Seattle collected much less than predicted from gun tax

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Shocker, not. Another liberal tax-payer scheme that didn’t work out as planned.

From Seattle’s gun tax brought in much less than expected in its first year. City leaders expected the tax to bring in between $300,000 and $500,000 a year when they approved it. But it brought in just over $100,000 in 2016.

The city had long refused to reveal the dollar amount, citing privacy concerns of people who pay the tax.

“Given the limited number of quarterly returns filed, the City believes releasing any information at this time about the number of filers or amount reported would risk revealing identifying taxpayer information, which is protected from disclosure per Seattle Municipal Code and state law,” the city said in response to a records request.

Earlier this year, the city revealed the tax had brought in less than expected, but would only say it was less than $200,000. The numbers released this week come after a judge ordered the city to release the data following a public records battle with TheGunMag.

A lawsuit challenging the tax failed last week when the state Supreme Court ruled it was legal. In an 8-1 decision, the justices agreed with the city’s argument that the tax is different from a regulation.

“Historically, there has been a difference between regulations as such and taxation,” Attorney Phil Talmadge told KIRO Radio’s Dori Monson. “The Supreme Court has had a protocol for deciding what is a regulatory process, or a fee, and what constitutes a tax. They applied that analysis pretty faithfully in this opinion. Like it or dislike it, that’s the way they’ve done it.”

Seattle passed its gun tax in August 2015. It was aimed at funding gun-violence prevention, research and other programs to mitigate the public costs of gun-related crimes. The effort was spearheaded by Councilmember Tim Burgess. It places a $25 tax on guns sold in Seattle, and up to 5 cents on each round of ammunition.


12 responses to “Seattle collected much less than predicted from gun tax

  1. Quinn’s first law. Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of it’s stated intent.

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    • If you do not believe the statement concerning liberals and their stated intent, start looking government agencies created over the last 100 years and tell me how they have worked out.

      Here are some examples to chew on.

      Department of Education = Kids are dumber than Dirt

      Department of Energy = Created to get us out of OPEC over 30 years ago.
      How’s that working out?

      Since historic sites are in the news lately, how is this government body working out ? Advisory Council on Historic Preservation……………. DUH, not too good.

      The following list contains different government agencies or departments. I would take a guess and say less than 5% are listed or defined in the U.S.
      Constitution, Article 1, Section 8.

      Please take note, these are just the ones which start with the letter A.

      AbilityOne Commission
      Access Board
      Administration for Children and Families (ACF)
      Administration for Community Living
      Administration for Native Americans
      Administration on Aging
      Administration on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities
      Administrative Conference of the United States
      Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts
      Advisory Council on Historic Preservation
      African Development Foundation
      Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ)
      Agency for International Development (USAID)
      Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
      Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS)
      Agricultural Research Service
      Agriculture Department (USDA)
      Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
      Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Bureau (ATF)
      Alhurra TV
      American Battle Monuments Commission
      American Samoa
      Amtrak (AMTRAK)
      Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS)
      Antitrust Division
      Architect of the Capitol
      Archives, National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
      Arctic Research Commission
      Armed Forces Retirement Home
      Arms Control and International Security
      Army Corps of Engineers
      Arthritis, Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases, National Institute of

      I would suggest 95% are unconstitutional.

      The only thing the federal government is ALLOWED to do can be found in Article 1, Section 8.

      Section 8 – The Text
      The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

      To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

      To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian Tribes;

      To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

      To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

      To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

      To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

      To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

      To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

      To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

      To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

      To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

      To provide and maintain a Navy;

      To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

      To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

      To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

      To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; —And

      To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


      OK, let the flame wars begin. I’m wearing my fire retardant underwear.


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  2. Captain Obvious

    Maybe gun owners got smart, and crossed the border to another state and bought ammo. Philly put on a sugar tax on drinks, the mayor declares it a win, but every bodega in the city knows it’s a flop. Buyers leave the city, stock up on what they need. That’s what I would be doing.

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  3. Seattle, the City of Merde, where everything the socialist government touches turns into steaming-turd-smiley-emoticon

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  4. All it did was to drive gun and ammo buyers OUTSIDE of the city limits to buy guns and ammo. Not only did the city lose a lot of the EXTRA tax money, but also the normal tax that would have been payed for those purchases!

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    • David . . . Since this farce of a tax was such a failure due to the reasons you have cited. Is it little wonder that the City of Seattle did not wish to disclose to the general public just how stupid their little get rich scheme really was, referenced by just how small the taxes collected were. Just another instance where libtards shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get.

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  5. Kevin J Lankford

    “The tax is different from a regulation” is mere semantics. Taxes are created through regulation. Still it can not be denied that a tax is an “infringement”, which is the clear. intent.

    I would be willing to bet these clearly corrupt officials who would prefer to with hold this tax information claiming privacy concerns are in full support of demanding Trump release his tax records.

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  6. Bout time the folks request a out of state audit showing where and to whom the funds were given as well as the results.

    Probably just as revealing!

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