Do soldiers forfeit their 1st Amendment right to free speech?

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Sgt. Gary Stein

On April 5, 2012, after a daylong hearing at Camp Pendleton, a Marine Corps administrative board recommended the other-than-honorable dismissal of Sgt. Gary Stein for openly criticizing his commander in chief Barack Obama on a Facebook page.
Meanwhile, yet another U.S. soldier, Air Force Technical Sgt. Joel Thomson, is doing what Sgt. Stein had done, criticizing Obama on his Facebook pageReportedly, Thomson calls Obama a Muslim and the son of Satan. I tried to access Thomson’s Facebook page, but got the message that “The page you requested was not found”.

Sgt. Joel Thomson

Stein and Thomson are not alone. In fact, according to a recent Marine Corps Times article, anti-Obama sentiments reportedly are rising in the U.S. Marine Corps.
Stein and Thomson are lending a face to the knotty problem of soldiers and their Constitutional rights. Do Americans forfeit their First Amendment right to free speech when they  enlist or are drafted into the U.S. military?
Brandon Smith has a thoughtful take on this matter. Smith maintains that soldiers should not be denied their right to free speech, and for government to deny them that right is to render soldiers into political slaves.
The essay below is excerpted from Smith’s longer piece for, “Understanding the Slave Mentality,” April 2, 2012.

I was recently looking into the divisive issue of U.S. Marine Sgt. Gary Stein, whose position has come under threat due to his criticisms of Barack Obama and his founding of the ‘Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook Page’.  What I discovered was a large number of Americans in support of Stein’s right to speak as a citizen (even under Marine regulations) against the unconstitutional actions of any president or presidential candidate.  I also discovered a considerable number who wanted to see the soldier dishonorably discharged, or even set upon a noose as punishment.

Now, we all know that the Department of Defense monitors web news and social networking activity, and they have been caught red handed in the past posing as regular citizens with strangely militant pro-authoritarian views (look into their organized propaganda attacks on websites dealing with the levee failures during Katrina, for instance).  It is by no means a stretch to suggest that they would also troll the comments sections of mainstream news articles in an attempt to engineer a fraudulent consensus that Sgt. Stein’s actions have been negatively received by the majority of Americans.  But that aside, the underlings at the DOD are still Americans, and the views they espouse are still expressions of a subsection of this country (a small elitist one).  Also, sadly, there are plenty of non-government-paid people out there who believe exactly as they do.

Surely, we can debate over the details of Marine regulations until our ears bleed, and I could point out several facts that the mainstream media did not cover in their hit pieces on Stein (like the fact that he went to his superiors and asked them to advise him in the handling of his political position long before the present charges against him were ever formulated, and the fact that he followed many of their suggestions…), but ultimately, the regulations of the Marines or the Federal Government are irrelevant.  Such laws are transitory, and are usually written so broadly that the authorities of the day can execute them however they wish to fit their needs at the moment.  The real question here is one of principle, moral compass, and Constitutionality (a document which is a reflection of eternal natural law).  We have to set aside the pointless legalese of defense standards in the case of Sgt. Stein and ask ourselves an important question; do U.S. troops have a right to free speech?

If you believe so, then their rights are not limited or exclusive.  They are free to say whatever any other American has a right to say.  If you believe they do not, then you have relegated the troops to the position of second class citizens, or even property of the state.  There is NO in-between.  Discipline and military coherence be damned.  Either these men and women have First Amendment protections and are full citizens or they are mechanisms of the government whose civil liberties have been erased.

Even though I understand the psychology behind it, I am still shaken with raw electrical astonishment when confronted by those who support the latter notion that American soldiers are indeed property of the state, that their actions must be dictated by the president and not the Constitution, and that this is required for the military to function.

Very few of these absurd multitudes ever ask what “function” such a military, populated by ethical robots who are blindly subservient to the dictates of a single man, would actually serve?

What good is an unprincipled military?  An unprincipled government?  An unprincipled society?  What reason is there for these constructs to exist?  The Nuremberg Trials solidified the reality that soldiers will be held accountable for following criminal orders, and still, there are some who claim that our troops must adopt a shoot first pay later methodology.

I bring up the circumstances of Sgt. Stein to illustrate the situation our nation is currently facing; we are on the threshold of total despotism, where the naysayers who shrugged off the threat of rogue government yesterday suddenly embrace it and support it today.  When Stewart Rhodes first formed the Oath Keepers organization, the same talking point was consistently used in an attempt to derail it; “The orders you would refuse to obey could never occur in this country…”  And yet, many of the warnings of Oath Keepers have come to pass, including the unlawful disarming of peaceful U.S. citizens during the disaster in New Orleans, the institution of government directed assassination programs of U.S. citizens under Bush and Obama, the passing of NDAA legislation which includes provisions for indefinite detainment of Americans without trial, warrantless wiretapping, surveillance, and even home invasion by authorities is becoming common, and the Obama Administration has put into place several executive orders (including the The National Defense Resources Preparedness EO) which pave the way for Martial Law to be declared.

[…] What I have seen in a number of the reactions to the honest activism of Sgt. Gary Stein is a knee-jerk bias that reeks of the slave mentality, but it offers us a window in gauging the leanings of the general public.  Now that the once theoretical dangers of federal fascism are breaking the surface of the water and circling the American sinking ship, the great test is to watch closely where the masses place their priorities.  Will they take the path of the individual, admit to the laboratory mutation that our government has become, and try to make things right again?  Or, will they take the path of the slave, forget their past follies and empty arguments, and jump on the totalitarian bandwagon?  Certainly, it is not as if the cheerleaders of the state usually get out of the tumult with all their limbs intact.  In most cases, they are lucky to get out alive once the smoke clears.  One might think that the lessons of history would be guide enough, but then again, the average slave has taken every conceivable measure to ensure that his particular fantasy land is magical enough to withstand substantial examination.  The system is their drug, and the upheaval that free thought brings is such a buzz-kill…

The cold hard reality is, the Oath Keepers were right, and Sgt. Stein is right.

Brandon Smith has offered 7 signs that you are a mental slave. That is the subject of another post, to come! Meanwhile, please take this FOTM poll:


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0 responses to “Do soldiers forfeit their 1st Amendment right to free speech?

  1. One day very soon, Gary Stein will look like a genius to those who, at the moment, disagree with him.

  2. I can tell you, as a retired military officer, that the vast majority of service members despised Clinton and now Obama. We vocalized this all the time, but now the social media is creating a brave new world. I believe the UCMJ rules regarding free speech and the CINC need to be changed.

  3. Hi Dr. Eowyn nice blog

  4. What a lot of people fail to realize is that WE the People are
    currently being tried not by a jury of our peers under Common Law,
    but by under Maritime Law by an Admiralty Court which is more like
    the UCMJ (where you are guilty until proven innocent) than by the
    by the precepts set forth in our Constitution…say what you will, the
    Libertarians understand this . Freedom given by the government ,
    can be taken by the government….

  5. May God bless Sgt. Stein for having the courage to stand up for what he believes in. May God Bless the United States Marine Corp.!

  6. voguy is Mike. Thanks.

  7. Of course it would have happened anyway (as in the last election,) but this incident of FREEDOM OF SPEECH will pretty much guarantee that most overseas absentee MILITARY ballots will be: “lost in transit,” “regrettably misplaced,” et al. I don’t know if it can still be done, but while I was in the Navy (during the Peanut Farmer’s reign and beyond,) my Mother filled out the forms for me for an absentee ballot which was sent to my home of record. She then mailed it to me via REGISTERED MAIL, and I returned it to the Board of Elections in the same manner. I urge all family members of our outstanding military to check into this option to ensure our military voices are heard loudly and clearly in the upcoming election. THEY serve with pride and humility. The IMPOSTER-IN-CHIEF serves with ARROGANCE, DECEPTION, and STOLEN VALOR. DON’T allow this ENEMY of this great nation four more years to carry out his plan of destruction.

    • He got exactly what he deserved, the UCMJ has rules that are meant to be followed when you sign on the dotted line and swear in you are basically saying I will die for my country and follow these rules and regulations in the UCMJ while I am in. So no people not poor Sgt whoever.He broke the rules. Heres a little test for you, go to your job tomorrow and break one of your employers rules regardless of what and see what happens to you. He probably had Marines under him that probably picked up some of his insubordinate traits and will eventually pass on to new Marines. That’s where ripple effect of problems occur. He can criticize the president why not my commanding officer and why not in combat, then people die. When you do not adhere to standards then you will be dealt with accordingly. If you don’t like it don’t come in or get the hell out. The Commander in Chief is in charge and regardless of how you feel about him or her you will do exactly what they tell you to do. Half of y’all on here are upset because it’s a black president. You hate when it’s brought up but that’s what it boils down to, since day one you couldn’t wait to get him out of office. Then you guys try to ease off it and try to throw us off by saying ohhh they playing the race card. 400 plus years documented in books, passed down through families and you think thats forgetable not to mention the heartache and pain and loses that went into getting rights is why it’s not “playing” the race card, it’s exactly what it looks like to us. I don’t understand how in the hell you expect someone to fix all of the American problems that has taken more than anyone can count in terms of years to be fixed in four years when he has no support because you blog about every decision made. Support your President and stop bashing em, one man is not going to fix years of fuck ups especially when everyone is against him. McCain and Palin stickers on your car as if they would have done a better job. How about some solutions to solve some problems cause every President we get screws something up. So Sgt Stein thank you for serving but your services are no longer required. As military members you give a little to save a lot. How do we expect members to display discipline and train others to do so if you are not? You break the rules and there are consequences. On the bright side now he has all the free time he needs to criticize. It’s common sense, if you are serving in the military, regardless of which branch, the President is at the top of your chain of command. Meaning he is your boss. UCMJ has rules, follow them. Now that he is a civilian I would love to see him test this freedom of speech on his new boss and see how long he holds his current job.

  8. Please allow me to make a correction to my previous comment/suggestion. Registered mail was used when I was stationed in the country. PRIORITY MAIL was used when I was overseas. My apologies for the error.

  9. Thinking about this, it seems that he had the right to say what he wanted, and it cost him his job. If you openly criticize your boss in most cases the result is negative, and sooner or later the atmosphere in the workplace makes it impossible for the critic to get promoted or even carry on. Even if an employee has a decent working relationship with his boss, they always have a weak spot and don’t like people who point it out, especailly if it is hitting the nail on the head. In this particular case, when the existence of the USA and it’s citizens are at stake because of the dismal leadership of the military amongst other things, it might be possible to approach the Captain of the platoon or group and find out what official channels there are, if any, where complaints can be made and see if that would get a better result.
    With unions, going on strike is the way that disputes are sometimes settled, but the army isn’t unionized quite yet, although I did hear something about that somewhere…….Anyway, since so many guys fighting for the US are mercenaries, they don’t care one way or the other about what kind of man is in charge, they are
    in it for the money. They’ll fight for the highest bidder.
    The way out is to have Obama to resign or leave the WH under any means possible ASAP……………….things are getting crazy out there, and we certainly need a patriotic congressman or woman to step up to the plate and get this ball rolling.
    In the meantime, Happy Easter everybody………….
    Celebrate Jesus, celebrate. He is risen and he lives forevermore, Celebrate Jesus, celebrate…………

  10. I’m of two minds of this. On one hand, in the Navy I *personally* never would’ve thought to publicly criticize any commanding officer (which is a UCMJ violation anyway), and I thought of the president as a commanding officer in his role of commander-in-chief (even though the president at the time was Clinton). On the other hand, in general I believe soldiers should have a First Amendment right to criticize the president.
    On the third hand 🙂 , I haven’t seen Stein’s page, but it was my understanding that he only said he wouldn’t follow illegal orders, which soldiers are obligated to not follow ever since the Nuremberg Trials anyway.

  11. Richard Greene

    Soldiers waive their civil rights when they give up being civilians. If POTUS treats them like brainless fodder, it might be because they were foolish enough to sign away their civil rights. Contractually speaking, they are Gov’t property. They have no more civil rights than a Jeep has … possibly even less in the present regime.


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