Pennsylvania school wants to arm students with rocks to protect them against active shooters

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From Fox News: Schools nationwide are debating President Trump’s call to arm teachers and security guards with guns – while one Pennsylvania school is getting attention for its last line of defense.

Blue Mountain School District Superintendent David Helsel made headlines recently after testifying to lawmakers at the state capitol that his students could be armed with rocks in case of an active shooter lockdown.

“Every classroom has been equipped with a five-gallon bucket of river stone,” Helsel told lawmakers. “If an armed intruder attempts to gain entrance into any of our classrooms, they will face a classroom full students armed with rocks and they will be stoned.”

The superintendent told Fox News on Friday he was surprised by the added media attention for something he calls a “last resort.” He said he has received positive support from parents in the community.

Helsel said the school district has a series of safety measures already installed, including cameras and new security locks on classroom doors, as well as armed security and training for staff and students in a program called ALICE, which stands for Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, Evacuate.

But if an unarmed teacher decides to lockdown a classroom, instead of being passive as they had been trained to do in the past, Helsel said his kids will be empowered to defend themselves.

“Obviously a rock against a gun isn’t a fair fight, but it’s better than nothing,” he said, adding, “I’m not sure why some people feel that it’s more appropriate to be a stationary target under a desk in a classroom rather than be empowered to defend yourself and provide a response to deter the entry of an armed intruder into their classroom.”

Helsel said another district had recommended using golf balls, but he didn’t like that idea because they would bounce around whereas the rocks are shaped in a way to hit and fall after being thrown.

The plan has received mixed reactions from the community.

A senior at Blue Mountain High School supports the idea. “It matters because it will help protect the schools, anything helps, rocks are better than books and pencils,” he told WNEP.

“At this point, we have to get creative,” one parent said. “We have to protect our kids first and foremost. Throwing rocks? It’s an option.”

But not everyone thinks it’s a good idea. “It’s absurd,” another parent said. “Arm the teachers.”

Helsel said, while the teachers are not armed, the district is looking for volunteers at the school on maintenance staff to be properly trained and armed, adding that he hopes they never have to use any of the safety measures.


56 responses to “Pennsylvania school wants to arm students with rocks to protect them against active shooters

  1. wow…simply, wow.

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  2. “another district had recommended using golf balls”

    “Helsel said, while the teachers are not armed, the district is looking for volunteers at the school on maintenance staff to be properly trained and armed”

    At least he’s open to the school being defended with firearms.

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    • Why not bowling balls?

      (Actually billiard balls would probably be the most lethal and accurate, short of heavy steel ball bearings.) The ricochets should generate some pretty good lawsuits, not to mention kids being kids and throwing stuff. In the old days it was erasers. Who seriously thinks you can put a bucket of “throwing stones” (what a concept) in a room and kids won’t throw them anyway. ESPECIALLY in some district where throwing rocks at businesses & cops is considered normal. What a cluster.

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  3. Well, as long as we’re approaching joke level, I imagine students could pelt any shooter with rotten eggs. Or perhaps an Alec Baldwin impersonation impersonating Donald Trump!
    I remember what Jimmy Durante used to say: “Everyone wants to get in on the act!”

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  4. Why not flowers? Didn’t that disarm soldiers back in the ’60s?

    BTW, has anybody here thrown a rock at a hornet’s nest before? What was the response? A flamethrower is a much better solution if your goal isn’t to merely antagonize the hornets…

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  5. Maybe they should arm students M-4s to protect them from Marxist teachers. (~sarc)

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  6. Rock around the clock at the school yard!

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    • I can just imagine all the problems classes will have when you have a bucket of rocks and young boys itchin to throw one….boys will be boys!

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      • DCG . . . . You are right on target with that comment. Those “young boys” will be in a state of distraction over having that bucket of rocks in the room, and not being able to “try them out.” I am sorry, but this is a lame idea.

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      • The “boys” will be boys and the “girls” will be girls, puberty reigns. When the commotion of these marches subsides and the youngster get tired and go home it will be over, and the left will find a new cause to agitate the masses, hope is not the elderly because iwe all know is bullshit.

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    • well Bob Dylan sang, “everybody must get stoned”

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  7. Which people does Dr Helsel have in mind, who claim it’s “more appropriate to be a stationary target under a desk in a classroom”? I wonder if he was briefed by FBI operatives on the confiscation psy op and its collateral objective of inducing fear and submission in the next generation of school children.

    I doubt he was briefed personally, but his reference to hiding under desks harkens back to the early 1950s’ air raid drills, wiith air raid sirens blaring and school children rushing to hide under their desks with their hands over their heads, as if any of it would do any good in a nuke attack. The purpose was not at all to protect America’s children, but to positively terrorize them and to implant through emotional overload their reflexive recourse to government in an emergency. The impression on me was strong enough that I can still recall the morbid, deafening wail of the air raid sirens and the well-intentioned nuns dutifully ordering us, psychologically speaking, to helplessly cringe in fear under a desk, which even we kindergarteners realized offered no protection whatsoever. A pail of rocks anyone?

    I bring this connection up since the odd reference suggests someone’s been studying historical methods for effectively terrorizing school children, which if true, implies that all these school shootings, real casualties or not, are part of more than a gun grab, and intended to induce instinctive, hysterical fear of guns with a simultaneously induced reflexive trust in Big Brother, with its concomitant recourse to the deader-than-dead language of helpless servitude. Our “first responders” are all “ heroes in uniform,” putting their lives “in harm’s way” to “serve and protect.” If that language makes you feel safer and not grossly insulted for its imputation of helplessness, go hide under the table when your front door gets kicked in, but don’t hold your breath waiting for “boots on the ground.”


    • Dan . . . . I am very happy that you spoke out on the “air raid drills.” We had one of those monstrous air raid sirens about two blocks from our grade school. Every Monday at 12:00 noon, that thing would go off. I remember the teachers ushering us down into the basement restrooms, where we all lined up against the wall. When the wall space was completely full, the next bunch of students lined up directly behind those who were next to the wall–we were to put our arms up and over our heads and lean into either the wall, or the person directly in front of us. We the young people of the 1950’s had to have been psychologically affected by these drills. I guess today’s children are being psychologically affected by school shootings.

      You are correct in your assessment of training children to have an abnormal fear of guns, and to consequently look to “Big Brother” to save them.

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      • Eh, the training wasn’t all bad. People get killed by bombs from shrapnel, particularly flying glass all the time. The blast wave from a nuke extends far beyond the fireball and highest radiation concentration. People survived Hiroshima & Nagasaki in less sturdy buildings if they happened to be away from the center of the blast, windows and propelled objects.

        Beats standing outside and staring at the mushroom cloud…

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        • No argument that old time air raid drills had some rationale, and I’m sure you get my point. Today’s mentally unbalanced, ranting calls for the government to “do something” will in all likelihood result in remedies as effective as our border protection, in which the perps simply come in another way.

          As if the entrenched communist apparatchiks who are this federal gov, or the Hollywood tribe behind these marches, care about school children in Pennsylvania or Florida!

          America’s becoming a sick joke on the world’s stage, like the Stockholm Syndrome gone viral, in which the abused victims defend and seek the protection of their tormentors, not least caused by the constant fear mongering on “conservative” Fox News.

          The official AR narrative, in any case, is way too pat and obviously scripted for immediate media release to be believed. The presumption after any of these events in the face of such bad theater and the absurd implausibility of the scenarios should be that it’s all bullsh*t unless subsequent evidence proves it otherwise.

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    • Yes, certainly. It’s “Gladio Training”. First they want an indistinct, generalized fear. Then they particularize it in certain ways. A recent meme that accompanies this is the “only people with patches on their shoulders” should be armed. This, of course, meaning cops.

      So, when the background fear gets too high, the cattle’s first response should be something like a chicken with its head on a chopping block. Resignation.

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  8. Open carry, that will scare them.


  9. Following both publications only on the internet, “Vanity Fair” spent time on Parkland publicity crew, Vanity Fair Cocktail Hour, March 23, 2018, “The #Never Again Communications Workshop.” “David Cullen goes inside the content-making studio that Parkland shooting survivors are using to bring their message to the masses.” The Harvard Crimson the by The Crimson Editorial Board, March 7, 2018. “Necessary Push For Research on Gun Violence,” Isabelle Robinson. Right, more research, etc., would have prevented Oswald and Sirhan from killing graduates JFK a nd RFK. The Med School also backed restrictions. Fortunately, not all readers agreed.

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    • Need I say more?

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        • Say, we ran out of toilet paper!!!,

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        • I doubt those entitled brats can even read cursive, and they damn sure did not read the Constitution and do not have a clue what laws are already set in place, the eye roll on this whole childrens playacting has me taking Excederin daily….
          I told my kid I do forbid you to leave class and participate in this walkout, unless you can form your own opinion after reading the Constution and what our gun laws are in 3 days time and she laughed and said yeah, nah! She hasn’t been taught cursive in school except her name, which she never has to put on any of her typed up papers, but all my kids can read it because I refuse to write my lists and notes any other way

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  10. The Domestic Enemy now has full manipulative Control of the Minds of Our Children from K thru 12 & on thru 16.. = with the Full exploytive backing of the Socialist- Commie Media TV.. You want Your Children back,??? Your’re gonna need to do Home Schooling or a carefully selected Private School.. I’ve had Public School teachers tell me that they rather put their own children into Private Schooling to avoid exposing them to what they are “required” to teach the “publically schooled children.” After 8yrs Govn’t Grade School – & – 4yrs. Govn’t High School – how many of you Parents can honestly say that your children are still “Your Children..??”

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  11. Yep! Another demented turd… Alice in Hellland will help. Pink flamingoes, white unicorns and what not! The Mad Hatter strikes again!

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  12. Just wait. In 6 months, if no one attacks the school, they will declare this a massive success.

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  13. maybe they can sit down with shooters and sing Koom-ba-ya

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    • Well they could organize and train to stand up and dial 911 in the event of a shooting while everyone else escapes. That way they’ll be dead but they won’t have compromised their “principles”.

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  14. It’d be even more one-sided than this:

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  15. Job 41:28 –
    “The arrow cannot make him flee; Slingstones are turned into stubble for him.”

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  16. Add shovels & pitchforks & call it, “How Future Farmers of America deal with school shooters.”

    Shovels = Shields.
    Pitchforks = Multi-pronged Javelins.
    _Much practice required in advance. Make sure they use a stuffed dummy & not fellow students as target practice. (lol).

    My first thought re rocks & group stoning was that Helsel must be thinking in Old Testament terms. If so, he forgot the bucket of sling-shots next to the bucket of rocks, & training therewith to take down a shooter via one soft spot in shooter’s/shooters’ forehead(s).

    A quick bing search showed one result that said the surname Helsel means “a maker of helmets.” Goliath’s helmet did not fully cover his forehead. Hardeeharhar. 😀

    Seriously, I really liked the brief “open carry” comment, above!

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    • To take TPR’s comment to another level:

      Is the school district going to provide slingshots? What about wrist-rockets?

      Here’s an idea!

      For gym class, cut out a sport that costs the school district $$$$$$$, and replace it with slingshot/wrist-rocket training. In the 3-4 weeks dedicated to training, the students can become most proficient at hurling stones.

      Will students be required to carry a slingshot/wrist-rocket on them at all times like a student ID? Will they be mandated to be issued one like some school district mandate the purchase/lease of an iPad or other tablet?

      And what will the practice targets consist of? Cardboard cutouts of young white males (because any other race and/or gender would be unacceptable)? What about tackling dummies the football players aren’t using in the off-season?

      Sorry for opening up a can of worms – lol!

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      • Forgot to add this: Students cannot not opt out of this class without taking an F for the semester.

        In fact, let’s make it a requirement to graduate! And also a requirement to complete the training before being allowed to go to prom.

        If they want to preach “diversh*tty” & mandatory accepting tolerance, then there shouldn’t be a problem in teaching students to protect themselves from “bullies” with guns.

        After all, “it’s for the children”, right?

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  17. To protect fellow students, maybe now at least one boy per classroom will be trained to use his forefinger by holding it as a gun barrel and pointing it at any gun bearing threat. Okay, to be serious, a major cause for whatever took place was the deliberate failure of local authorities to disarm Cruz when it was so easy to do and he was so readily seen as a threat to himself or others. I am here working under the assumption that he actually did own a firearm. That is an assumption worth examining.

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  18. Reblogged this on On the Patio and commented:

    Not at all sure this is an appropriate solution. You be the judge.

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  19. Typical liberal “solution.”

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  20. Well they could use crossbows. They are single-shot but pretty effective. All of this distraction makes my blood boil. What utter bunk.

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