Vermont “republican” governor signs restrictive gun control law bills, including background check on private sales

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Governor Phil Scott: He knows what’s right…

A democrat state senator has voiced his concern against the new gun control laws signed by the republican governor. Imagine that…

From MSN: Vermont on Wednesday raised the age to buy firearms, banned high-capacity magazines and made it easier to take guns from people who pose a threat — the first significant gun ownership restrictions in state history, signed into law by the Republican governor.

It’s a remarkable turnaround for the largely rural state that traditionally has refused to impose restrictions on gun ownership.

Standing on the Statehouse steps, Gov. Phil Scott signed the three bills into law before a crowd of gun rights activists and supporters of gun control. “This is not the time to do what’s easy, it’s time to do what’s right,” the governor said.

Scott, a gun owner, had urged the Legislature to pass gun restrictions in the aftermath of what police called a narrowly averted school shooting in Fair Haven by a teenager. He said the incident proved to him that Vermont isn’t immune from the school violence that has plagued other parts of the country.

An arrest in the February Fair Haven case came the day after a high school shooting in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 people dead.

Vermont’s new gun laws are mild by some standards. But they are part of a trend of states passing gun restrictions, prompted in part by the Florida mass shooting, said Robert Spitzer, a political science professor at the State University of New York at Cortland who has written books on gun policy.

“There has been movement in a number of states,” Spitzer said. But Vermont is significant “because Vermont is traditionally such a strong gun-rights state and has not moved in this direction in ages, if ever,” he said.

While gun control advocates have praised Vermont’s new laws, the state’s traditionally powerful gun rights advocates and members of the outdoor community feel betrayed by Scott, whom many supported during his 2016 election campaign. During debate on the legislation, many firearms owners milled around the Statehouse halls wearing hunter orange vests or hats.

“The tyranny of democracy has overwhelmed the protections of my constitutional, individual rights,” said Bill Moore, a firearms policy analyst for the Vermont Traditions Coalition who fought against the gun restrictions.

Gun rights advocates in the state generally support taking guns away from people deemed dangerous or prone to domestic violence, both covered by the new legislation. But they fiercely oppose provisions in the laws that raise the age to buy firearms from 18 to 21, restrict the size of gun magazines and require background checks for most private gun sales.

On Tuesday, a bipartisan group of Vermont lawmakers urged Scott to veto the bill that contains the provisions they find onerous.

Democratic State Sen. John Rodgers, who represents a rural area of the state known as the Northeast Kingdom and spoke fiercely against some of the gun restrictions, is considering a run for governor.

“It will affect law-abiding citizens while doing nothing to stop evil people and criminals from doing harm to others,” Rodgers said of the legislation.

But supporters of the restrictions say the time has come in Vermont.

“I think it sends a signal that the cultural shift … is huge in Vermont, and I don’t think there is anything in these bills that are going to take guns away from any law-abiding person,” said Clai Lasher-Sommers, executive director of the Gun Sense Vermont, which was formed in the aftermath of the 2012 elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 first-graders and educators dead.

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23 responses to “Vermont “republican” governor signs restrictive gun control law bills, including background check on private sales

  1. Well here we go again. Funny thing I’ve seen people do demonstrations on high capacity magazines. A instructor showed that it means nothing he took a bag with 8 pistols that were revolvers yes I said revolvers you know old tech. And he set up some targets he then pulled and shot every gun back to back took him so many mins to do it . Then he picked up an AR-15 with the same amount of bullets and did the same thing and guess what took about the same amount of time. So many myths about guns and the media has dumped down the masses about firearms that most of them have no idea what a weapon can do.
    I only hope someone or organization goes after them in court and challenges this stupid law. “SHALL NOT INFRINGE” I am guessing most people on the left can’t read or are just that stupid.

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    • Brian . . . Wow! That is vey interesting to compare the time of shooting between revolvers and an AR-15. We have so many dillweed people, who are willing to throw away the Constitution in order that they can “FEEL SAFE,” now I did not indicate “BE SAFE,” I said “FEEL SAFE.” This is just a whole fiasco involving smoke and mirrors. Here we have a stupid Republican Governor who caved to public opinion.

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    • People must learn NOT to discuss this past “shall not be infringed”. It doesn’t say anything about “law abiding” or any other qualifier. This is a total “just say no” deal.

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    • It’s just an excuse, for Democrats…

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  2. No matter how many laws are passed, the criminal element, the unstable, the crazies, all the rejects, will find a way to have firearms because the unscrupulous element out there will be the providers. It’s a never ending problem.

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    • Alma . . . . There is no doubt that what you are saying is the absolute truth, the “unscrupulous element” in our society will go ahead and do whatever they want to do. The farther down to road to disarmament we go, the lesser the people who are honest and good of heart will be. They will be left with no means to protect themselves or their families.

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  3. Clai Lasher-Sommers was apparently shot in the back decades ago by an abusive stepfather, and in this snowflake world of ours that makes her an expert on guns and a leader in legislating their acquisition and use. By the same snowflake logic it follows that if there’s a plane crash in Vermont, new rules for airline safety will be adopted by following the advice of passengers who were strapped into their seats and peeing in their pants when it happened.

    Vermont and its locals are wonderful, but the leftist carpetbaggers from NY have been trying to turn it into Massachusetts since the 60s, and it looks like the tipping point was just passed. For non-New Englanders, you may not know that Vermont was invaded by New York leftist “heads,” starting back in the 60s, so they could grow and smoke “weed” without getting harassed, much like what happened in Colorado, and—oy vey—it’s never been the same. Bernie Sanders comes to mind.

    Vermont is a real farming state with real farmers who can make a living and feed others in that climate. But that woman Clai now runs a woman-only “farm” that’s “sustainable,” etc, meaning that if it’s practices were actually put into practice, people would starve within months. I’ll bet the situation up there’s the same as pretty much everywhere else, and we get RINOs because Dem sleepers like that governor go to our party meetings while we don’t even know where those meetings are held.

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    • The whole thing is a sick joke. It happens because they know that no one will do anything about their paternalism and overreach. Who cares what “THEY” think? They don’t work for us, plain and simple. Now, what are we going to do about that?

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  4. Clai Lasher-Sommers was apparently shot in the back decades ago by an abusive stepfather, and in this snowflake world of ours that makes her an expert on guns and a leader in legislating their acquisition and use. By the same snowflake logic it follows that if there’s a plane crash in Vermont, new rules for airline safety will be adopted by following the advice of passengers who were strapped into their seats and peeing in their pants when it happened.

    Vermont and its locals are wonderful, but the leftist carpetbaggers from NY have been trying to turn it into Massachusetts since the 60s, and it looks like the tipping point was just passed. For non-New Englanders, you may not know that Vermont was invaded by New York leftist “heads,” starting back in the 60s, so they could grow and smoke “weed” without getting harassed, much like what happened in Colorado, and—oy vey—it’s never been the same. Bernie Sanders comes to mind.

    Vermont is a real farming state with real farmers who can make a living and feed others in that climate. But that woman Clai now runs a woman-only “farm” that’s “sustainable,” etc, meaning that if it’s practices were actually put into practice, people would starve within months. I’ll bet the situation up there’s the same as pretty much everywhere else, and we get RINOs because Dem sleepers like that governor go to our party meetings while we don’t even know where those meetings are held.

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  6. First of all, I’ve seen very little proof that 17 people died at Parkland. Second, it’s clear to anyone with even a modicum of reasoning skills that NO ONE died at Sandy Hook. So let’s stop using these false narratives to justify subsequent actions, and let’s stop inserting them into stories as if they’re proven events and not FFs. Remember Saddam’s WMDs? Remember the Gulf of Tonkin? Remember Lee Harvfey Oswald? How did those narratives turn out? What did they result in, something good or something bad? Yeah, I thought so. Now…

    As a former Vermont resident, I can tell you that it’s a state divided. There’s Burlington and surrounding Chittenden County, and there’s Montpelier. This is where 90% of the liberals and gun control advocates live. Then there’s the rest of the state, where 90% of the gun owners live on 90% of the land. It’s just like Trump winning the vast majority of counties, but Hellary winning the liberal coasts. I’m here to tell you, those 90% are not happy with Governor Scott. I might even go so far as to say they’re p^^^ed off. So, I have these words for the Governor:

    Governor Scott, you’ve badly mis-read your constituents. You’ve been exposed as JARINO (Just Another Republican in Name Only). I hope you enjoyed your one term in office.

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    • That description matches a lot of the U.S.. In the case of the Second Amendment it is little different in that it is VERY specific. In other words, if we can’t win an argument using the Second Amendment, we’re doomed.

      There is NOTHING ambiguous about it. No one should EVER concede anything to an argument that reduces that dynamic. In that way, attempts to control ammunition (as Obongo did), or sales, or transport, or financing, or anything else can be challenges as infringements.

      By allowing exceptions you open the door to stupid disputes.

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  7. Didn’t the jews feel safe when they boarded the trains bound for the death camps? Vermont is filled with the rejects of society and its castoffs so I am not surprised about their need to feel safe. I bet the per centage of people there under professional mental health care puts them in the top ten per cent of the nation.

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    • Actually, Dan’s reply above is a very much spot-on description of VT in 2018. I would add that it’s not just New Yorkers who have infiltrated the state and its politics, and who especially don’t understand its culture and want to change it to their liking. People from NJ, CT, and Eastern MA have also been over-running VT for decades. These people truly view Vermont as their private vacation playground, and in some ways, as their utopia. As a result, they’ve tried to impose their urban politics and values on a rural state, and the result has been like oil meeting water. Traditional values and the Constitution are under attack. The cost of everything has been driven up, especially housing. There are places in Vermont now where Vermonters can’t afford to live. Thus, even more flatlanders arrive. Native Vermonters even joke that if you stand on a hill in Burlington on a clear day, you can actually see Vermont from there.

      In reality, in most of Vermont, a man’s word is still his bond, and a handshake still carries more weight than a contract. It’s a wonderful and beautiful state to live in and raise a family. If you move there and are willing to assimilate and respect their culture (especially hunting), you’ll be welcomed. If you’re all about changing stuff, good luck. Truth be told though, I think most Vermonters would support signs at every border crossing saying “Welcome to Vermont. Now get the hell out”. And I get it.

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  8. Yup, the things that pass for conservative in New England are pretty pathetic.

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  9. ““There has been movement in a number of states,” Spitzer said. But Vermont is significant “because Vermont is traditionally such a strong gun-rights state and has not moved in this direction in ages, if ever,” he said.”
    And those other States are being equally STUPID. If they want to stop the problem,the cure is MORE guns being carried,and concentrating on the red flags that have been evident,in EVERY shooting,for days,months,even YEARS,but the people didn’t pick up on them,or saw them and didn’t act on them at the time,or the DID call the “Authorities” and THEY did NOTHING. These signs of trouble are NOT things the person will “grow out of” or will somehow “resolve” later. They need to be spotted,brought to the attention of the Authorities and acted upon AT THE TIME,or we risk another loose cannon shooting people. It’s already been established repeatedly that guns in the hands of the people are one of the best and most successful safeguards to the people of anything that can be done. If I am attacked by a mentally unstable shooter,I ALONE am the First Responder,I am the ONLY defense on the scene,but without mu gun,I’m nothing more than another target. That concept applies equally to every American-even the very same gun control supporters we endure attacks (both political and actual shootings)from almost daily. (It truly a shame they can’t force themselves to use just a wee bit of their brains to learn LOGIC,COMMON SENSE and PROJECTIVE REASONING-That is what I call following an idea through to recognize what the extended outcome would most likely be. Unfortunately,they can only think as far ahead as the NEXT move,which we’ve seen is always the main cause of “Unintended Consequences”.)

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  10. AS A VERMONTER I am greatly relieved that someone is paying attention to what is going on here. We-the-People have NO say. We are in a banana republic in Vermont. The news papers are completely controlled by the government, as are the schools, libraries, churches…need I go on?
    No matter what we have done, we are not taken seriously. We are lied to and ignored.
    I was, for a time, on a very powerful board of directors comprised of some politicians, lawyers, and a bevy of social service reps. They are DECIDERS. I just couldn’t do it anymore. There was NO discussion, just the requirement that one be a good bobble head saying “yea” to any and all proposals.
    We felt safe here strictly because of the lack of gun ownership restrictions.
    No longer.

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    • Sounds like Vermont is messed up…

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    • I’ve always liked Vermont. I used to point them out as an example of independence. Parts of Maine used to be that way too.

      We all know this is pure lies and manipulation. They simply do not work for us. They need to be confronted by this wherever they go. People should be standing there saying, “Hey, why aren’t you working for us, we pay your salary?”, or, “Why don’t you move to Israel, you’ll get a better exchange rate on your shekels?”.

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      • Someone please correct me if I’m a little off on this, but I remember seeing statistics not too many years back that Maine has one of the two lowest gun crime rates in the country, and New Hampshire and Vermont are in the top 10. Not so coincidentally, these three states have top 10 gun ownership rates as well. Enough said.

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    • How progressives want to do things, exactly… commies.

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  11. Background checks on private sales?

    Good luck enforcing that.

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    • True story-Nevada had that law force-fed to us by the Socialist dots of Lost Wages and Reno and,at least in Reno,the Sheriffs Officers said outright they won’t be enforcing it because they don’t have the “badges” available to follow everyone around,and many of the Deputies don’t believe it’s Constitutional.

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