Congratulations, We Have Been Set Up For A Royal Screwing.

Off With Their Heads

  • Umm, This is a Berry Berry bad idea..  Steve

Imagine you live in a Red State. Tennessee is a good example. We can call Tennessee a “dead red cat state.” The voters of Tennessee would vote for a dead red cat before they would vote for Obama. Yet, all of Tennessee’s votes could go to Barack Obama.
Voter fraud? No something much worse.
The worse is a proposal gathering steam, sponsored by some Republicans called the National Popular Vote. The National Popular Vote is a stealth way to repeal the Electoral College that our founding fathers gave us.
As most people probably know, every four years in November, we go to the polls but we do not vote for President. Instead we vote for the electors that go to the meeting of the Electoral College and that is the official vote for President. Since the electors are committed to a particular candidate, the end result is never a surprise.
Under the NPV, the states sign an agreement that says whichever candidate gets the most votes nationally, gets the electoral votes from that state. For example, you could live in Tennessee, where 60% of the population is going to vote for a Republican. Even Mitt Romney could carry 60% in Tennessee. Yet if Barack Obama has more votes nationally, all of Tennessee’s 11 electoral votes would go to Barack Obama.
Under the NPV a candidate does not even have to take a majority of the popular vote, only be the largest vote getter.
When the founding fathers established the Electoral College, they set up a brilliant system. The Electoral College requires that candidates have a broad appeal. Candidates cannot simply restrict their campaign to a few densely populated areas and ignore the rest of the country. Even small states play a crucial role in the elections when we have the Electoral College. Many of those who push the NPV point to the 2000 election, which is one of three times in our country’s history where a candidate won more popular votes but lost the Electoral College. Had Al Gore paid attention to his alleged home state of Tennessee, he would have become the 43rd President. Had he won Tennessee, Florida’s votes would not have mattered.
When you eliminate the Electoral College you basically wipe out the state lines. This is nothing less than an assault on federalism. Eliminating the Electoral College changes the American states from state to more like administrative departments of the national government.
Technically, this is not abolishing the Electoral College. It is simply gaming the results.
Currently, the NPV has passed in eight states.
When you are undecided about an idea, you can often gauge its merit by looking who supports it. The National Popular Vote is endorsed by a multitude of liberal newspapers. If liberals think something is a good idea, it probably is not. The Advisory Board consists of liberal Democrats and moderate Republicans. There is not a single conservative on that list.
The National Popular vote is tailor made for a billionaire to run a campaign in a few large metropolitan areas, collecting a plurality of the vote and is suddenly President. This is not a popular vote as it could allow a candidate with support in only two or three small but densely populated areas to run and win. They can pander to New York corridor, Los Angeles/San Francisco area and Chicago, pretty much ignore rest of the country. The left likes to call the heartland of America, “fly over country.” If the National Popular Vote becomes law, fly over country will not just be that. It will be irrelevant to the politics of choosing an American President. Most of the Red States of America will not be part of a Republic. We will simply be ruled.
~Steve~        Formally from The USA.
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Judy
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I hadn’t realized this idiocy had already passed in eight states! How ignorant can some people be? Clearly pretty ignorant. I want my Republic back! Sadly, in their effort to make everything “fair,” they are ensuring that nothing will be fair, and dooming themselves and everyone else to physical and moral poverty the likes of which they obviously are incapable of imagining. God help us, but He truly is the only Hope.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

NPV sounds like elections in the Soviet Union or under Saddam… golly, the winner gets 100% of the vote, all the states voted that way so he must’ve.

Dr. Eowyn
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I’m so glad you posted this, Steve.
Sage_brush sent us a news tip on this yesterday and I was getting ready to do a post on it.

Dr. Eowyn
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Ain’t that the truth.
Remember how glum we had felt back in 2008 or 2009 or 2010, and how each time we’d pick ourselves back up, to return to the battle and Keep On Truckin’ Bloggin’ ?
Things can always get worse, and things have been getting worser and worser (I know, it’s ungrammatical). I wonder when we’ll hit bottom? 🙁

Zorro
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Zorro

Chaz Bono is more of a man than Obama 🙂

Horace
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Horace

Our Founding Fathers put checks and balances on everything, even the people, therefore we have the Electoral College. It’s frightening to imagine NPV in the US. In my opinion, the next to go is the Amendment limiting the president to two terms. There is already talk about extending the term of president to six years. Scary!

In Russet Shadows
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Of course this is undiluted idiocy. The question is, what can we do/are doing about it? The eight states that have passed it are: Washington, Vermont, Hawaii, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Illinois. The site is actually in error – the District of Columbia is not a state, but DC has passed it as well. So I guess the call to arms is: if you live in one of those states, it’s time to get busy. Oh, something else gleaned from the site — Fred Thompson endorses this. I will never vote for or support this man again. Lastly — one… Read more »

Dr. Eowyn
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Thanks, IRS, about the wrong link to NPV. I just fixed it. 🙂

Zorro
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Zorro

How did Fred Thompson become a Bilderberger?

Christine Hall
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You get a thumbs up for making a real groaner of a pun, my momma was good at those, otherwise it would “OHHHHH noooo AARRGGHH!” thumbs down! LOL!! That was really TOO choice. I’m a glutton for PUNishment. LOL!

oldgulph
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oldgulph

Under National Popular Vote, when every vote counts equally, successful candidates will continue to find a middle ground of policies appealing to the wide mainstream of America. Instead of playing mostly to local concerns in Ohio and Florida, candidates finally would have to form broader platforms for broad national support. It would no longer matter who won a state. Now political clout comes from being a battleground state. Now with state-by-state winner-take-all laws presidential elections ignore 12 of the 13 lowest population states (3-4 electoral votes), that are almost invariably non-competitive, and ignored, in presidential elections. Six regularly vote Republican… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Look how well it worked under Saddam. He’s always got re-elected with 99% of the vote. Demo-rats would love that… they already love everyone so much they know how they’re going to vote already (even the dead voters in the cemetary).

oldgulph
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oldgulph

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state’s electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). The recent Washington Post, Kaiser Family Foundation, and Harvard University poll shows 72% support for direct nationwide election of the President. Support is strong among Republican voters, Democratic voters, and independent voters, as well as every demographic group surveyed in virtually every state surveyed in recent polls in closely divided battleground states: Colorado– 68%, Florida… Read more »

oldgulph
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oldgulph

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a constitutional amendment in 1969 for a national popular vote by a 338–70 margin. It was endorsed by Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, George H.W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, and contemporary vice-presidential candidates such as Bob Dole and Walter Mondale. Jason Cabel Roe, a lifelong conservative activist and professional political consultant wrote in National Popular Vote is Good for Republicans: “I strongly support National Popular Vote. It is good for Republicans, it is good for conservatives, it is good for California, and it is good for America. National Popular Vote is not a grand conspiracy hatched… Read more »

oldgulph
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oldgulph

By state (electoral college votes), by political affiliation, support for a national popular vote in recent polls has been: Alaska (3) — 66% among (Republicans), 70% among Nonpartisan voters, 82% among Alaska Independent Party voters Arkansas (6) — 71% (R), 79% (Independents). California (55)– 61% (R), 74% (I) Colorado (9) — 56% (R), 70% (I). Connecticut (7) — 67% (R) Delaware (3) — 69% (R), 76% (I) DC (3) — 48% (R), 74% of (I) Idaho(4) – 75% (R) Florida (29) — 68% (R) Iowa (6) — 63% (R) Kentucky (8) — 71% (R), 70% (I) Maine (4) – 70%… Read more »

Dr. Eowyn
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ENOUGH with your multiple posts !!!
This blog is not a forum for your NPV propaganda.
I see you’re a Californian. No wonder you favor NPV.

DCG
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DCG

NPV good for America? ha….how much is moveon.org paying you to post this BS?