedly anti-gun stance, calling “gun violence” a public health crisis rather than the criminal violence problem that it actually is. But that approach isn’t flying with some medical professionals. Here is a letter one person wrote to rebut the AMA’s recent editorial on guns.”
https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2018/1/4/doctor-responds-to-ama-s-anti-gun-stance/

Flanders
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Flanders

“Know what’s happening. Know and understand your enemies. Know where the attacks are coming from. Destroy the flanking maneuvers.
My father once told me that the AMA was the tightest, strongest fraternity outside of the communist party. An enemy is dangerous if they are devoted to each other.”
See the comment: “On May 29, 2018 at 12:13 am, Steve Silverstein said:”
https://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/05/28/the-ama-on-gun-control/

TPR
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TPR

“Physician, Heal THYSELF”(!!) If doctors need MORE training on how to recognize a suicidal person, they must not be very good doctors. Hey, docs, try reading a few articles in your spare time. There usually are specific signs, so start there. And what a fallacy they’ve swallowed if they think No Guns = No Suicides. Proposing a Snitch Society to basically Create Paranoia in people who know anyone who owns a gun is not mentally healthy either. All their druggery also doesn’t help. Many drugs CREATE suicidal ideation. I’m surprised their first proposal didn’t say: “Petition Big Pharma to spend… Read more »

Flanders
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Flanders

This excerpt below is from the first article appearing at this link further below:
“The AMA versus Americans”, by Robert B. Young, MD
Jumping aboard progressive bandwagons is the main tactic left to the AMA to wield influence, since it now includes no more than 25% of America’s physicians as members, even though it claims to represent us all. Its leadership has left most physicians behind by focusing on politics more than medicine and undercutting physician autonomy by supporting Obamacare”.
https://www.haciendapub.com/category/tags/ama

Lophatt
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Lophatt

Gee, I wonder what the Janitorial Workers think? One would hope for a higher level of logic with this group, but alas, it isn’t the case. All this talk of “gun violence” with no real evidence of it’s truth. “Assault weapons” are clearly on their agenda. Anything that assists the eaters in leveling the playing field must be done away with. Doesn’t anybody respect liberty anymore? I don’t want them to do anything. The premise quite clearly is “we have to DO something”. Why? They created the hype that think they need to accomplish their owner’s wishes. Looks like they’re… Read more »

Flanders
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Flanders

I know that you already are aware of this, Lophatt. The (((media and MSM))) also partner with almost all gun control rhetoric, intentionally depriving factual information from the widespread American public, including the masses of ignorant and poorly informed individuals among our people, who are who listen to them the most, but who have the same voting power as our aware and knowledgeable Americans. That is why we need a media which truly is American – and not the “dual-citizen” kind of “Jamericans who now control it – and, who merely portray themselves with our national label” type of public… Read more »

Lophatt
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Lophatt

Yes, like I say. They don’t work for us. Those they DO work for want us disarmed and ignorant. They do a fine job at that.

YYZ
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YYZ

Just a little reminder that it was the AMA that came out not only in favor of Obamacare but dressed up in their white lab coats at the president’s request for a photo op – key tactic get ‘reputable’ org’s to sell your message to the (low info) masses to gain legitimacy – same as was done with AARP. NEVER FORGET -t’s all about optics, truth be damned.

Mrs. Pol Reader
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Mrs. Pol Reader

This isn’t about gun control. It’s about social control posing as altruism that will be used to literally bar RKBA Americans exercising god-given constitutional rights from receiving health care. This is literally Big Pharma’s next step in death panels. Doctors and hospitals kill more people each year than firearms by a factor of many (sorry, don’t have the data at my fingertips at the moment). But that doesn’t matter. What matters is using Big Pharma and its hospitals and power and money and surveillance and data to target dissidents and further interfere in their lives and control every aspect of… Read more »

Mrs. Pol Reader
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Mrs. Pol Reader

By the way, is the AMA concerned about the Sackler Drug Family and the millions of Americans they have destroyed or killed?

Brian Heinz
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How about the fact that DR.s kill more people in hospitals every year on Mal-practice than guns do every yr. So here is a novel idea lets ban bad DR’s not guns we can not control what people do with weapons but we can stop DR.’s who repeatedly end up killing people because of incompetence. If you think of it that way then it’s the bad guy telling us we don’t need the guns and pushing that agenda onto the American People.

Lophatt
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Lophatt

No kidding. Which is more dangerous? (1) guns, or (2) doctors? I’ll wait.

chemtrailssuck
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My long time neighbor/friend just died after suffering at the hands of mentally puerile doctors for years. She made them thousands upon thousands of dollars of course and all she got was torment and horrible physical suffering.
Oh but let’s just let our brains fall out of our heads while we “race for the cure”! Trillions of dollars of donations and al they do is radiation/chemo/surgery.

chemtrailssuck
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Except for an emergency (and it’s gotta be a good one), I’d take the risk of a gun before trusting a doctor any day. At least you can dodge the bullets.

chemtrailssuck
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What makes me go bananas is when I read obituaries and see that people who have died of (name your disease here) despite the ‘medical care’ and then the obituary says to contribute money to some medical charity in their name. People need to wake up and realize that these trillions of dollars are mostly wasted “looking” for a cure. There has not been a single disease that has been “cured”, thanks to so called research in the allopathic medical arena. Sickness is BIG BUSINESS and people everywhere are constantly being sucked up into the giant propaganda vacuum cleaner that… Read more »

chemtrailssuck
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The AMA should be listening to the old chestnut, “Physician heal thyself”. If they’re so concerned about violence why don’t they rally against the sexual torture of defenseless male and female babies and speak out against genital mutilation?

chemtrailssuck
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I know many who have died because of doctors, but none because of guns.