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Slippery Slope: 17% of Americans think polygamy is okay

We warned you about the slippery slope, after the Supreme Court legalized homosexual marriage in 2015.

Polygamy — having multiple spouses at one time, which President James Garfield once said “offends the moral sense” — was one of the most morally taboo social behaviors in the eyes of Americans.

But a new Gallup poll — the Values and Beliefs poll conducted on May 3-7, 2017 — found that the percentage of U.S. adults who find polygamy morally acceptable has accelerated in recent years.

Gallup began measuring Americans’ moral perceptions of polygamy in 2003. For the first seven years (2003-2010), the rate of U.S. adults who said polygamy was “morally acceptable” was always in the single digits. But beginning in 2010 — the second year of Obama’s first term as POTUS — that percentage began to rise, from 11% in 2011, to 14% in 2016, and to 17% in the latest poll, which is nearly 1 in 5 American adults.

Not surprisingly, religion is a factor in Americans’ attitude toward polygamy:

  • Between 2011 and 2017, 32% of atheists and non-religious (those who do not identify with any religion) said polygamy was “morally acceptable.” This follows the general tendency for those who are less religious to be more liberal on social issues.
  • In contrast, Christians and even Mormons are less likely than the overall sample average to find polygamy morally tolerable:
    • 12% of Mormons
    • 10% of Catholics
    • 9% of Protestants/other Christians
  • Oddly, the Gallup poll makes no mention of another religious group — Jews.

And what accounts for Americans’ increasing acceptance of polygamy? Gallup’s Andrew Dugan attributes it to at least two factors:

  • Television: “Beginning in the mid-2000s, television shows began to feature polygamist characters — though these depictions were not always favorable. The TLC show ‘Sister Wives’ premiered in 2010, and according to The Washington Post, humanized a family of polygamists. The show was successful and remains on the air. Notably, over the time it has been on the air, Gallup has seen support for polygamy rise by nearly 10 percentage points, although it is impossible to establish any direct causality between the show and changing attitudes.”
  • Overall increase in “social liberalism”: “Many of the moral norms that have changed the most in the U.S. over the last few decades are related to sex and marriage — including gay/lesbian relations, divorce and having a baby out of wedlock.” There is still a last bastion that social liberalism hasn’t yet completely penetrated — adultery. Having an extramarital affair remains nearly as morally toxic this year as it was in 2001, with about one in 10 Americans finding it morally acceptable (10% in 2017 and 7% in 2001).

It is downright frightening how malleable the U.S. and any culture is, and how swift the moral erosion.

Already there is a push to “normalize” pedophilia. See:

What’s next on the slippery slope?

Incest? See:

Bestiality? See:

~Eowyn

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Colombia gets first ‘polyamorous family’ as three men legally established as unit

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Polygamy is now a “validation” of a household

As Dr. Eowyn has noted before, there is a slippery slope of legalizing homosexual same-sex marriage. Once that barn door was opened, there is now agitation to legalize and normalize polygamy, bestiality, pedophilia and pederasty. See the stories here, here, and here.

Now another country has accepted polygamy because after all, #loveislove, or something like that.

From The Telegraph: Three gay men say they have gained legal recognition as the first “polyamorous family” in Colombia, where same-sex marriages were legalised last year.

“We wanted to validate our household… and our rights, because we had no solid legal basis establishing us as a family,” said one of the men, actor Victor Hugo Prada, in a video published by Colombian media on Monday.

He said he and his two partners, sports instructor John Alejandro Rodriguez and journalist Manuel Jose Bermudez, signed legal papers with a solicitor in the city of Medellin, establishing them as a family unit with inheritance rights.

This establishes us as a family, a polyamorous family. It is the first time in Colombia that has been done.”

Lawyer and gay rights activist German Rincon Perfetti said there are many three-person unions in Colombia but this was the first one to be legally recognised. “It is a recognition that other types of family exist,” he told AFP.

A ruling by the constitutional court in April 2016 made Colombia the fourth South American country to definitively legalise same-sex marriage, after Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay.

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‘The luckiest man alive’ insists raising a child in a ‘throuple’ is the future of parenting

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Dad, mum and mum and their kids

Because parenting and relationships should be all about logistics that make your life easier so you have time to socialize!

From Daily Mail: When a family announces that it is expecting, it is usually two parents that excitedly break the news. However, for Adam Lyons and his two girlfriends, it’s three parents who are getting increasingly excited about their forthcoming bundle of joy.

Two years ago, Adam Lyons, 36, who is from East London, but now lives in Austin, Texas, was dubbed ‘the luckiest man alive’ because of his unusual living arrangements with his two girlfriends Brooke Shedd and Jane Shalakhova.

At the time, Adam and Brooke had son, Dante, two, together but now the ‘throuple’ are expecting again after Jane fell pregnant. 

The threesome – who share a super-kingsize bed – believe the new baby, due in July, will make their family even more complete. Adam, 36, says: ‘It’s so sweet that we all get to parent and raise the kids together. We have talked about it at length and we all consider ourselves parents to the children. ‘

With the kids, our titles are officially “Dad”, “Mum” and “Mum”. For us, three definitely works better than two.’

In fact the threesome believe their unusual arrangement could be the future of relationships and parenting.

Adam, who runs his own business consulting company Psychology Hacker, says: ‘For us, three people works because it enables us to manage daily life so much better.  So many of our friends are in “normal” two-person couple relationships with kids, jobs and all the other typical responsibilities and I see them struggling to juggle their lives. It’s difficult with two people.  But with three parents, we always have the ability for one person to look after the kids.’

‘As a result, we never begrudge each other anything because we all have lots of time. With three people, it’s logistically so much easier to handle all those things – we share out the responsibilities and it fits our sexual preferences too.’

‘When Brooke, Jane and I first came out about our relationship, we had some criticism and certain people said we wouldn’t last.

But we’ve been going for five years now. What we have is not a fling or a phase, we’re a real family with healthy, happy kids. Our son Oliver doesn’t even recognise what is ‘unusual’ about our family.’

‘This should be the future of relationships, where people are able to enjoy love in any way they feel works. Three people and three parents makes so much sense to us.’

Indeed pregnant mother, Jane, 27, says that she never wanted children until she realised how much easier it was with three parents. Jane, who also works with Adam in his business consulting company, explains: ‘When I had boyfriends before, I never wanted or cared about kids. Growing up, I always thought that when you had a baby, you became a slave to your child. You see a lot of parents struggling. But raising Dante with Adam and Brooke and watching him grow up with three parents around – I realise we could do it as a family. With three parents around, it’s so doable.’

With three parents, we can still have a social life, make time for one another and share the parenting tasks so you don’t end up like the typical sleep-deprived mum! With two partners, there’s so much help and I’ll never have to leave my kids with someone I don’t trust.’

Bisexual Brooke, 28, – who also has son, Oliver, 7 from a previous relationship – says: ‘I’m so excited for Jane’s pregnancy – I love talking to her bump. I’ve always wanted four sons so this is a dream come true. ‘I think our good parenting is one of the sexiest things about our relationship. It’s incredible to see them Adam and Jane with the kids and how we share all the responsibilities.’

‘We definitely want a few more kids and I would love to have a wedding to show my commitment to Adam and Jane. Oliver says he would like to get married someday too and he knows three people can be really happy together in a relationship. We’re setting a good example.

Adam, Jane and Brooke all live together on a large plot of land with two separate houses – one of which they use as an office and one of which Brooke uses as a home school where she plans to teach all the trio’s children.

Bisexual Jane says: ‘We love living and working together – the family house is a one-minute walk from our office. Adam and I can have meetings in the office and head back home for lunch with Brooke and the kids. It allows us to spend more time together. I love coming home and getting a kiss from Brooke, Dante and Oliver!

‘My pregnancy was a planned one. We were trying for a baby – it just felt like the right time and parenting together as a threesome is a lot of fun.’

Read the rest of the story here.

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Polygamous family from TV’s ‘Sister Wives’ take their fight to legalize ‘multiple marriages’ to Supreme Court

I will not be surprised if this eventually becomes another legal right in the US. After all, #loveislove.

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From the Daily Mail: The polygamous family from TV’s ‘Sister Wives’ will take their fight to legalize polygamy to the U.S. Supreme Court, their lawyer said on Friday.

Kody Brown and his four wives say that polygamous marriages can be just as healthy as monogamous unions, and they argue a Utah law that makes plural marriages a felony violates their right to freedom of speech and religion.

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Attorney Jonathan Turley decried an appeals court decision that threw out the Browns’ challenge to the law. The judges decided the Browns can’t sue because they weren’t charged under the law, so they didn’t consider the constitutional issues.

Turley said an investigation by local authorities after the Brown’s reality TV show ‘Sister Wives’ premiered nevertheless amounted to government abuse. Though the investigation was closed without filing charges, the Brown say they had to flee the state and the threat of prosecution still hangs over their heads.

A federal judge sided with them and overturned key parts of the state’s bigamy law in 2013, but an appeals court overturned that decision in April. The appeals court refused the Browns’ request to reconsider the case in an opinion handed down Friday.

Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes (a republican) has pledged to leave polygamists alone unless they break other laws.  But he argues the state still needs the ban to go after polygamists like Warren Jeffs, who serving a life prison sentence for sexually assaulting girls he considered wives.

A spokesman for the Reyes declined to comment on the ‘Sister Wives’ appeal. The family’s lawyer didn’t immediately say when the appeal might be filed.

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Why more women are letting their husbands cheat

Count me out of this “fascinating trend.”

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Via NY Post: Thrashing out the details of their new marriage contract with online relationship coach Suzie Johnson, the wealthy couple who have been wed for 12 years leave their hourlong Skype session feeling satisfied. The husband agrees they can have a fifth child — while the wife consents to an infidelity clause allowing him to cheat with other women on a strictly annual basis.

“They agreed to a weekend amnesty, where the guy can do what he wants for just one weekend a year,” recalls Johnson, who runs the Dallas, Texas-based goasksuzie.com. “In return, she gets the bigger family she craved.”

It’s increasingly common in her practice as a growing number of women agree to “widen their monogamy boundaries” and embrace a marriage of convenience, where it’s just the husband who strays rather than an open marriage where both sides cheat.

It’s a fascinating trend that came into the spotlight this week with the death of 75-year-old Linda Jones, superstar Welsh singer Tom Jones’ long-suffering wife, who put up with his legendary philandering for 59 years.

Masha Lopatova and her husband Andrei Kirilenko

Masha Lopatova and her husband Andrei Kirilenko

Well-known public figures in similar situations include, most famously, presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, as well as Masha Lopatova, spouse of former NBA player Andrei Kirilenko. The mother of four admitted in 2006 that she sets the 6-foot-9 Russian-born athlete “free” once a year so he can sow his wild oats.

Citing 2013 study research that shows more than 50 percent of marriages survive infidelity, Johnson explains: “Fifteen years ago, having an affair would be a deal-breaker, but people now realize that it’s not the end of the world. It’s tough in the initial stages, but many see it as an opportunity to make a fresh deal. The more invested you are in your marriage — whether because of love, lifestyle, finances, children or a combination of those things — the more likely you are to make compromises [such as allowing the husband to cheat] to anchor the commitment.”

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Rather than taking the open-marriage route popular in Europe, in America, it’s usually a case of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” where the wife turns a blind eye to the man’s peccadilloes. Another option, as psychotherapist Joe Kort asserts, is the “eyes wide open” approach that involves a written contract full of rules.

“For example, the woman might agree that the man can attend BDSM play parties once a month or have oral sex — not penetrative sex — once a week, so long as he has blood tests every three months,” says Kort, of Detroit, who often advises clients in mixed-orientation marriage — with one straight spouse and one who’s gay.

Pittsburgh-based former HR executive Sophie, 61, who asked that her last name be withheld to protect her privacy, fits into that category. When her physician husband admitted to a same-sex fling during a business trip in 2006, she remained by his side. “He said it was a mistake, and he was confused by his sexuality,” Sophie tells The Post.

Then, two years ago, he dropped the bombshell that he now considered himself gay and was actively seeking other partners. “When it first happened, I thought I was going to lose my mind,” admits Sophie, who last had sex with her husband in the fall. “But, with help from Joe [Kort], we’ve figured out our arrangement.”

The couple, who have no kids, recently bought an apartment in New York City to serve as the husband’s love nest. Other times, Sophie visits the condo when she wants to catch a Broadway show.

So what made her decide to stand by her man? “We’re still very much in love and we have a rich history together,” says Sophie, who has been married for 33 years. “My parents are elderly, and I don’t see any point in telling them and hurting them by getting divorced.”

Other factors include the duo’s comfortable lifestyle in the Pennsylvania countryside and their devotion to their two dogs. But it’s been a difficult road, especially after Sophie confided in her sister and a rigidly Christian friend. “They are very judgmental and think there is only room for two people in a marriage,” she says. “But, as Joe counsels me, you get to write your own story, and nobody can tell us how to live our lives.”

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More than half of Muslims want gay sex to be outlawed and nearly a quarter support areas of UK being run under sharia law

Let’s see the proggies try and defend this.

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From The Daily Mail: British Muslims disagree with the rest of the country on a range of key issues such as sexuality, freedom of speech and polygamy, according to new research. A poll carried out by ICM discovered that more than half of Muslims disagree with homosexuality being legal in Britain, while a quarter support Sharia law being introduced into parts of the country instead of British law.

The full findings will feature in a Channel 4 documentary presented by Trevor Phillips, former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, on Wednesday. Entitled What British Muslims Really Think, the programme will investigate the ‘split’ between Britons who follow Islam and the rest of the population.

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Among the most startling findings by the research was the attitude of Muslim men and women to the treatment of wives. A third of those polled said it was acceptable for a British Muslim to keep more than one wife, while 39 per cent said wives should always obey their husbands. Nearly half of those questioned said it was unacceptable for a gay or lesbian person to teach their child, with the majority also opposing gay marriage.

Former equal rights chief Phillips, who speaks to several members of the Muslim community on their views during the documentary, states that ‘the integration of Muslims will probably be the hardest task’ the country has ever faced.

He told The Sunday Times Magazine: ‘I thought Europe’s Muslims would gradually blend into the landscape. I should have known better. Britain desperately wants us to think of its Muslims as versions of the Great British Bake Off winner Nadiya Hussain, or the cheeky-chappy athlete Mo Farah. ‘But thanks to the most detailed and comprehensive survey of British Muslim opinion yet conducted, we know that just isn’t how it is.’

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More than 80 per cent of Muslims surveyed said they felt British and were happy living here, yet conceded they were more likely to stay within their own communities, especially when it came to relationships. The ICM figures reported that more than half mix with non-Muslims each day, normally through work or education, but one in five never enter a non-Muslim household.

Phillips, who was head of the equal rights commission from 2006 and 2012, published a report on Islamophobia twenty years ago, in which he underestimated the number of Muslims that would be living in the UK.

Nearly three million Muslims currently call Britain home, half of which were born abroad, while it is projected that at least six million will live in Britain by 2050.  As part of its research, ICM carried out interviews with 1,801 adults compiled from a random sample who categorised themselves as being Muslim.

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UK commits suicide: Muslims with multiple wives to get extra welfare benefits

Polygamy is illegal in the United Kingdom under Section 57 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861.

But the UK recognizes polygamy if the marriages were in countries where they are legal, i.e., Islamic countries. That means the UK recognizes the polygamous marriages of Muslim immigrants.

And so in 2008, the Blair government gave the go-ahead for husbands with multiple wives to claim extra welfare benefits, so long as the weddings had taken place in countries where polygamy is legal.

As if that isn’t bad enough, a new UK welfare reform will further reward polygamous Muslims with even more welfare benefits.

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The reform is called Universal Credit, a well-intended effort to reform the UK’s broken welfare system where:

  • More than one in four working-age adults in the UK does not work.
  • Some 2.6 million people spent at least 5 years on some form of out-of-work benefit.
  • A fifth of families with children are in poverty at any one time.

Under the new welfare system, additional spouses of polygamous relationships will no longer be recognized. Alas, that new policy has an unintended consequence of actually giving polygamous Muslims even more welfare benefits because those additional wives now can claim welfare as single persons.

Simon Kent reports for Breitbart, Jan. 24, 2016, that at present, a polygamous husband and his first wife receive up to £114.85 in “income support,” while each additional wife receives a reduced allowance of about £40 each. But under the new Universal Credit welfare system, by not recognizing polygamous marriages, a man’s additional wives will each receive welfare as a single person — which is higher than what they now get in reduced allowance.

Meanwhile, as Breitbart London reported, last year Britain’s first female sharia law judge stated that the “government cannot ask Muslims not to have more than one wife”.

At the same time, as reported by the Times newspaper, Britain is experiencing a “surge” in Sharia marriages, as young British Muslims adopt a more hardline religious stance than their parents:

“As many as 100,000 couples are living in such [sharia] marriages, which are not valid under UK law, experts said…. A leading Islamic family lawyer warned that the increase in Sharia ceremonies among the 2.7 million-strong Muslim population in Britain was also behind a growth in ‘secret polygamy’.”

Attorney Aina Khan, an expert in Islamic family law, said that “Probably a quarter of all couples I see involve polygamy issues. There has been a huge rise in recent years because people can have a secret nikah [Islamic marriage] and no one will know about it.”

It has been claimed that Muslim men in Britain are having up to 20 children each because of polygamy and the rise of “religiously-sanctioned gender discrimination” under Sharia Law. Under Universal Credit, there will be more welfare benefits for those children, in addition to existing welfare called Child Benefit:

The Government is committed to providing the financial support less-well-off families need to cover children’s living costs. We will therefore include fixed amounts within Universal Credit to provide for these costs. The amounts will be based on those currently provided through Child Tax Credit. They will be additional to Child Benefit.

What all of this points to are the following truths:

  1. Immigrants to a country that provides generous welfare benefits will take advantage of the generosity.
  2. Countries with welfare attract immigrants from poor countries.
  3. Immigration (legal or illegal) therefore is incompatible with welfare. A country that offers both is courting financial ruin.

That is why Europe is flooded by Muslim “refugees” and “migrants”. A human tidal wave of 400,000 new migrants will arrive in Italy in coming weeks.

That is also why the United States is invaded by illegal migrants from Mexico and, the latest, from Cuba. At least 7,000 Cuban “refugees” are expected at Texas’ Hildago International Bridge in the next coming days.

~Eowyn