Pennsylvania family ordered to take down offensive Jesus Christmas display

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Tolerance is only a one-way street for some people.

From Fox News: A Pennsylvania family was ordered by their homeowner’s association to take down their Jesus Christmas display after one of the neighbors reported it as offensive.

Mark and Lynn Wivell of Adams County, a Gettysburg subdivision, said they put up their Jesus display last Saturday, FOX43 reported.

“As part of our Christmas decoration, we would display the name Jesus to point out to everyone that we in this family believe that the reason for the season is to celebrate the birth of Jesus,” said Mark Wivell told FOX43.

But the homeowner’s association wasn’t having it. On Sunday, the association told the family to take down the sign after a neighbor complained it was offensive. The homeowner’s association also claimed the display was a sign, not a decoration – which is a violation of the rules, USA Today reported.

“After taking a look at it, it isn’t in accordance with normal Christmas decorations,” Bud Vance, the Courtyards president, wrote in a statement to the Gettysburg Times.

The Wivells insist they are following the rules.”We have ordinances with regard to Christmas decorations, and my Christmas decorations comply with the HOA ordinances on Christmas decorations,” Wivell said.

The Wivells also said many others supported their right to display the sign. “When this happened, we were really shocked,” Lynn Wivell said. “We have gotten tremendous support from our neighbors here at the Links and that just makes us feel so good.”

The family said they have no plans to take down the sign until January 15, when the association requires all displays to be taken down. Family members said they are unsure which neighbor was offended.

“People get offended by different things, but just because something offends you, doesn’t mean the whole world has to change to accommodate you, so I would say please be more tolerant,” Mark Wivell said.

Board members told FOX43 in a statement that it was “unfortunate” they were being portrayed as Scrooge. “It is, indeed, unfortunate that our attention has been unnecessarily redirected in this manner with a suggestion that Scrooge is alive and well in our community,” the statement read. “Many of our families will be in church on Monday with their spirit diminished by this attack.”

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39 responses to “Pennsylvania family ordered to take down offensive Jesus Christmas display

  1. Ok, if Jesus is offensive, how about “ EMMANUEL”.

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  2. How about.. you being offended offends me? Huh? Well? Does my being offended count for anything? Guess tolerance is truly a one way street with these lefties.

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    • DITTO, phoenix…I’ve written and pondered this many times. Do MY feelings count? Do my sensibilites about my country, our merchantile system count? EVEN if I’m “white bread” descended from white Europeans & Nordics of various countries—from the late 1600′ onward? Does it have ANYTHING to do with my color, race, religiousity….or JUST plain capitalism (which can be attacked by those of color, race, religiousity in this country quite often……..). Does the fact that I live now in CA negate my feelings toward what happened in Gettysburg, PA….even tho’ I have an ancestral and GUT connection/familial tie to PA & the Battle of Gettysburg? Does it ‘count” that I am really OFFENDED by a lot that goes on today, like the Kaepernick specticle…ad nauseum….b/c my PA ancestors gave their LIVES so that they could play football for millions of dollars as a FREE Black man??Right about now, the “trade” doesn’t seem so filled with honor….and the recipients don’t seem so grateful…..PLEASE KAEPERNICK….ask me about what happened to my 56th PA Regt. Civll War Volunteer and the generations that came after him EVEN UP TO ME…b/c of his willingness to give his LIFE FOR YOU.

      Here’s more of my story….my father was a Penn State BS and later Johns Hopkins MBA agricultural economist…and from WAY back in the 60’s and 70’s when I was a kid, I traveled the farmlands w/him in the summer, helped w/his filing system summers from age 11-12-on…..he told me about the “Hispanic workers” who were imported into Adams Co, PA to pick in the apple orchards there (this expanded in the 70’s and beyond to the peach, apple, and other orchards in neighoring MD—which harvested MORE peaches than the “peach state” of GA!) As time went on…this bucolic area of our country became so internationalized, opposed to the rural roots fo PA and Western MD….that……THEN…..we arrived upon today’s “politically correct” situation—-to where , even on some of the MOST SACRED GROUND TO BE FOUND IN THE USA—the GROUND WHERE THE FATE/BALANcE OF the USA WAS HELD IN LIVES SACRIFICED over 3 days (including one of my OWN ancestors, whose name is engraved on the PA monument there)….we are literally held “hostage” to foregin workers, legal or ilegal….and to the likes of this INANE homeowner’s assn….who has lost all sense of direction so far as “Americanism” counts…and, on some of the most SACRED ground America to be found……SHAME!

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      • CalGirl… for any of the lefty snowflakes to show any appreciation or gratitude, it would require that they know something of America’s history and heritage and that ‘ain’t’ gonna happen since American history and civics are two subjects that aren’t taught anywhere in the US any longer.

        Ahhhh…. I just remembered. Aren’t those who apply for US citizenship (doing it the right way) required to know about our form of government and how this nation was established and founded? That might explain how so many of the legal immigrants in this country seem to have a more profound sense of the USA than most who have been born here and ….. they don’t take our freedoms for granted. Most snowflakes can’t even tell you about our freedoms and how they are endangering them.

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  3. To “Liberals” = (a complete mis-nomore) = It’s the Whole Idea of a Supreme God-Being operating above their own concept of Total Human Power over humans.. Wasn’t it Obamma who stated that: “You Christians believe that Your God operates in the Life & Death matters of your lives,” = “Well, – We (the One’s You’ve Been Waiting For) fully intend to agressively assist your God in these matters of Your Life & Death.. Another Democrat Politician insisted that Old People have a Patriotic Duty to voluntarily End their Lives once their usefulness to the Greater Society has ended.. Democrats would have easily made the Ranks of Hitler’s SS Black-Jack-Booted Thugs..

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  4. Seems Jesus Christ defines offensive as white defines racists.

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  5. I hope the Pharasees that attend church this Christmas season don’t have their spirits diminished too much. I have said it before, Christmas is not my favorite Christian celebration. Simply because of this kind of thing, plus of course the commercialism. I would leave that decoration up and see just how serious the HOA was about forcing me to take it down. Because if they don’t like the bad publicity of what is happening now, wait until they try to force the family to sell their house or something because of it. I can just imagine the law firms wishing to defend this in court.

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    • I am glad to have never lived in a neighborhood where there is an HOA… I don’t get how they have been tolerated. They are an affront to property owners, and should be done away with.
      On a side note, Christmas is not actually a Christian holiday, but pagan. Almost all (if not all) aspects of it originate from pagans. Same with nearly all other holidays that are celebrated. The only one I, myself, recognize is thanksgiving. Call me a humbug if you will, but once you learn the truth of things, it requires change, so years ago I abandoned those things.

      Jeremiah 10:2-4
      2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
      3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
      4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

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      • The piece of decoration with the word JESUS on it doesn’t look like a tree to me,,,,,,, jus sayin

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      • Y, the Bible is very clear on the festivals to be celebrated. Also very clear on when the Sabbath is. For some reason, the predominant religions in th US just can’t be bothered to read the Bible.

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        • The Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) was for Ancient Israel only, a part of the Law of Moses. Christians in this age of Grace are not obligated to “keep the Sabbath.”

          Even in the days of the Apostle Paul, Gentile converts were NEVER obligated to keep the Sabbath; & now NO ONE is. God is progressive, not regressive. Follow the Apostle Paul’s ministry from beginning to end. It CHANGES over time according to the revelations God game him. Keeping of “days, months, times, years” was seen as a NEGATIVE, not a positive:

          –“But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage [to the Law of Moses]? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.” (Galatians 4:9-11).

          “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.” (Colossians 2:16-17)

          ~~~

          As for the HOA, good for the Wivell family for sticking to their position. I suppose if the JESUS “sign” had some Christmas lights on it, the HOA would not have pulled such a “technicality” stunt. As for the insufferable buffoon neighbor who complained, gaaah! Sigh, Groan!

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      • “Christmas is not actually a Christian holiday, but pagan. Almost all (if not all) aspects of it originate from pagans. Same with nearly all other holidays that are celebrated.”

        That is true. I learned all that in the late 1970s so have not done Christmas/Easter since then. It’s really no great loss but a big load off one’s shoulders. However, unlike my younger years, I no longer care if other people want to do holidays. Each to his own.

        Here’s another kicker for you, which I learned this maybe within the past 20 years, I think originally from a PBS documentary that was entitled something like “Jews in America” or some such:

        “As Michael Feinstein recently reminded us in the New York Times, Jews wrote lots—most—of the great American Christmas songs”:

        “David Lehman’s Top 10 Christmas Songs Written by Jews”:
        http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/22910/have-yourself-a-jewish-little-christmas

        And, no, those composers were not Jewish-converts-to-Christianity.

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  6. To me this seems like a great big assault on the First Amendment of Our Constitution. Those who are so easily offended, just need to put on blinders, or keep their butts inside until the Christmas Season is over. It is ludicrous that Christians be forced to take down their expressions of honoring the birth of the Savior of the World, because some nitwit is “offended.” The Constitution does not enumerate the case for “being offended.”

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    • The first amendment of the constitution applies to the government, not to HOA’s. If you enter into an agreement with an HOA, the can try to tell you what you can do and say. But there are some protected categories, against which even they cannot discriminate against. Such as Gays, Liberals, etc. Normal, decent, Christian people, it seems, are fair game for any and all slings and arrows.

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      • It helps to get on the association board yet most don’t like to because of neighborhood politics. But if you don’t like the rules you have to get involved to change them.

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  7. Oh, so someone is offended, are they? Yeah. I can just hazard a guess as to which religion they belong to. The proper response from the Wivell’s would have been to tell the little ACLU wannabes to go straight to hell!
    I AM NOT ashamed of Jesus. I am ashamed of myself—as every sinner should be.
    That’s O.K., though. When Christ does return in Glory to Judge the Living and the Dead, these little atheist snivelers aren’t gonna know which way to run!

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  8. “People get offended by different things, but just because something offends you, doesn’t mean the whole world has to change to accommodate you, so I would say please be more tolerant,”
    THIS is the message we need to lead with EVERY time some snowflake comes unhinged over some innocuous comment or sign or cartoon or ornament or whatever ELSE trips their OFFENDED trigger. This is the REAL world-they won’t survive if they’re THIS easily DAMAGED by stuff OFFENDING them. THEY make me SICK. I’m declaring WAR on EASILY OFFENDED SNOWFLAKES. If I do something that causes YOU to be offended,keep it to yourself or learn to GET OVER IT. Know that YOU offend ME. Tell me I did something that offends you,I’ll gladly do it TWICE as much. This is for your OWN GOOD. I’m sure I’m well backed up in saying that you DON’T live a long and healthy life by working yourself into an ulcer over everything that OFFENDS YOU. You need to realize what is at the beginning of this rant. Just because YOU get offended doesn’t mean the World needs to change its ways to please YOU. THAT’S where the phrase “Get over it.” comes in. Hey-Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS,okay?

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    • Pretty much my thoughts as well.
      I might tell them “I’m not trying to offend you; I’m celebrating my diversity”. Which is exactly what they would say if the tables were turned.
      What offended me today was a T.V. station putting up a quick ad during a show break which said, “Merry christmas!” So they capitalized “merry” for some reason, but then intentionally didn’t capitalize Christmas to show their disdain for the fact it’s celebrating Christ’s Mass. Just another commercial holiday to get off school & work, and to buy lots of useless stuff for others.

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      • “I’m not trying to offend you; I’m celebrating my diversity.”

        Ha! Excellent idea! That’s a keeper!

        I would want to add at the end: “Are you attempting to infringe upon my right to be DIVERSE?” :D:D:D:D

        Yes, throw their LINGO right back at them.

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  10. Tells ME they’re putting that up because they HAVE to,not because they CHOOSE to.

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  11. Strongly encourage everyone to read the last two posts from Henry Makows site about Christmas being destroyed as a religious holiday. Enlightenment is a bitch. But everyone who comes here regularly already knows that. “Greater is HE who is in me than he who is in the workd.” MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!!

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  12. That neighbor should just quietly hate Jesus while minding his own buisness.

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  13. Stoooopid sh1t like this… “take your Jesus sign down because blankensteins booty is hurt”…. just makes ione want to cheer on Russia and North Korea!!!

    A lil “Satan 2” over the NAZI Associations Housing Authority… might make them rethink their priorities!!!

    But thanks to these totally WORTHLESS FOLKS (Think Tanks, Housing Authorities et al)… some of us have been brought to understand now EXACTLY WHY GOD ALMIGHTY HAS NATIONS/STATES/EMPIRES and HOUSING AUTHORITIES REMOVED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY THE LIKES OF THE ASSYRIANS and/or BABYLONIANS!!!!

    Merry Christmas HOA…. might your own HOUSES BURN TO THE GROUND!!! Then you’ll have something truly worth while to concern yourselves with…. rebuiding/finding some other place to live!!!

    Thank you JESUS for this BEAUTIFUL DAY and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL “JESUS SIGN” FOLKS!!!!

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  14. P.S….

    I’m OFFENDED by the RANCID/FOUL ODOR permeating the air around most DEMOCRATS/LIBTARDS….

    They need to MOVE OUT OF the country… go fowl the air and b1tch about signs somewhere else!!!

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  15. Just call the homeowners association what they are: Anti-Christian Satan Worshipping Luciferians & watch their reaction. Phuk the HOA NAZIs.

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  16. You can’t join an HOA if you want freedom that is not what they are all about.

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  17. Avoid HOA’s like the plague.

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  18. And yet again, the masses are ruled by the minority. I would let them take me to court and by the time the court date arrives, Christmas is over.
    Come on people, push back.

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  19. this is life under jewish rule and I am glad it happened to christians being if they are evean-genitals waiting to be ruptured they worship Israel

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  20. FK the “home owners assn”….

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  21. Doesn’t look particularly offensive to me. But I don’t understand why the family wants to advertise their beliefs to the world. No-one else wants to know or needs to know.

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  22. These would-be commies LIKE getting “permission”. I would neither ask, nor would I comply. If they don’t like it, don’t look at it. If some clown showed up at my door complaining about something like this I’d still be chasing them down the street.

    Sorry bastards want to control EVERYTHING!

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  23. Here’s a little history for the “sensitive”, and politically correct. Please take the time to read the “history” (if you can call it that) of this new identity icon.

    http://rense.com/general96/kwanzaa.html

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