Moral Sickness at Root of America's Decay

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James Madison

How can self-government work if the people’s “self” is depraved? As James Madison so rightly observed, “What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature?” (Federalist No. 51, 1788)
Both the Left as well as Libertarians like to think that America’s Founding Fathers pursued individual liberty merely and solely for itself, without regard to matters of morality and faith.
Not true.

Thomas Jefferson in old age

Our Founders believed that the new American Republic was possible and viable only if it rested on the proper foundation or infrastructure — a virtuous people. (A good book on this is The Moral Foundations of the American Republic.)
In a letter to George Logan in 1816, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “The man who is dishonest as a statesman would be a dishonest man in any station. It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings collected together are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately.”

John Adams

John Adams, in his letter to Mercy Warren in 1776, similarly noted: “Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private, and public virtue is the only foundation of republics. There must be a positive passion for the public good, the public interest, honour, power and glory, established in the minds of the people, or there can be no republican government, nor any real liberty….”
But it was George Washington, the Father of the new American Republic, who put it best when he sounded this warning in his first inaugural address in 1789: “There exists in the economy and course of nature an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness … we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.”

George Washington praying at Valley Forge


Popular culture is the expression of a people’s moral orientation. Look at the state of America’s pop culture today.
Who speaks of “virtue” today? What an old-fashioned archaic word!
A half-naked Britney “The Crotch” Spears, 29, bumps, grinds, and gyrates before a rapt crowd of 6,000 in San Francisco; while the media slavishly report on the latest antics of bad “boys” like middle-aged Charlie Sheen, 45, and bad “girls” like mature adult Lindsay Lohan, 24.
Less than 20 minutes after the tickets for Sheen’s two “My Violent Torpedo of Truth/Defeat is Not an Option” concerts went on sale, they were all sold out. So he expanded his concert tour to 20 cities. A ticket for his “concert” in San Francisco costs $97 to $136. After Lohan wore a tightly-fitted white Kimberly Ovitz dress to court to face grand theft charges of a necklace she claims she had merely “borrowed” from a jewelry store, the $575 dress quickly sold out.

Alexander Hamilton


So much for our supposed economic recession-depression!
Did you know that John Adams was 41, Thomas Jefferson only 30, and Alexander Hamilton a mere 21 years old, in 1776 when the American Revolution began? [Source]
At the root of our political-economic-social problems is plain moral rot.
~Eowyn

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  1. very true Eo-“Moral Rot”,”Moral Decay”,”Demoralization” there is a specific plan to do this to society on purpose.

     
  2. “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn”. Proverbs 29-2 “If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked”. Pro. 29 -12. “And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man saying. We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach”. Isiah 4 -1 Soound familiar?

     
  3. The tipping point came for me, when former president Clinton was exonerated for his extramarital peccadilloes by his supporters and apologists as “being human” or “simply doing what others have done”. I expect and demand that my leaders have higher moral standards than the average person. A parent has to have higher morality standards than their children. I expect my pastor to have higher standards than the parishioners, etc. People have become accustomed to this social decay because of it’s celebration by TV and the general media. We have this type of behavior these days because we tolerate and allow it.

     
  4. I consider myself to be a libertarian. I believe that our Lord has given us free will. We each have to make the personal decision to do good or evil. I do not trust any government to decide what I should believe or whom to worship. I believe in our Lord Jesus Christ because it is the right thing to do, not because the government tells me to. I pity the poor souls that live in countries that demand their citizens to follow Islam. I consider the Christians living in those countries to be brave, often to the point of being martyrs.
    I have to get off the soapbox now, my wife needs it to reach something in the cabinet.

     
    • Pappy,
      Ummm, how did you go from (a) my post about republican government requiring a people of virtue for it to work to (b) government stepping in “to decide what I should believe or whom to worship”? (a) does not entail (b) — the two are not logically linked. Nor is my post a statement about free will!
      Having said all that you’ve said (and I heartily agree with your first comment about too many Americans being tolerant of Bill Clinton’s disgusting behavior in the White House — oral sex under the desk! cigar inserted into the wench’s wazoo! whoopee! — then committing perjury about it), we are still left with the problem of how a people who pretend to self-goverment manage to foster a culture of morals and virtues.

       
      • “Both the Left as well as Libertarians like to think that America’s Founding Fathers pursued individual liberty merely and solely for itself, without regard to matters of morality and faith.”
        I was referring to your second paragraph. I wholeheartedly agree with your post but, I am uncomfortable with libertarians being grouped with leftist. I believe that liberty without personal responsibility can not exist.
        Freedom / freewill is God given and is not a license for immorality, and no government should be dictating what our moral standards should be (I don’t think they are doing a good job these days, ie. what is being indoctrinated in public schools, “Safe School czar” Kevin Jennings, and so on); are the two points I am trying to make.
        I apologize for going on about seeming unrelated ideas. They are related in my mind. I do not think that libertarian thinking is excluded from Christian belief.

         
        • Pappy,
          It turns out there are at least 8 varities of Libertarianism: Individualism, Libertarian Conservatism, Left-Libertarianism, Anarchism, Libertarian Socialism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and Geolibertarianism. So which kind are you?
          I’ve become increasingly troubled by Libertarians and Libertarianism mainly because it has become so strongly identified with Ayn Rand, who is described as “the most popular and influential libertarian figure of the twentieth century.”
          See my post “Ayn Rand hated Libertarians.”

           
          • Heck, I don’t know. I simply can not call myself a Republican & I certainly am not Democrat. That is why I referred to my views as libertarian with a small “l”. I can’t say that I am in complete agreement with any person or political party. I guess I will call myself ” Southern libertarian” as I think governing should be done at the most local level possible with The Bill of Rights as a guide. The federal government, or agencies have no business being the “politically correct” gestapo. I think the Dept. of “Edumacation” has been a major factor in the decline of our morality.

             
            • I’m not registered as Republican or Democrat either, but as a non-partisan Independent. But that’s merely my political party identification.
              I am unambiguous about my political ideology — I’m a Conservative, in the tradition of the Founding Fathers!

               
              • I consider President Reagan, Sen. Jesse Helms (NC), Sen. Barry Goldwater(AZ) to be among the few modern day political patriots. I hope someone has the “Right Stuff” these men had to lead our country out of this mess our country is in now.

                 
  5. Great stuff!

     
  6. Fantastic post! I didn’t realize that Jefferson was so young at the time of the revolution. It makes me realize that I need to be a lot more diligent. Tempus fugit.
    This is so true: a democratic government can only work when the people are virtuous. Otherwise, they figure out that they can vote free stuff for themselves.

     
    • Thank you, Michael. 🙂
      I feel even more humbled and ashamed by Alexander Hamilton , who was even younger than Jefferson — only 21 years old! General George Washington’s aide-de-camp during the American Revolutionary War, Hamilton has been lauded as “more than any other designed the Government of the United States”. He was one of America’s first constitutional lawyers, and (together with James Madison) wrote most of the Federalist Papers, a primary source for Constitutional interpretation.

       
      • I think this is what I have been trying to express. The Federal government has no business dictating what our morals should be. When I was in public elementary school, we had devotion & prayer daily. I felt no pressure to be a Christian. That had to come from within and under The Lord’s terms.

         
        • Some of my favorite quotes from Gen. Robert E. Lee are: “We must expect reverses, even defeats. They are sent to teach us wisdom and prudence, to call forth greater energies, and to prevent our falling into greater disasters.”; “Meddle or interfere with nothing with which you have no concern.”; “My chief concern is to try to be an humble, earnest Christian.”

           
  7. And this… Snooki (of Jersey Shore infamy) gets higher speaking fees than Nobel Prize-winner at Rutgers U.
    “Snooki Earns Higher Speaking Fee Than Toni Morrison,” by Josh Duboff, omg! via Yahoo!, 1 APR 11
    http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/thefamous/snooki-earns-higher-speaking-fee-than-toni-morrison/978?nc

     
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  9. America is so sick that I now believe it to be the enemy of the world. I know next to nothing about Iran, but the little I do know tells me they are far higher morally than this financially failing filth farm.

     
    • Iran, morally higher than America, Rusty? Surely, you jest. It’s not possible to get an accurate read on the millions of good and moral people in America by judging them by the actions of our corrupt government.
      America is not perfect, but it is still the greatest country in the world. No country had done so much good for so many people than America. If America falls, the world falls.
      However, we have been infiltrated by the radical progressive Left and a fraud for president.

       
      • I appreciate all that you do, and sincerely thank you. You may call me at any time, block your phone number, I will answer. It is my belief that we are one in the same, and that my progress on this learning curve goes beyond that understood by the few left with ant moral fiber.7064421031

         
      • It is possible, you might be the only one on the internet that has gotten through the censors.Though you probably are no less than a government information gathering devise, I will tell you how happy I am that the yield on the 10 year tres note is almost 3%. The end comes, and I love it.

         
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