Is this a second shooter of Las Vegas massacre?

FOTM reader Marcella alerts us to an intriguing video taken in the panic-stricken crowd of the Las Vegas country-music concert during the mass shooting on the night of October 1, 2017.

As two women flee from left to right, pay attention to the lower left of the video where a man, wearing what appears to be a yellow security-guard vest, raises his hands that seem to be clasping a gun, crouches down and points (fires?) at the crowd.

Here’s the video:

Here’s a GIF I had made of the “second shooter”:

Here are sequential screenshots I took of the shooter:

If the man is a legitimate security guard, why would he point his gun at the fleeing crowd?

What do you think?

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64 responses to “Is this a second shooter of Las Vegas massacre?

  1. There is a very good, comprehensive assessment of the details of this event written by a great researcher, Mike Adams. It points out some very pertinent facts that nobody has written about.

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  2. We are in the fight of our lives here, and I have done everything I could to get my passengers to wake up. To wake up what has been done to us by 9/11, Obama, Obamacare, George W. Bush, you name it. But over 90% just “can’t handle the truth”—they have too much cognitive dissonance, which this false flag event was designed to create.
    People have to wake up to the truth that Government IS. NOT. YOUR. FRIEND. Government is not eloquence, said George Washington. It is not moral truth or certitude. Government is FORCE. And Government DEMANDS a Monopoly on Violence!

    Even George Carlin couldn’t wake people up!

    It seems to me that government and media must have a certain amount of “formulas” designed to keep derailing the public. Little Jimmy Kimmel is the latest moron du jour, with his unmanly crying over the lack of government-paid healthcare for his newborn baby son. Just the latest, after all the verbal diarrhea that has poured forth from Stephen (Alleged “human being” Colbert!) So now we have the talk show hosts (wannabes!) to take the place of the analysts of the news media, since the MSM has lost all credibility. Yeah. That’ll do it. And it will—there are enough morons in their 20’s to go along. I mean, it’s not like they’ve all devolved into DELTA MALES already now, is it?
    Now GO, Colbert, Fallon and Kimmel! GO and worship at the Temple of Joe Biden! Leave your brains at the door!

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    • P.S.:
      Once again, I am absolutely convinced that at least one intelligence agency or its deputy had to have been behind this false flag event. Which is it—the CIA? The Mossad? Or did they farm the job out to Blackwater or Halliburton? Hopefully, time will tell.

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      • Kevin J Lankford

        It has long been my understanding that i.s.i.s., and al-qaeda, both, were created by the c.i.a..

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        • C-span interview with Dan Raviv and Yossi Melman who had authored “Every Spy A Prince – The Complete History of Israel’s Intelligence Community” (1990)

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          • Saying Israel and CIA is repeating ones self. They own every political parasite. I enjoy speculating on the particulars. Of course, one only has to realize that people just don’t get up one morning, load up and arsenal, and head to the concert for a little full-auto target practice. They especially don’t do that in the certain hope of accidentally hooking up with like-minded shooters out for a little target practice themselves.

            In other words, this was planned. I posted the drill announcement. There are other references to this being made weeks earlier. You have the pat narrative almost immediately. They have more evidence on Clinton than they had on O.J. and look how long (never) to indict.

            How do they “know” these things about the patsy? How did they know them about the BMB brothers? The Aurora shooter? “Adam Lanza”?

            One has to totally surrender all logic and sense to “believe” the MSM. Back in the “Good Ol Days” people didn’t believe everything they heard or read in the news either. That aside, it was much more believable than these psyop productions.

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      • I agree. The official narrative is so predictably absurd in almost every particular that only a (likely foreign) state-sponsored clandestine operation with a high degree of immunity/freedom of action could have set it up, pulled it off, and controlled the narrative from the get go.

        I see some speculation about occult symbolism but nothing yet about the grinning mockery of taking out so many proxies of Trump’s “deplorables” and “sending a message” right under the nose of the police in Nevada.

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      • They ALL work for the same boss. It doesn’t matter if they call themselves “OU812”, its just a matter of what slave group pays their salaries.

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  3. He’s crouching with his piece out, looking for a shooter at the venue… not realizing it’s a guy 1,000 feet away with a rifle yet. (Definitely with his safety off… I hope he didn’t get a round off before you see him pulling back (after the guy with cowboy hat) with “Oh sh*t!” body language.

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    • Lol yeah that explains the muzzle blast lighting up the crowd in front of him as well as the perfectly timed gunshots heard! Also, the people nearby the shooter in the vid didn’t try to get away from the guy shooting or anything! You’re a genius!

      Seriously, if you’ve ever fired a m4 or other 5.56mm carbine in a darkened area you know it throws a blue/white fireball out a few feet that lights up everything around you, full auto or bumping (using a bump stock) just makes for more light and noise.

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      • If that’s muzzle blast, he’s shooting at the ground near people’s feet… taclight on his weapon would look just like that, too.

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        • Yeah, I know, some gun could dress up like security with an AR-15 and shoot people (it’s definitely feasible) but the lamest explanation (tacticool security dude realizes he’s overwhelmed) is probably it.

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  4. Reblogged this on kommonsentsjane and commented:

    Reblogged on kommonsentsjane/b logkommonsents.

    More information on Las Vegas massacre.


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  5. I saw an article last night, about an Australian man who was staying at the Mandalay Bay Hotel, who claims that a security guard was killed by police. Then an Australian woman, who was staying at the Luxor Hotel and was in the hotel bar on Sunday night, when a man wearing a security jacket got off an escalator from the Mandalay and ran through the bar, being chased by security guards wearing the same kind of jackets. I didn’t pay much attention to the article until I saw this one this morning. Here it is:

    There are so many conflicting stories about this, it’s very difficult to figure out what happened, which is by design. I definitely don’t believe the official story. The video of the cab driver, in my humble opinion, is likely to be one of the most important. What she hears and sees, the real-time info coming from the audio inside her cab, and the strangeness of the people that get in her cab shed valuable light on what was going on at the time.

    Here is a video about the cab driver’s video, that seems to indicate that it was stated three times that the shots were coming from the tenth floor of the hotel.

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  6. There are multiple eye-witness reports of at least one shooter in the crowd. Then there’s the business at Belagio. Who fired into the lobby there? Why were they on lock down?

    I’ve said before, and I’ll say it again, one guy could not inflict that much damage on his own, especially from such a distance.

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    • Sure one could. He shot a lot of bullets at a high rate of fire into a packed crowd that early on didn’t know what was going on. Logic says given the amount of bullets and how many people were packed in there that he’d hit a lot of people. They said the attendance was what, 22000 people? Not hard to do some damage when you have that many people you’re aiming at and 1200 feet away isn’t a far enough distance.

      Remember that just because hundreds of people got injured doesn’t mean they all had serious injuries. It also doesn’t mean every single person got hit with their very own bullet. Some bullets surely bounced off the ground and other items and some bullets surely hit multiple people.

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  7. I’d imagine if that was a/the second shooter that people in the area would have mentioned it by now. Also, if he just had a handgun then there’d be audio of that somewhere.

    A somewhat interesting video, especially with the gun fire starting just after he crouches yet I would suggest not looking into something that simply isn’t there. He also seems to flinch and turn away to try and take some cover right after the gun fire starts.

    One of the problems with being skeptical of every news event is people will often over analyze and try and find something they think exists but doesn’t. As an example, the videos that have circulated with the flashing light on the lower floor and people saying that is a gun muzzle. Well, it can’t be a gun muzzle since the light keeps flashing when there is no gun fire and also, how would the person have shot through the window without the window being damaged? The windows don’t open in that hotel and photos and video show no broken window down there. That would then mean someone replaced it and it’s pretty ridiculous to think someone smashed out the window and then replaced it overnight with a zillion cops and other people around.

    If there was a second shooter from the hotel then they had to have either been on the roof or been in the same hotel room which would help explain the two broken windows. Having two broken windows doesn’t make much sense with just a lone gunman. If he did it to have a second gun on the ready then why not have the windows be close together rather than what seems like opposite ends of the hotel room. Either window had a clear view of the concert area so it’s not a vantage point reason.

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    • There is already footage of a second shooter from the fourth floor. There is multiple testimony of shooters in the crowd. I don’t think “over analyzing” an impossibility is unreasonable.

      They are asking us to believe that they are telling the truth. I don’t believe them. Real life is not like this. In a crowd that size I’m amazed that someone didn’t shoot (apparently) back at the crowd shooters. Who knows, maybe they did. My guess is that they were dressed as security and they didn’t get shot because anybody thinking to do that assumed they were the good guys.

      Starting from scratch, with the original story, we’re asked to believe that one senior citizen, multi-millionaire Jimmy Buffet wannabe, jumped the track and carried an arsenal (who knows why) to his room. From there he shot over 200 yards down into a crowd of people who were conveniently corralled into the venue, to devastating effect.

      I would stop right there and say “I don’t believe it”. It isn’t that easy.

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    • “Having two broken windows doesn’t make much sense with just a lone gunman. If he did it to have a second gun on the ready then why not have the windows be close together rather than what seems like opposite ends of the hotel room.”

      Excellent point!


  8. I’d like to see the surveillance footage of paddock allegedly bringing in all the weapons and ammo….where is it?
    where are the videos of people who were in the mandalay bay hotel when all of this was going on?

    from the Cosmopolitan Hotel in 2011:
    “Casino SECURITY VIDEO Of Stephen Paddock Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Hotel Gunman Shooter”

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    • Me too. There is some, no doubt. There is testimony from hotel staff that he entertained guests in his room previously to this who did not notice anything unusual. Where did he put all this alleged hardware?

      On top of that, we’re asked to believe that he kept this up for several minutes and the cops didn’t get there until 70 minutes later? They say he shot himself. They say they shot him. One report says he had escape plans. Another says he left a suicide note.

      This should look VERY familiar to some of us here. Those who are new to this may take a while to adjust. Those of us who have watched this for a while can recognize the symptoms.

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      • yes, it does look very familiar…usual hallmarks….I wonder HOW he committed suicide. if he put the gun in his mouth, there would be brain splatter and I didn’t notice any in the death pic.
        Something else I noticed from the larger death pic, if the cops found him after he committed suicide, why is there a bullet lying on top of blood and other bullets surrounding him on top of blood instead of covered in blood?
        Do you know what type of bullets those are?

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    • Yep!


  9. The venue was a “gun free zone”. No security guards were allowed to have weapons. Michael Savage had a lady phone his show who said that she heard another shooter near her & a lady behind her got shot in the stomach, direct hit. Police scanner radio traffic indicates 3 shooters, gate 7. There are many who said that there were shooters on the ground. This video, to me, is the most intense proof of another shooter.

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  10. Why do I get the feeling that the MSM and the swamp invested government elites want to put a “nothing more to see” picture on this. Like JW Booth shoots Lincoln and that’s the end of the story. The nut case may or may not have acted alone but he inflicted serious damage on mostly conservative God fearing Americans who support our president and like country music. His father was a depressed bank robber and his brother sounds like that hyper buy sell stocks guy. Regardless, he collected guns, modified them, and planned this for a long time. Pray that we get to the bottom and not let this story die.

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  11. Here’s a comment on Jon Rappaport’s blog (

    “There was a story from one eyewitness on You Tube that 2 security guards were seen chasing another security guard on the night of the shootings and that they fired shots at him. One witness reported that the security guard being chased by the other 2 was shot and killed by them. The security guard being chased may have been connected to the shooting at the Bellagio.”

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  12. In the video about another shooter, I saw no flashes or signs of gunfire from the thirty-second floor around the time shots were heard. Sound is so o were than light, of course, hence “around the time.”

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  13. Reblogged this on necltr and commented:

    Where there is no flash, no smoke, there is no fire – thirty-second floor?

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  14. Here’s an interesting comment and video from Let’s Roll Forums:

    “From 2getherwestand:
    Earlier this morning, I came across a tweet which I can’t locate anymore. It named another Stephen C Paddock, who is 44, who has been convicted of several crimes involving lewd acts on a child and child molestation—11/28/01 (South Carolina), 4/06/94 (Indiana), and 11/09/89 (Indiana).

    The tweet included what appeared to be a screen shot of an official law-enforcement document, also indicating that this Stephen Paddock had been confined, at one point, in a South Carolina mental institution.
    A possible criminal background of the shooter Stephen C Paddock.”

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  15. I just learned that Paddock’s room mate, Marilou Danley was an employee of the Mandalay Bay hotel. This might explain how the guns made it into the hotel.

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  16. This guy’s friend was at the concert and felt that shots were being fired from within the concert area itself. See discussion of this at the 03:00 mark of the video.

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    • That’s a nice video. The only negative I’ll say is that I wish people would stop apologizing for disbelief. The default position is not, nor has it ever been, belief.

      They are lying, plain and simple. Beyond that we have speculation as to the how’s and why’s. It certainly looks to me as if there was shooting within the event.

      They have pulled the video that I posted on the attack on the Belagio. Why would they do that? It is what it is. They now totally control what people are allowed to see and hear.

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    • That’s interesting. Here’s one that says largely the same thing with the exception that the back-scatter and other surveillance is already in place.

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      • NBC Today Show (Oct. 5th)
        “In Wake Of Las Vegas Shooting, Hotels Push For Increased Security | TODAY”


        • I have heard, and believe, that you would be hard-pressed to go anywhere else in this country with tighter security. They film everyone. They network to fight against winners.

          All of the rooms are already bugged. I find it more than a little interesting to note that when they stage one of these there is always a dearth of footage even though we all know they have it.

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  17. The guy for sure has a rifle in his hand with blasts coming out. If you watch closely at the end, there is another guy in security vest on right hand side that looks like he is looking at the shooter with a wth look on his face.

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  18. A woman interviewed by Hannity told of a man on the ground. I wonder just how many shooters there truly was. Too many shot and wounded for one shooter, maybe even two shooters.

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  19. Whatever the truth, you can be sure, we will be fed the canned version. Protecting God knows who in the process. The authorities quickly cleared the girlfriend before they even had her here. People have seen to much for it all to be lies. Can we all be crazy? Frankly, I don’t think we have been told 30% of the true story. They think we can’t handle the truth?

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  20. Apparently, there were up to seven shooters, which would explain the cryptic comment by the Hispanic woman 45 minutes before the shooting at the concert that “They’re everywhere”. Here’s a Facebook post from someone who was at another hotel (the Vdara) and a link (while it lasts) to a video that was made at the Bellagio:

    So here goes…. Especially to those of you saying to stop talking about this, stop making assumptions etc.
    Call me crazy, call me dramatic, call me whatever you want. I’m posting this for those of us who were on the strip Sunday night, who know what we saw and what we were told by police officers, security guards, and even the local news when all of this madness started. And I am posting this in hopes of informing others who have believed everything they’ve seen on the news. If while leaving the Cosmopolitan, we had been told there was one shooting at the Mandalay Bay, Anthony and I would have not been worried for our lives and we would have continued to go out, knowing we weren’t headed to that particular area of the strip. But that’s not what we were told. We were told that there were 7 confirmed shooters, and confirmed deaths at multiple hotels. Including Bellagio, the Aria and New York New York. Being told this by a security guard, who then told us to go to the third floor for safety. However, Anthony says, “No Rikki. This is a very popular hotel, I don’t feel like the third floor of this popular hotel in public is the safest place. We’re going to try and get out of here right now.” Running back to our hotel next door, Vdara, we are told once again by police/security checking our id and room key, “yes multiple hotels effected. Go to your room and do not leave.” We then get to the room, immediately turn on the news and start watching out of our windows to figure out what is going on. The news also states, live, that the Bellagio had been effected and there was one confirmed death.
    Now… skip ahead about an hour. The news is no longer stating anything about the other hotels effected. They say it is one person. Every bit of info that was being initially given to us was disappearing. We could physically see from our window view, fire alarms going off at the cosmopolitan, and multiple cop cars and ambulances pulling up there as well. We wanted more information about what was happening at these other hotels right next to us, and we weren’t getting it. And we still aren’t.
    Monday morning I am of course telling my friends and family about our experience, and I was starting to really feel like I was crazy. Everyone was telling me there was only one shooter, and I just couldn’t understand what I had seen. Finally, other people like myself started speaking out. I was relieved to know that I wasn’t crazy, but now just as confused as to why the media is trying to hide this information. There are now videos and statements popping up all over the web, showing proof of other shooters and other effected hotels.
    Why are they trying to hide this?! If for no other reason, think about being a family member of the others who died or were injured at these other hotels. They deserve the respect, and the truth as to what happened to their loved ones.
    Now, can we please stop talking about Gun Control for just a few minutes, and figure out what is really going on here? Figure out the real motive of this incident, and inform people of the truth. Laws can be put in place for anything and everything. There will always be people who break them. And especially with all of the technology we have now days, it is not very hard to find anything you want. Whether it’s an illegal weapon, drugs, anything. Laws will always be broken. So let’s stop pretending this incident wouldn’t have happened if more laws were in place, but instead demand the truth about what really happened that night, and why? Don’t be so naive.

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    • Excellent! Thanks so much for posting this!


    • Confusion is what they’re doing. Just like when the planes hit the WTC towers and people were saying they could hear explosions going off and you can see in the videos the slow motion charges deploying sometimes early. It’s all a false flag to get rid of gun rights and freedoms. The only explanation I can give for the massive amount of accomplices are that they are mind controlled people and are not aware of what is even going on. Read “Thanks for the Memories” by Brice Taylor to get a handle of what is really happening. This also explains why very very few chemtrail pilots mention anything about what they are doing. It’s very deep.
      Great comment about what really happened, I’m not surprised if there were that many people doing the shooting.


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  22. Well, from what I understand of how “security cameras” work these days, and given what I recall hearing about baby monitors etc… is that “hacking” security cams because they’re attached to some manner of wireless garbage is a thing done for fun in the “hackery” community, whether it be “white-hat” penetration testing, or “black hat” malevolence, to that end, I wonder, do all these hotels etc. have cams connected to the internet in some way, and if so do the systems maintain prior footage for X-amount of time in a given archive or hard drive? If so then maybe someone somewhere in the “hackery” community was watching one of those cams and saving the video from it.

    It might also be worth seeing who provided the security for the venue and hotel(s).
    That paddock had a dad who was on the most wanted list tells me that, like the couple who had a son who was being groomed by the FBI to do a “terrorist” thing, if it was true, that paddock was probably an ideal patsy, already having FBI contact. He could be dead, but then that’s assuming he isn’t off sipping a pinya colada in bermuda (or perhaps the philippines?) somewhere with a new face and identity… of course.


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  24. Its a flashlight. Can be seen clearly that its a flashlight.


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