Court rules Pennsylvania man’s “gun-like” hand gesture toward a neighbor is a crime

So now the courts can determine if anyone’s gesture is “legitimate?”

Slippery slope…

From MyFoxChicago: A Pennsylvania court ruled Tuesday that making a “gunlike hand gesture” is a crime after a man made the hand motion during an argument with his neighbor — an act which reportedly made several nearby residents nervous and prompted a call to police.

Stephen Kirchner, 64, made the gesture toward his neighbor in Manor Township in June 2018, according to surveillance video. Kirchner, walking alongside a female neighbor, “stopped, made eye contact with [the male neighbor] and then made a hand gesture at him imitating the firing and recoiling of a gun,” according to court documents.

The action made one neighbor feel “extremely threatened” and he called 911. Another neighbor said she saw Kirchner “put his finger up like he was going to shoot [the neighbor]”, “insecure,” prompting her to call 911.

Kirchner and the female neighbor Kirchner had been walking with previously had issues and confrontations, sparking the neighbor to install six security cameras on his property. At the time of the incident in 2018, the female neighbor had a “no contact” order against the neighbor who felt threatened, court documents indicate.

Kirchner was issued a citation for disorderly conduct following the incident. He said in district court he made the “gunlike” gesture after his neighbor gave him “the finger with both hands.”

The 64-year-old was found guilty, but appealed, arguing the hand gesture didn’t “create a hazardous or physically offensive condition.” Kirchner said he didn’t mean to cause public alarm, and there wasn’t really any harm done to the neighbor or others.

On Tuesday, however, the Superior Court of Pennsylvania found the gesture “served no legitimate purpose, and recklessly risked provoking a dangerous altercation.”

Kirchner was ordered to pay a $100 fine and court costs.

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William
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William

Slippery slope? No, we’re at the bottom, the nadir, if a man can be cited for making a hand gesture that the court determines “serves no legitimate purpose”. By inference the double F you by the neighbor did serve a legitimate purpose since she wasn’t cited. This is nuts. As for the other neighbor who felt “extremely threatened” and called 911, he needs therapy and I have availability. I would simply tell him that real men don’t feel extremely threatened by harmless hand gestures, so be a man, not a whiny-ass little bitch

Grace
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Grace

👍🏻

Jackie Puppet
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So, giving someone both middle fingers isn’t provoking, either?

Kevin Lankford
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Kevin Lankford

Perhaps we should now be able to consider it an actual invitation; may be even a defense against rape.

cogitoergosumantra
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cogitoergosumantra

What horseshit. Arrest the neighbor who flipped him off with both hands. Probably intimating his sodomic intent…

YouKnowWho
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YouKnowWho

I’m gonna shoot you with a pop tart.

William
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William

When the Framers wrote the 2nd Amendment I don’t think they had pop tarts in mind. But maybe they did, what do I know?:)

ChuckC
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Background checks for all hands should be mandatory. 10 day waiting period to use a hand. Better yet, confiscate all hands now.

Hard to take this sort of BS as seriously as it needs to be taken. The slide into tyranny began with laws that no longer objective but were subjective. legislation regarding one’s feelings is the beginning of true oppression 1984 style.

Dr. Eowyn
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Then Obama should aksi be arrested for making a gun hand-gesture:

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Obama-makes-gun-hand-gesture.jpg

William
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William

Obama should be arrested for a lot of reasons

Michael Garrison
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Michael Garrison

So a judge who sacrifices children to Satan says that making a gun gesture with your fingers is illegal.

duckandcover
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duckandcover

Say what? That’s a protected expression of free speech protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Period. End of discussion.

Dave
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LOL – But was his finger loaded?

We are watching our beloved America disintegrate right before our eyes.

I give this country five more years.

– Maybe.

Watertender
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Watertender

So if I drink milk and am lactose intolerant does that make my farts chemical weapons?

William
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William

Chemical weapons? Technically no since the courts have ruled that farting, a natural bodily function, “serves a legitimate purpose”. But “science” says that farting causes hurricanes to be more intense and glaciers to melt in Greenland. So if you drink milk and then fart you’ll have to carry that on your conscience. Just sayin’ 🙂

William
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William

Moreover, 70 percent of the human race is lactose intolerant, and half of the human race are men. And as we know, men fart, women talk. So there is the primary cause of the Climate Crisis. It’s those damn men and their farts

Watertender
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Watertender

Benjamin Franklin said “Fart Proudly” and wrote an essay about it. He was a hell of a lot smarter than me so I will heed his words and blast away in the knowledge that I am following tradition!!

DDrake
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DDrake

Lay it at the feet of ALL DEMOCRATS. The INSANE and Dangerous Whack-Jobs, one-and-all.

CCColeman
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CCColeman

Remove this Judge from the bench and disbar immediately.

TrailDust
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!!!!!!!