BLM vs. Bundy: Bundy spews, while Reid calls militia “domestic terrorists”

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Bundy militia vs BLMNearly two weeks after a tense standoff between armed BLM agents and a 1,000-strong coalition (of armed militia-men, cowboys on horseback, states’ rights advocates and gun rights activists) over the BLM’s roundup of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle from federal rangeland, armed militia campers are still guarding Bundy’s ranch near the town of Bunkerville, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

67-year-old Bundy says he doesn’t recognize federal authority on the land his family settled and has used since the late 1870s, when Bunkerville was founded. His dispute with the BLM dates to 1993, when the government designated the  Gold Butte area as protected habitat for the endangered desert tortoise and cut Bundy’s allotment of cows. Bundy quit paying grazing fees (the current fee is $1.35 per cow per month). The BLM canceled his grazing permit and ordered him to remove his cattle. Federal judges upheld the agency action.

(See “Bundy’s beef with BLM is about Federal vs. State ownership of land in Nevada” and “Leaders of 9 western states meet to take land back from federal govt”.)

In what Bundy advocates call the Battle of Bunkerville on April 12, 2014, the federal government eventually backed off, citing safety concerns. BLM agents were faced with military-style AR-15 and AK-47 weapons trained on them from a picket line of citizen soldiers on an Interstate 15 overpass, with dozens of women and children in the possible crossfire. BLM police released the confiscated 380 cattle, gave up the weeklong roundup, and lifted the closure of Bundy’s vast range half the size of the state of Delaware. The agency said it would resolve the matter “administratively and judicially.”

An armed man stands watch as protesters gather by the Bureau of Land Management's base camp near Bunkerville, NevadaOn April 12, 2014, Eric Parker from central Idaho stood watch on a bridge with his weapon as protesters gather by the BLM’s base camp, where cattle seized from rancher Cliven Bundy were being held, near Bunkerville.

Left unresolved is the federal government’s claim that Bundy owes more than $1.1 million in fees and penalties for letting some 900 cows “trespass” for 20 years on federal rangeland.

According to his son Ammon, Cliven Bundy has since received several certified letters from the BLM, but hasn’t opened them. BLM spokesman Mitch Snow said the letters offer Bundy a chance to keep his cattle if he pays the $1.1 million in trespass fees, plus “reasonable expenses of the impoundment.” Agency officials have said the contract for the roundup was $900,000.

Jonathan Allen writes for Reuters, April 17, 2014, that the federal government’s decision to withdraw in the face of armed resistance has alarmed some who worry that it has set a dangerous precedent and emboldened militia groups.

Ryan Lenz, a writer for the Southern Poverty Law Center that is concerned only with “right wing” terrorism and racism but not the terrorism/racism of the left or of Muslims, fumes, “Do laws no longer apply when the radical right no longer agrees?”

Militia experts say that armed Americans using the threat of a gunfight to force federal officers to back down is virtually unparalleled in the modern era.

Alex Jones, whose Infowars website had helped popularize Bundy’s dispute, called it a watershed moment: “Americans showed up with guns and said, ‘No, you’re not,’ before confronting the armed BLM agents. And they said, ‘Shoot us.’ And they did not. That’s epic. And it’s going to happen more.”

The 5,000-strong Oklahoma Milita has pledged their support to Bundy and vows to take up arms against the BLM if needed.

Energized by their success, Bundy’s supporters are already talking about where else they can exercise armed defiance. They are searching for other Bundys, such as Tommy Henderson, a rancher on the Texas-Oklahoma border who is fighting BLM attempts to seize some of his land.

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As for Bundya Mormon, father of 14, and a registered Republican — he’s not just energized but displays every sign of hubris.

He’d taken to the stage fashioned from a flatbed trailer to tell reporters he wants sheriffs around the country to seize weapons from federal bureaucrats. Bundy’s given interviews and daily press conferences on matters ranging far from his dispute with the BLM, including one on April 19 in which he called black Americans “negroes” and wondered aloud whether blacks on welfare would be “better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Bundy’s rants already have alienated whatever supporters he had in Congress:

  • Nevada’s Republican senator Dean Heller had spoken out in defense of Bundy and called for a Congressional hearing on the BLM’s roundup. But now, his spokesman Chandler Smith said that the senator “completely disagrees with Mr. Bundy’s appalling and racist statements, and condemns them in the most strenuous way.”
  • Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul released a statement today, saying Bundy’s “remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him.”
  • Nevada state Assemblywoman Michele Fiore said, “I strongly disagree with Cliven Bundy’s comments about slavery.”

The BLM’s backing down is only a temporary tactical maneuver. As Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics puts it, “The likelihood of the Feds ever backing down is highly unlikely, The Federal Government is severely disconnected from the people and views anyone who stands up to them as a criminal and domestic terrorist.”

harry-reidIndeed, two days ago on April 22 on KSNV-TV, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) already called the militiamen who have converged in Bunkerville “domestic violent terrorist-wannabes.”

Reid then ominously predicted that “something is going to happen” that will stop Bundy from grazing his cattle on allegedly federal land:

“It’s obvious that you can’t just walk away from this. And we can speculate all we want to speculate to what’s going to happen next. But I don’t think it’s going to be tomorrow that something is going to happen, but something will happen.”

The Battle of Bunkerville may merely be a dress rehearsal for what lies ahead – a rising confrontation between the government and the American people.

H/t FOTM’s Wild Bill Alaska, swampygirl and CSM


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0 responses to “BLM vs. Bundy: Bundy spews, while Reid calls militia “domestic terrorists”

  1. I did not view Mr. Bundy’s remarks as racist.he isn’t very articulate but I see where he was going with this.Blacks have not taken full advantage of the freedoms in this country to prosper.
    The race baiters are in full bloom. Whether you like what he said or not, i do believe we have a 1st Amendment is this country. The left always attacks with hatred and garbage and looks for a chance to push their agenda. This whole situation is going to get blown totally out of site if you keep repeating ignorance. This is about the Feds stealing land from people. I wish Nevada would get a backbone like Texas. Like Judge Napolitano said, “no where in the constitution does it allow the government to own land.” The government did this to the indians too.
    why hasn’t the media been more focused on the fact that Reid wants to sell our lands to the Chinese government and he makes money and the American people get sold out again.

    • Blacks have NOTHING to do with state’s rights and the federal government’s tyrannical takeover of western states’ land. As a supporter of the 10th Amendment, I do not appreciate Bundy mouthing off about “negroes,” thereby giving the Left even more ammunition. So former Congressman Allen West, neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson, Rev. James Manning, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas are now “negroes”? Cliven Bundy is his own worst enemy. He also has alienated politicians like Sens. Heller and Paul who were his supporters. No politician will now come near him, which will make the battle for state’s rights all the harder.

      • What does “negro” really mean? It means “black” in Spanish and Portuguese. As long as it is not used in a derogatory manner, what is wrong with that?

        • See this:

          The problem is, it has been turned into a societal “brainwash” term, that is to say, idiots used it as a derogatory term towards other people with more skin pigment than them, and so those people with more pigment were subsequently conditioned to perceive the word as an automatic insult, as such it has become a “weaponized word”, used to support, or to defame, causes or opinions, in the public mind. The original word did not carry any negative connotation (Such as in the Niger river, or Nigeria), but negative connotation was grafted onto it later, although many might still think it more polite than the similarly weaponized mutant form of the word found in “boondocks” and used so often by rappers to describe each other.

          People still using it as a derogatory term, are actually aiding the puppets of evil in keeping the “weaponized word” in “service” so to speak. We could reasonably guess bundy was using the word in it’s weaponized mode, given the context in which he applied it, therefore rendering service unto the enemy of all mankind. Either he’s being ignorant, or being willfully (with intent) obtuse.
          Given mormonism’s prior stance on folks with greater amounts of skin pigment, it is likely he is being willfully obtuse, and thereby undermining his position as the government’s victim. (perhaps intentionally so? What all do we know about Mr. Bundy, really?)

          • I thought the “N” word was the one that was so derogatory. And is it true that the Mormons once banned black people from joining their religion? I know very little about the Mormon religion.

            • It is true, mormonism originally taught that people with “dark skin” had “sinned” in their pre-life by aiding the devil in his war against God, the black skin was considered a “mark” and curse on them for this alleged pre-life behavior. This is also the reason why native Americans were considered fallen as well, their darker skin meant they didn’t fight very valiantly against the devil in “pre-life”.
              Ultimately folks with dark skin were not permitted to hold “priesthood” in the mormon religion until only recently, when the winds of popularity drifted against that organization’s standpoint. (see here: ) There is much in mormonism that decidedly marks it as anti-christian, this is just one of the sins (others being incest, pedophilia, theology and cosmology that rely on the doctrines of evolution and aliens, false flag attacks etc. the false flag in question also occurred on 9/11, called the mountain meadows massacre.) Suffice it to say, bad stuff.

        • And it’s a word considered offensive by many in English, which is the language he was speaking. Don’t use a shitty argument like “well it means something else in Spanish”.

      • Eowyn, hang on a bit. Bundy is old school and tucked away on the farm. He is not PC. Let me find a clip of him talking to get it in context.
        Yes “Negro” does not help, but it beats the alternative. LOL

        Here is his full comment.

        ““I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

        “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

        In this day and age it’s racist beyond belief. But I don’t think that’s where he was coming from.

        • OK, I found this clip of him explaining himself. Seems like he really put his foot in his mouth with the original stuff. In this clip from CNN the guy goes on to quote Sean Hannity
          Blah blah. Hannity is a piece of crap in my book. Listen to the quote. I mean he chucked Bundy under the bus just to be Ohhhh so PC.
          Now as I said Bundy , to me meant well. Often I’ve been saying myself that the Black community has been put back in chains and don’t even realize it because of Dem/Gov policies. I think that’s what Bundy is saying.
          He definitely needs to learn how to watch how he speaks in this day and age.Please people don’t bow to political pressure on this so quick. It’s what’s in the mans heart that counts.

          • “It’s what’s in the mans heart that counts.”

            And how would you know what’s in Bundy’s heart? I would be careful making him into a hero, and hitching the State’s Rights battle to his wagon.

            • Eowyn, Yes it is what’s in his heart. He did not come across as a mean spirited racist. Maybe a racist with his views, but he was also lamenting the plight of the black community.
              I’m not making him a hero. Hell I haven’t even decided one way or the other. And where do you see me hitching “States Rights”
              What this was is a set up by the New York Times to get him to put his foot in his mouth and he obliged.
              It’s real funny there is no context to be found before or after of this exchange.

    • Chris, because Reid was not selling our land to the Chinese. There was a Chinese backer of an American corporation that wanted to invest in solar power a hundred miles from there. Therefore the media wasn’t selling us out again. The fact is that the media, that you read misinformed you about that. Which makes me say, that our media was messing with us again. Perhaps getting new information sources may be beneficial to you..

  2. The Southern Poverty Law Center is a Left Wing Hate Group populated with anti-Christian bigots!

  3. Who is Martin Armstrong?

    Quote from above: “Armstrong reminds us that “Obama’s head of the Justice Department, Eric Holder now Attorney General, called the shots on WACO back then. He got away with it before – why not again?”

    Eric Holder was appointed by President Ronald Reagan as a superior court judge for the District of Columbia.

    I ‘ve heard this from other misinformation artist, about Holder. Funny because Eric Holder was appointed by President Ronald Reagan as a superior court judge for the District of Columbia in 1998 and held that job until 6 months after Waco in the 1993.

    Why do RW extremist lie so often?

    • Chris, Bite me.

    • You are correct, Chris. The Waco siege took place in 1993, when Eric Holder was newly appointed by Bill Clinton to be U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. 4 years after the Waco siege, in 1997, was when Eric Holder became Deputy Attorney General, serving under Janet Reno.

      I am disappointed in Martin Armstrong (he’s a stock market analyst), and have deleted his quote from this post. Of course, all this does not mean that Holder won’t do a Janet Reno, should the Bundy situation become another Waco.

      As for your gratuitous insult “Why do RW extremist [sic] lie so often?,” if you’re so concerned about lies, you need look no further than the LW (leftwing) extremists of Barack Obama (“If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan), Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.

  4. I understand where he was going with his statement. Alot of people will not. He meant for their own good. Believe it or not. In his era and most of mine. Blacks were called negroes. We all know what Oprah calls them. They all call each other niggers. The PC movement made it worse than the “F” word. Now days people lose their breath and pass out if they hear it said. Most definitely I hope people do not lose sight of the real issue over something like this. It is time for all walks of life to come together.

    • Tina–I also know exactly where he was going with this statement. I also would be willing to bet that he was baited by someone to change the playing field. Having grown up in Mississippi many years ago and hearing family stories passes down about slaves and farms, I realize that he is simply an inarticulate older man. Heck, I might not have done any better if baited….

  5. Reblogged this on Cold Dead Hands Days and commented:
    Sounds to me like there continuously trying to smear him and destroy them in the media so that they can move in and kill him and his family without being gone down by American militia patriots.. I didn’t take anything he said as a racist. He had a valid point because maybe the left this ideal of freedom and government dependence is in fact worse than slavery? Think that’s what he was pondering and asking

  6. open mouth, insert foot…sometimes silence is golden

  7. Mr. Bundy was asked about blacks from the NYT reporter

    Mr. Bundy did not just out of no where start talking about blacks

    And before your inaccurate accusations get you sued, listen to the entire video and not just the snipet put out there by the left wing to fool the American People once again

    And in it’s entirety it is clear Mr. Bundy was not racist

    And I agree, the Bundy matter has nothing to do with the black people so therefore it was quite inappropriate and unprofessional of NYT to do so

    • He did not express himself well. There is more than one form of slavery. It seems to me that what he was trying to say was that under the welfare system blacks are just as enslaved as they were when they were actually slaves.

  8. Bundy may have had problems with the Feds but during the few times I heard him on camera, I think he may have spent too much time with cattle and not enough time with people. He sounded inarticulate and should have shortened his comments. Sometimes publicity elicits buffoonery.

  9. Bundy has my support. whether or not he says things outof context is only a side step the media uses to divert attention of the facts in what the BLM is doing and how stinkin govern ment thinks they own every thing. Yup, bundy has my support all the way 😀

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  10. Given this, perhaps he should ask the mormon church, with their billions in “tithes” flagrantly filched from people under the pretext of faith, for a bailout. (If they can blow so much money on a mall, surely they can help some poor old rancher trying to hold onto his land?)

    Lest we forget, mormonism is luciferian and gnostic at it’s core, it is as far removed from legitimate Christianity as any other polytheistic evolution-centered religion is, and it would seem this story may have been exploited as an advertising pamphlet for them. The saying “pride goes before a fall” may apply here, and it may be to the detriment of every citizen in the U.S. if he sparks the civil war the puppets of evil so desperately want.

  11. I understand where Mr Bundy was coming from. Is he articulate, no, but then when faced with a question like he was, and the whole question was not played on air. Put yourselves in his shoes, he spoke out of frustration. He fears for his life, his family and his living. He saw things these last weeks that no man should have to witness. He grew up with calling blacks negroes,and it wasn’t derogatory. Every few decades, the terms changes. It would be wonderful if no one ever mentioned race, we are Americans first and foremost.
    This was the distraction Harry Reid was praying for. Was the question a loaded plant, maybe?
    We are getting distracted from the original problem, government over stepping.
    Harry Reid has been given unlimited byes for his more than inflammatory statements and nary a word.
    The leftist media barely covered the Bundy situation, until now. Selective coverage.
    Don’t fall for a distraction, keep focused and perhaps Mr. Bundy will apologize if he offended anyone. He was trying to make a statement and fell a little short. But, he did speak the truth. Are blacks better off? Ask those in Detroit. Is this all is takes to turn your backs? This is exactly what Reid wants. Distraction from his numerous nefarious deeds over the years and his suddenly rise to questionable riches. He is still knee deep in in deals in the area. He was recently caught on film at a ground breaking.

    • Exactly.

      And it’s Bundy’s stupidity and grandiosity that caused the distraction. Conservatives and State’s Rightists didn’t cause the distraction.

  12. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this excellent post. It is incredible how Bundy alienated extremely important people, senators, representatives, et al., by his most stupid comments about race which has got nothing to do with the issues at hand. Good grief, talk about being your own worst enemy and setting forth a binge of comments that will follow him and conservatives forever. It is so important to THINK before you SPEAK! Now, he will be treated like the plague, because no senator or representative or respected conservative will want to be associated with him. Dear God!

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  14. Bundy stood up to the feds. That simple fact is what energized so many people. It’s sad he is not good at guarding his words now that he’s famous. I do agree that real lawmen should seize all the guns and ammo from the federal bureaucrats immediately. Can you imagine your local post office people showing up to your door with their shiny new SWAT vehicle, or the weather service guys armed to the teeth to enforce your carbon footprint issues? Frankly, if that happens, the only thing left of these guys will be a carbon footprint.

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