South Carolina Rep. Ralph Norman puts loaded gun on a table at meeting to make a point

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Liberals’ head promptly explode.

Not the best way to make his point, IMO. But I get where he’s coming from. Must suck to be so triggered by seeing a gun sitting on a table.

From Fox News: To make a point that guns are dangerous only in the hands of criminals, a South Carolina congressman on Friday pulled out a loaded handgun during a meeting with constituents.

U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman, a Republican, reportedly placed the .38-caliber gun on a table during the “coffee with constituents” meeting at a Rock Hill restaurant.

“I’m not going to be a Gabby Giffords,” Norman said, referring to the former Arizona congresswoman who was shot outside a grocery store during a 2011 constituent gathering.

In a follow-up statement, Giffords’ husband, retired NASA astronaut Mark Kelly, criticized Norman’s stunt.

“Americans are increasingly faced with a stark choice: leaders like Gabby, who work hard together to find solutions to problems, or extremists like the NRA and Congressman Norman, who rely on intimidation tactics and perpetuating fear,” Kelly said.

Norman, who reportedly holds a state-issued concealed-carry gun permit, said he’ll display his gun at future constituent meetings. “I’m tired of these liberals jumping on the guns themselves as if they are the cause of the problem,” Norman told the Post and Courier. “Guns are not the problem.”

Norman’s point about gun safety drew support from Republicans in the state, the newspaper reported. “Hysterical to see liberals freak out over @RalphNorman accurately demonstrating that guns really are inanimate objects,” state GOP Chairman Drew McKissick tweeted.

But some meeting attendees had a different view.

” … (H)he chose to take the gun out and put it on the table not knowing if any of us had mental health issues,” said Lori Carter, a schoolteacher from Charlotte, N.C., told the newspaper. “What was to prevent me from leaning across the table to take that gun?

“I felt it was highly inappropriate for an elected official, honestly, and it almost felt like an intimidation tactic,” Carter added.

Meanwhile, South Carolina Democratic Party chairman Trav Robertson criticized Norman’s action, saying “no responsible gun owner” would do such a thing.

DCG

59 responses to “South Carolina Rep. Ralph Norman puts loaded gun on a table at meeting to make a point

  1. Yes, it is highly inappropriate for an elected official to put a loaded gun on a table to drive the point through that guns in the hands of criminals are dangerous weapons, and the representative also has a state issued concealed carry gun permit for his protection but, is it as bad as people continuously threatening to kill the President, say Madonna, Rosi O’Donnell, and worse yet DEMOCRAT SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS. Isn’t she driving tjhe point to have the President killed?

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  2. Kevin J Lankford

    Our founders expected us all to be ‘responsible gun owners’.

    I suspect miss carter does have “mental health issues”, if her first thought was to lean across the table to take that gun;….and do…what. (that is, “what if”)

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  3. balls and bullets…a rare combination today

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  4. BRAVO!!! We need more like Ralph Norman! Giffords is a fake, I’ve been watching and studying her since she allegedly got shot ‘in the head’? I have never once read any Article or watched a Video where they have once failed to mention “Giffords husband, retired NASA astronaut Mark Kelly”. That’s exactly how they’ve stated it for years now, as to give him credibility. If you really look into everything surrounding her being shot, it’s a Sandy Hook for sure…another miraculous rebound in a matter of days to hit the gun grabbing campaign trail. Her Husband is actually the driving force of their Agenda to Disarm us…a snake.

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      • Anonymous . . . From this picture of both Mr and Mrs Giffords . . . it would seem although Gabby Giffords is present, it is her husband who is out front at this particular gathering. Then we must ask ourselves the question . . . since Gabby may be suffering from diminished capacity from being shot, but she is maintaining her position in Congress–is it actually Mr Giffords who is the force of nature behind her position? I think it is rather odd that in this picture, Gabby Giffords is NOT STANDING BESIDE HER HUSBAND, she is standing in the row behind him. This is quite peculiar to say the least. If I were a voter from whatever state she hales from, frankly I would vote to replace her . . . it would appear that she really is not up to the job of fulfilling her duties as a public servant.

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    • Stovepipe . . . . Bravo! Very well said. I also had noticed that each and every time Giffords was mentioned, they always included, “Giffords husband, retired MASA astronaut Mark Kelly,” as if the fact that he was an astronaut shed some special mystical light on her as his wife, and a member of Congress. I am very sorry that she was shot, but what does that have to do with negating the Second Amendment? There have been many, many others in our nation who have been shot, but they have not continuously clamored for the rupture and breakage of certain Amendments. Frankly, her ongoing mantra of “We need to take your guns” begins to cause my ears to weary of hearing this. We have had two other individuals who were also shot–Scalise (forgive me if I have spelled his name incorrectly,) and President Regan . . .did they holler about disarming every-one? Certainly not that I remember.

      Frankly, I think this seems to prove exactly what any number of us have thought for some time . . . woman lead with their hearts, men think things out logically in their minds! Since time and time again, this seems to bare out with the actions of women; for this reason many people, including me do not necessarily feel that women are suited for the position of POTUS. I would much rather have a leaders who think logically than one who is influenced in their decision making by the pulling’s of their heart-strings. Since this particular woman spends so much time in her pursuit of “disarming her fellow citizens,” would it not be better for our country to have someone else take her seat, where they will not be so overwhelmingly burdened with the emotional trauma of having been shot? I do not bare any grudge against this woman, I just think she needs to have the pressure of being a public servant lifted from her shoulders. Even if we have to concede that perhaps since she was hit in the head with the bullet, perhaps she suffers from the vestiges of brain damage, which is also a convincing reason for her to be relieved from the strenuous rigors of public life.

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      • I like what you said. Why would we ever want to elect a woman or anyone whose first desire is to attack the second amendment and start taking our rights away. That isn’t the job of President, but it is to protect us.
        I have never once heard any of them say, let’s take all cars, for those beasts kill thousands every year. And you think they would be more active in helping the President stop this horrible influx of drugs that kill more people in a month than guns do in a year.
        So, you have to come to the conclusion, removing guns isn’t about protecting our safety, but to eventually take our lives also.

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    • Yep, sure is.

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    • Judge Roll and the other 5…the forgotten.

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  5. Notice that not once did the gun jump up and threaten anyone in the room. It laid there like the dead weight it is. Until put to any use a gun is an inanimate object. Much like a scalpel it depends upon its welder. A scalpel can cut away a cancerous mass or terminate a fetuses life. Do we ban scalpels? No, it’s better to stop the human element and there is the real challenge.

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    • Mad Celt . . . . Bravo! You did an excellent job of explaining just how it is that an “inanimate object” does not pose a problem. It is always the person welding the inanimate object that poses the problem. Since, unfortunately, those on the left are not able to grasp and actually understand that principal–it does little good debating with them. It’s like getting into an intellectual debate with someone who left their brain at home.

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  6. Clearly those people at the meeting have mental health issues if they objected to the Congressman having a gun. How do they muster the nerve to leave their safe spaces each day knowing they walk among people with sharp pointy objects and armed with hands and feet-which kill more people than “assault rifles?”

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  7. Awesome!!!!
    Only bad thing is I can’t vote for this guy! I live about an hour or so south of Rock Hill…. Oh well, still AWESOME!!!!!!!

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    • JerryO . . . . I certainly do agree with you. It is “AWESOME” to see that some public leaders actually have brains that are hitting on all cylinders!

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  8. Good stunt, but misjudged. Goes against the first rule of gun safety, and others. It would have sufficed to stand up and show his HOLSTERED gun to everybody. Would have gotten the message across without giving the retards something to complain about.

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  9. We need to end this cycle of primarily DEMOCRATS freaking out every damned time they SEE a gun,regardless of who has it.
    I carried my 9mm Hi-Point semi-auto,clearly visible,for two full days,running errands,buying groceries,paying bills,going into the Bank,getting gas in the truck,buying parts for my truck,visiting friends-VERY busy days,and what I heard from ALL the people I talked to and dealt with was–NOTHING! They weren’t affected or concerned in the slightest that I had one of those HORRIBLE GUNS. (It was loaded too,with one in the chamber and the safety locked. Most times there isn’t enough time to load a magazine and rack one into the chamber before the action’s already underway.
    Maybe the problem is that the gun control addicts don’t have the brains or common sense to RECOGNIZE a threat when they see it. I’m pretty sure everyone I spoke to could tell,by their God-given INSTINCT,that I was no threat,and likely all of ’em knew by the holstered gun on my hip that if a threat DID arise I’d be a front liner to stop that threat. I guess that’s the problem with the Liberals’ system of having the Government handle everything for ’em until it goes horribly wrong,when they go to Plan B-which is SOMEbody should do SOMEthing!!!!! (They never have the slightest idea WHAT somebody should do,or WHO should do it,except it won’t be THEM. How can people live that way?

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    • All through my teen years my cousin, who lived in Reno, and I would carry handguns openly everywhere we went in town. I never had anyone comment or act concerned. At the time the law said that, in a car, you had to set your handgun on the dashboard in plain sight.

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      • Believe it or not, Connecticut is an open carry State. I go everywhere, even Walmart, no one has ever commented, had a few looks, but nothing negative ever said.

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        • That’s great. I grew up in California but spent a lot of time in Nevada. The two could not have been more different. California too was an “open carry” state, but if you did it you would get harassed, guaranteed.

          To tell the truth, I was raised to be safe with guns. When I had one that’s what I was thinking about. It never really occurred to me that someone would get so twisted around the axle over it.

          I’m glad to hear Connecticut is an open carry state. I didn’t know that. I noticed the other day that my concealed carry license is recognized by something like 34 states now. That’s also great. California is not one of them.

          So it seems that in some respects gun laws are being liberalized while the liberals try to destroy them. I don’t have the words to describe how weird it strikes me that something that is Constitutionally protected can be a crime in some states. This is a sign of how divided and infiltrated we are.

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          • “California too was an “open carry” state, but if you did it you would get harassed, guaranteed.”

            I don’t mind any harassment…I just wouldn’t advertise the fact that I had a firearm. I don’t need any one try to follow me home to know where I live and where my firearms where located.

            Best to keep that information private, IMO.

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            • Spot on if you’re in a store and your showing that you carry then you are the first target they take out before they rob the store. Surprise is one of the greatest weapons you can have in an emergency situation.

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            • Yes, it was just a comment. It was a truthful one. I don’t know anymore, but when I was young they still followed the Constitution, maybe grudgingly. That was many years ago.

              I was pointing out that, in Nevada, you could walk around with a pistol on your hip and nobody got all excited. In California they would surely call a cop and the cop would keep you there questioning you about why you were carrying a gun.

              None of any of this has EVER been about crime. The cops want everyone disarmed because it gives them an advantage. The politicians want it because they think it reduces their risk.

              My point was, and always is, that we don’t need permission. We do not need to make excuses. We don’t have to “convince” anybody. If they want to go unarmed, fine. They do not have the right or the authority to dictate to the rest of us.

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          • If you go to this site, take a little time and open the links. It shows the Hogg’s, Obongo’s and Valery Jarret’s connections. I found it very interesting. There is also video footage of Parkland that I hadn’t seen. It has some of the “stars” from the wounded dialog and I think you’ll find it interesting. It is clearly faked.

            https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2485392

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          • Anonymous . . . . Those two pictures definitely deserve to be shown together. P.J. O’Rourke’s saying, as shown above, certainly does seem to fit Piglet to a tee. Piglet certainly is a useless, sniveling brat! I am dying to know where he is 10-15 years from now. Presently, he is such a despised, spoiled child, I have a hard time envisioning that he will pull out of the rut he is in, and actually make something of himself. Every time I see that weak chin, and pouty mouth of his it is hard to imagine that he is not the 17 year old he is trying to pass himself off as. I wish him every inconvenience, every stone of hindrance in his path, every possible problem that could beset him. A pox on him until he reaches the ripe old age of 60.

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            • “A pox on him until he reaches the ripe old age of 60.”
              And THEN he can start fighting for survival as the young,dynamic workforce turns their back on the “old guy”.

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    • The reason nobody was worried is because it’s a Hi-Point. Everybody knows it won’t fire, har har ;-D

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      • Good point, lousy gun.

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        • Funny-I’ve NEVER had a problem with MY Hi-Point. It works fine,shoots whatever 9mm ammo I give it without a problem,even reloads. Are you sure you know how to shoot? Besides,if it fails to work,it’s guaranteed for life,so if it doesn’t work for you,send it back and have it FIXED. (Maybe it’ll work better if you stamp it with “S&W” or “GLOCK” and tell everybody you paid 3X what you actually paid….
          OH,I get it. This is like the old argument over how much better a HURST shifter is than a FENTON shifter. Obviously the Hurst is better because it’s twice the price of a Fenton and has HURST stamped into the lever. (Truth is that THAT was the only difference-they were made by the same company,on the same assembly line,with the same parts,except for the stick. Status symbol kinda thing.)
          APPEASEMENT DISCLAIMER
          I know this was only intended to be humor;YES-Hi-Points ARE popular with the low income shooters because they’re good guns,low cost,aren’t expensive to fix if you manage to screw one up,but they don’t have the high-dollar labels or the state of the art bells-n-whistles the fancy guns have. Experience shows me that everyone I know who owns multiple gins and has owned a Hi-Point STILL owns at least one.
          Okay-Rant is Over. Have a GREAT DAY everyone!!!

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    • I’m all for duct taping them naked to a tree on an ant hill. Just pour some honey on ’em and walk away.

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    • truck . . . . Your response above was Awesome! Perhaps what we need is for liberals to see common, ordinary people carrying guns in order to dispel that rabid fear that have towards guns.

      I would hope that if I am ever in a situation where I needed HELP immediately in a dangerous situation that someone such as yourself would step up and offer assistance to me. I agree far too many people think that the government should and will step in to save them, but that just does not happen in real life.

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  10. Rep. Norman’s stunt violated at least two and possibly all three of the first rules of safe shooting: 1. Always keep the firearm pointed in a safe direction, 2. Always keep the firearm unloaded until you are ready to use it. 3. Always keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

    I understand what he was trying to demonstrate. But the way he did it just gives the snowflakes an opportunity to demonize all gun owners by association. The fact is, he laid a loaded firearm on a table that was surrounded with constituents. There is no doubt but that the gun was pointed at someone in the room. Jurist is correct. Rep. Norman could have made his point another way. What he did, however, was just plain stupid.

    I believe in the absolute necessity of preserving the Second Amendment. It is the amendment that guarantees us that the other nine will stand. I am a “pry my guns from my cold dead fingers” kind of guy. But I also am a fanatic when firearm safety is being ignored. I do have some modest experience with guns. I am an NRA certified firearms instructor, a Massachusetts State Police certified firearms instructor, an NRA certified range safety officer, an NRA life member, and a veteran of combat.

    I teach the classes that are required in the People’s Democratic Pinko Commonwealth of Messytwoshits before a person is allowed to apply for a concealed carry permit. If Rep. Norman had pulled his stunt in one of my classes, I would have tossed him out so fast he would not have felt his feet leaving the ground before he felt his butt hit the street.

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    • Good points you make, we all know how important firearm safety is. It is EXTREMELY important.

      Yet I must point out no where does it state Rep. Norman put his finger on the trigger.

      STILL, it was not a cool move…

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    • FWIW: Facebook posting from Rep. Norman:

      “I am a licensed Concealed Weapon Permit holder and a strong believer in the Second Amendment. As such, during our discussion, I safely placed my gun on the table, pointed away from people, and made the point: “Guns don’t shoot people. People use guns to shoot people. I am tired of blame being placed on the police, NRA, and guns themselves.”

      “At no point did anyone at our meeting say they were threatened, nor did anyone leave early. In fact, we continued with our discussion, laughed, smiled, shook hands and snapped pictures together.”

      Posted by Ralph Norman for Congress on Saturday, April 7, 2018

      If you are comfortable around guns and your control of them, this “stunt” might work for you. For me, it wouldn’t. I would NEVER place a loaded gun around a table of unknowns. Holstered? For sure. But that’s just me.

      Again, I’m cool with his message, just not his delivery…

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  11. Oh, I forgot to mention, I have been a gun owner for sixty years. I carry wherever I go. But I carry concealed. When I was a kid going rabbit and squirrel hunting by myself, no one in the neighborhood thought anything about it. Everybody had a gun and no one feared that I or anyone else would use it irresponsibly. Those days are long gone.

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    • YEP, those days are long gone, a very good reason why we HAVE to defend the right to bear arms, THE SECOND AMEDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION.

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    • Same here Grif, we grew up in a totally different culture. I brought my Grandfather’s M1 and Army Hat to School on the School Bus for show and tell in 4th Grade. My State is Open and Conceal Carry.

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  12. I agree.

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  13. So Lori Carter wants to cry. Boohoo. Since when is a NC citizen a constituent of a SC Congressman? SC hotheads are the ones who started the Civil War. No surprise Rep. Norman decided to let the leftist wet their pants.
    To Grif’s point the article does not say Norman had his finger on the trigger. A gun sitting on a table is not pointed and an unloaded gun will not stop a killer. Many assassination victims may have lived had they been armed with a loaded weapon. I believe Huey Long and Bobby Kennedy were killed by their body guards. A gun is a tool and sometimes no other tool will do. If I were a politician I would want one too.

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  14. Well, you know left/libtards…

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  15. Knowing how unhinged most dems are, perhaps not the best move, but then again, sometimes they only understand visuals.

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  16. Norman proved his point in a highly theatrical way, but I am assuming had anyone tried to make a grab for that gun, he would have pounced. Carter is the stereotypical looney, lugubrious, leary, leftist liberal lemming of doom: She presumes to read Norman’s motives, yet she would become indignant if anyone did the same to her!
    Norman is right, Of Course: Guns ARE NOT the problem. LOONEY, LUGUBRIOUS, LEARY, LEFIST LIBERAL LEMMINGS OF DOOM ARE THE PROBLEM!!!

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  17. Some posts yesterday relating to my comments viz. Rep. Norman’s handling of a firearm at his meeting with constituents, made the point that the original story did not say he had his finger on the trigger. This is absolutely correct. However, neither did I. What I wrote was that he violated at least two of the rules for safe firearms handing and “possibly” a third. My justification for this comment lies in the fact that if he was carrying at the time, he would have had to take his firearm out of a holster. Acquiring a grip places the index finger in line with the barrel beneath the cylinder of his revolver. This puts his trigger finger above the trigger if he is handling the firearm properly, and on the trigger if he is not. That’s why I used the term “possibly.”

    I attempted to respond yesterday (Sunday) to those who questioned my “finger on the trigger” comment. For some reason my response didn’t post. Sorry for the delay. Thanks to all who commented.

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    • “I attempted to respond yesterday (Sunday) to those who questioned my “finger on the trigger” comment. For some reason my response didn’t post.”

      Sometimes, WordPress dumps a legit comment into Spam. I try to scroll through Spam comments to retrieve the legit ones, but I don’t do it all the time, for lack of time & energy.

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