ER surgeon at Seth Rich’s hospital says his gun wounds were not fatal

Yesterday, on the Internet chat forum 4chan, an individual who goes by the alias of Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) claimed to be a surgery resident at Washington Hospital Center who had attended to Seth Rich — the 27-year-0ld Democratic National Committee (DNC) staffer who leaked thousands of damaging DNC emails to WikiLeaks.

Rich was shot in the early morning hours (around 4 a.m.) on Sunday, July 10, in a residential area of Washington, D.C. Although police say Rich was the victim of a “random burglary,” his killer(s) left behind Rich’s wallet, watch and cell phone.

Unless Anonymous comes forth to reveal his/her identity, there is no way for us to know if Anonymous is who he/she claims to be. However, as you will read for yourself, I find Anonymous to be credible because of the display of medical knowledge and use of medical shorthand terminology.

This is what Anonymous said:

  • Seth Rich was shot twice in the back.
  • He sustained a “small injury” to his liver and “several small bowel injuries” — none of which was fatal.
  • He was taken to the operating room, where his injuries were treated.
  • He was then moved to ICU (Intensive Care Unit) where he received blood transfusion. He was stable, his blood pressure normal.
  • 8 hours after Rich arrived at the hospital, the place “swarmed” with law enforcement officers. Everyone, except the attending physician and a few nurses, was kicked out of the ICU. There were no visiting hours, which is abnormal for ICU.
  • That morning, Anonymous and the other doctors were instructed not to make rounds (visits) on “the VIP that came in last night” (Seth Rich).
  • When Rich died, no one other than the attending physician was allowed to see him. There was no code alert or call for a cardiopulmonary resuscitation team. Although Anonymous was with a patient in the next room, he/she was blocked from attending to Rich.
  • At the time, Anonymous couldn’t understand why the patient Rich was treated that way and thought the whole thing to be “fishy”. Later, when he found out that the patient was Seth Rich, Anonymous “was terrified”.

Here’s a screenshot of Anonymous’ post (click to enlarge):

4chan deletes its contents at the end of each day, but the thread on which Anonymous had posted was briefly archived, which enabled me to copy what Anonymous wrote (see below) before the archived thread was removed.

Below are Anonymous’ post and his responses to 4chan readers’ queries:

Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) 05/17/17(Wed)13:12:50 No.125912863:

4th year surgery resident here who rotated at WHC (Washington Hospital Center) last year, it won’t be hard to identify me but I feel that I shouldn’t stay silent.

Seth Rich was shot twice, with 3 total gunshot wounds (entry and exit, and entry). He was taken to the OR emergently where we performed an exlap and found a small injury to segment 3 of the liver which was packed and several small bowel injuries (pretty common for gunshots to the back exiting the abdomen) which we resected ~12cm of bowel and left him in discontinuity (didn’t hook everything back up) with the intent of performing a washout in the morning. He did not have any major vascular injuries otherwise. I’ve seen dozens of worse cases than this which survived and nothing about his injuries suggested to me that he’d sustained a fatal wound.

Note: “OR” means operating room; “exlap” refers to exploratory laparotomy — is a surgical operation where the abdomen is opened and the abdominal organs examined for injury or disease. It is the standard of care in various blunt and penetrating trauma situations in which there may be multiple life-threatening injuries; “resected” means cut off or remove.

In the meantime he was transferred to the ICU and transfused 2 units of blood when his post-surgery crit came back ~20. He was stable and not on any pressors, and it seemed pretty routine. About 8 hours after he arrived we were swarmed by LEOs and pretty much everyone except the attending and a few nurses was kicked out of the ICU (disallowing visiting hours -normally every odd hour, eg 1am, 3am, etc- is not something we do routinely). It was weird as hell. At turnover that morning we were instructed not to round on the VIP that came in last night (that’s exactly what the attending said, and no one except for me and another resident had any idea who he was talking about).

Note: “post-surgery crit” is post-surgery critical care, referring to the patient’s  hematocrit level, i.e., the percentage of red blood cells circulating in the blood; “pressor” means “tending to increase blood pressure”; “LEOs” is law enforcement officers; “not to round” means not to make bedside visits.

No one here was allowed to see Seth except for my attending when he died. No code was called. I rounded on patients literally next door but was physically blocked from checking in on him. I’ve never seen anything like it before, and while I can’t say 100% that he was allowed to die, I don’t understand why he was treated like that. Take it how you may, /pol/, I’m just one low level doc. Something’s fishy though, that’s for sure.

Note: “No code was called” means no emergency alert was sounded for a cardiopulmonary resuscitation team; “/pol/” refers to “politically incorrect” posts on 4chan.

A commenter challenged Anonymous:

prove you are not a larper.
what are the list of medications you administered throughout the entire process?

Note: “a larper” is someone who engages in larp or live action role playing, i.e., someone online pretending to be someone else.

Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) 05/17/17(Wed)13:26:47 No.125914751:

When he [Seth Rich] arrived to the trauma ward he had LR running, I don’t keep up with how much he got but less than 2 liters before we rolled to the OR.

Note: “LR” is Lactated Ringers (solution), a common fluid replacement for patients who have lost blood or other body fluids; “PRBC” is packed red blood cells; “FFP” is fresh frozen plasma.

No transfusion was done in trauma; the massive transfusion protocol was started because he was hypotensive on arrival but by the time the cooler (4u PRBC, 2u FFP) was ready we were on the way to the OR and honestly I don’t remember if he got any of it beforehand; he responded well to just IVF resuscitation so we went ahead with the surgery any just ended up giving him 2 units afterwards (the crit we got in trauma was returned just after we left and was low, ~24 IIRC but it wasn’t communicated to us… teamwork fail for sure but that can happen when we’re rushing to the OR)

Note: “hypotensive” means abnormally low blood pressure.

As for the rest of the meds? You’d have to ask anesthesia I guess. He didn’t need anything from us in the ICU except a propofol/fentanyl drip to maintain sedation while intubated but that’s pretty par for the course. The important part was that he was hemodynamically stable and not requiring pressors.

Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) 05/17/17(Wed)13:36:13 No.125915975

I haven’t spoken to the attending who was on staff that night but the other resident I was with that night doesn’t remember it in any clarity (he was called to traumas as part of his rotation but that was ancillary to his ICU -different ICU btw- duties). Basically he said, “yeah that was weird, right?” At the time we were way more concerned with the rising class / new interns (July 1st is a terrifying time to be a patient lol) to make much notice… it always stuck in my head as something super bizarre but it was a long time before I even realized it was Seth Rich. When he arrived he was assigned by our system a trauma number, not a name as his patient ID. I only knew him at that time as Tra### (no freaking way that I remember the actual number). When it came to light who he was a while later I was floored. And terrified.

Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) 05/17/17(Wed)13:39:36 No.125916400

Nope, nothing in the head so no freaking way we’d CT before going to the OR with a clear intraabdominal GSW. No need to FAST or anything, just stabilize and go to the OR

Note: “CT” is CAT scan; “GSW” is gunshot wound.

One could always just increase the propofol drip or give him a ton of roc and screw with the vent settings. No idea if that happened but it’d be easy if you have the right meds and access

Anonymous (ID: rhotYJAg) 05/17/17(Wed)13:53:57 No.125918189

He had two holes in his right flank and one in the left upper quadrant. In trauma you always assume by protocol that 3 holes = 3 bullets but it was pretty clear that he was shot twice by the trajectory of the bullet (eg, his liver injury). I’ve also seen enough GSWs to know that the media doesn’t get the number right every time.

Yeah, I’m not going to do that. Way too dangerous.

Alright anons it’s been swell but I’ll be gone for the next few hours for regular residency meeting / journal club BS. Take everything you read especially from the MSM with a grain of salt as usual but don’t stop digging.


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78 responses to “ER surgeon at Seth Rich’s hospital says his gun wounds were not fatal

  1. Sounds like another case of Arkan-cide.

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  2. There is no doubt something was really amiss with this from day one, but DC is in charge of what is printed, so it was down played.
    From all I have seen, no LEO can override what a DR. Or Hospital deems necessary for or when a treatment is necessary of any patient. I find that suspicious.
    Now, we have a family hired PI saying one thing and the family seems to be backing off on finding who killed their son. I find that more disturbing.

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  3. It’s very clear why the elite power structure are desperate to take down Trump. If any of the truth gets out, the whole house of cards comes down. Even the media will abandon them for the moment. Trump is the only one with enough independence and guts to go after them, but we need to pray that he gets the right guidance. He is fast being compromised by his own subordinates, in terms of both counsel and leaks.

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  4. ManCavePatriot

    I have read on multiple sites that DC Metro was engaged in a ‘shoot-out’ with Seth Rich’s ‘hit team’ and that they were taken into custody. Where is the follow-up?

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  5. Deleonpatriot

    “LR” that he referred to that the patient had “running” when he came to the ER is Lactated Ringers (solution) . Common fluid replacement for patients who have lost blood or other body fluids.
    “PRBC” is packed red blood cells and FFP is fresh frozen plasma.

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  6. Like the many other crimes, Seth Rich is laid to rest, the parents silence is compensated and the case is closed. The octupus tentacles reach very far and the liberals go about their business. The killing machine’s switch is turned off, momentarily.

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  7. Everyone should visit the youtube channel of George Webb. An entire string of deaths is involved. IMO, Wikileaks has been compromised since October 2016, and tens of thousands of people have been unmasked. The murder investigation into Seth Rich is a cover up of huge proportions, “Actor” Andrew McCabe is obstructing all avenues of investigation, in combination with a massive, coordinated disinformation psyop.

    Illegal surveillance by Barry and his executive branch brotherhood continues unimpeded. Hundreds of his political appointees, who transitioned into “career positions” are hard at work subverting our President. Chris Christie was made aware of this, the IG reported on the activity; then VP Pence took over the transition.

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  8. For all in government, which side are you and will you be on?

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  9. The conclusion that it was a botched robbery because Rich’s wallet and jewelry weren’t taken is not believable since it implies witnesses interrupted the robbery, and it’s my understanding there were none. It’s also not believable that trained assassins were used since they’d never leave their target alive, especially if no witnesses were around. Given the strong likelihood it was a hit, that suggests an amateur assassin or two were hired, as was the case several years ago with the botched assassination of Jack Wheeler–clearly a patriot who knew too much–, whose bizarre murder was also covered up by the FBI and police.

    This is all very unsettling since it implies the DNC and Clinton operation can rely on a cabal with a shadow command structure within the DOJ and FBI to destroy evidence and quash investigations. For example, if Lieberman is nominated and confirmed to head the FBI, good-bye any evidence implicating the Clintons, exposing Israeli espionage, or Israel’s role in 911, and hello foreign intel evidence that Russia is running the Trump WH.

    Regarding this anonymous revelation, It’s absurd on the face of it, since he (it doesn’t sound like a woman) admits identification is a given, he’s frightened for his life, and yet he ends by telling anyone looking where he’ll be over the next few hours, attending a meeting and, you know, just hanging out, shooting the breeze over some journal stuff. Way overdone, posting technical aspects of ER routine like that and the smarmy chumminess, making it highly probable this is a typical case of amateurish poisoning the well, wherein people who run with this are made to look like fools and conspiracy nut cases.


    • Not that anyone’s reading my comments, but I should add that if Lieberman is forced on Trump, there’d be a good chance it’s to blackmail him with fabricated evidence fed to the NSM into supporting an attack on Iran, Syria, and maybe Russia.


    • “he’s frightened for his life, and yet he ends by telling anyone looking where he’ll be over the next few hours, attending a meeting and, you know, just hanging out, shooting the breeze over some journal stuff.”

      Anonymous wrote in his initial post that he’s a “4th year surgery resident here who rotated at WHC (Washington Hospital Center) last year“. That suggests he’s no longer at WHC, and so saying on 4chan that he’ll be attending a meeting does not necessarily expose his identity.

      He said the meeting he’s attending is a “residency meeting,” i.e., a regularly-scheduled meeting for “resident doctors” — MDs who practice medicine in a hospital or clinic under the supervision of an attending physician. Successful completion of a residency program is a requirement to obtaining an unrestricted license to practice medicine in many jurisdictions. A residency meeting, therefore, is not as you casually dismissed as “just hanging out, shooting the breeze over some journal stuff”.

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      • OK, but hope you do understand my suspicion and, as a woman whose professional expertise is in evaluating the grounds for belief, you’ll look for confirmation. What’s revealing is the Clinton/DNC’s direct involvement in silencing the Rich family, suggesting the hit originated there.

        Of more concern is even the idea that an Israeli like Lieberman, a man of no loyalty to America whatsoever, may be jammed down Trump’s throat, which would amount to a coup with ominous implications for war. In any case, what always needs emphasizing is that Trump is a proxy for us all, and the hatred directed at him by the Republican establishment and more subtly by Fox News reflects their subservience to the real power in DC. No talk about globalism, militarism, progressivism, etc can begin to explain the hatred we’re witnessing. Trump as proxy for us all, on the other hand, does explain the Jews’ pathological hatred, not of Trump as a man of course–he grovels at their feet–, but because this pathological hatred is all about us.


        • “as a woman whose professional expertise is in evaluating the grounds for belief, you’ll look for confirmation.”

          What does my gender have to do with what I do?
          My professional expertise, having been well taught in and having myself taught epistemology and the philosophy of science, is to examine the empirical evidence and logical reasoning for empirical truth claims — evidence that I strive to always present in my posts on FOTM for our readers’ evaluation and assessment. I don’t appreciate your insinuation that I have confirmation bias.

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          • I haven’t insinuated anything about confirmation bias on your part. And I don’t understand your testiness over my mentioning you’re a woman merely to place you as the subject of what was meant as an indirect compliment regarding your having taught epistemology. I was going to mention Pope’s quip about the inadvisibility of arguing with a woman, but am afraid you wouldn’t appreciate his wry humor at this point. I am on your side, by the way. Best of everything, always.


            • “I was going to mention Pope’s quip about the inadvisibility of arguing with a woman, but am afraid you wouldn’t appreciate his wry humor at this point.”

              So you mentioned it anyway, this time with a real put-down — “inadvisibility of arguing with a woman”. You do realize you just proved my point?

              My gender has NOTHING to do with your inability to argue against my rebuttal of your dismissal of Anonymous. So you resorted to the gender card. Tsk, tsk.

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  11. Somehow, it seems even more ominous to think that he (Seth) arrived at the hospital, and later was allowed to expire due to interference by police type officials. I feel profoundly sick at this moment. May the influence of the angels in Heaven be involved in ferreting out the mystery surrounding his actual death.

    Excellent post!!!

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  12. The plot thickens…yet I’m sure we will never know the truth.

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  14. I agree that what “Anonymous” wrote could very well be legitimate. However, Ronald Reagan coined the phrase, “trust but verify.”

    How does one make a double typo on the word “emergency” with a “t” and then an “l” when the “l” is very far from the “c” on the keyboard?

    Another question. Why does “4chan” delete its content each day? Seems weird to me…

    And “Dan” wrote about “Israeli espionage” and that “Israel (had a role) in 9/11?

    It is sometimes very difficult to discern truth from lies these days; especially with the hard-core leftist lunatics spewing all kinds of propaganda!

    Why would Seth’s parents want to avoid finding out the truth about their son? Fear? Most likely. Threatened with death (towards themselves or other loved ones) if they “talked” about who was really behind their son’s demise? Probably. I think that kind of threat would shut anyone up.

    The D.C. swamp is deep, entrenched, huge, very evil, and will be hard to drain. It is my hope and prayer that the Trump Administration will endure and get through all of the lies being spewed by the media of mass deception and their leftist cohorts so that Trump can continue to right the wrongs of the past; especially the lies, corruption and evil of the disastrous obummer badministration, and eventually get rid of the cesspool of continual corruption that America has been suffering under for decades.

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  15. Seth Rich should have known he would be the next one to be disposed off. The liberals waited and the killing machine activated. The Mafia of the 21st. century is swift and leaves no tracks, once one enters the domain, dare not betray -death is the silent way out.
    ❤️Alma Alejandra Mowday


  16. RN here. A post surgery “crit” is a hematocrit level. Or the percentage of RBCs circulating in the blood.

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  17. traildustfotm

    Dr. Eowyn, thank you for publishing this story before it could drop off the cliff.

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  18. Thanks. Great post — I linked to you in my article on dubious circumstances around Seth Rich >>

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  22. Wasn’t’ the original timeline in the media that he died in the hospital about 2 hours after he was shot? According to Anonymous, he is in the ICU and LEOs arrive 8 hours after he arrived???? Something is amiss, but that goes without saying.

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  23. William Brandon Shanley

    Thank you for this breakthrough report, Dr. Eowyn!

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  28. Not saying anything that hasn’t been said already, but geez, the body pile sure is getting deep.
    I feel so so so sorry for Seth and his family (who were probably threatened to shut up) for what has happened. I just hope this doesn’t stay swept under the rug with all the rest of the souls who had the bravery and GUTS to come out with the information that they came out with about these evil Washington insiders. They have my utmost respect for the courage they showed by going and getting the information out there.
    I can’t blame that surgery resident for being scared shitless about being found by the Evil ones…they don’t care who they kill. They want those secrets to remain secrets. As they know, even if you go public with your information, that doesn’t always save you, or you’ll be suicided or have a ‘heart attack’ and nobody will investigate. Just like Scalia and even Kennedy.
    Pray to the Lord to reveal all these cockroaches, if it is not against His will.

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  29. John Podesta has a relative who works at the DC Police and the owner of Comet Ping Pong (Alafantis) is friends with the DC Police Chief. The morning Seth was shot an officer reported that he had heard gun shots and sped to the scene. What if it that really didn’t happen and it was the police officer who had shot Seth but then made up the story he heard the gun shots to cover up the hit on Seth he was asked to do? It took Seth almost 3 hours to walk home that night. The walk typically takes @ 45 minutes. What if Seth did actually make it home that night but then was lured from his home by someone he trusted? Like an officer? Just some theories but they are eating at me.

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    • Seth’s parents reported they were shown video footage from the scene of the shooting. They saw what appeared to be two men shooting and fleeing, but only caught a weird view of it. After they saw it, the video mysteriously disappeared from the DC police department.


      • Apparently the “only video” of the perpetrators shows them from the knees down. What? That’s so convenient! I personally believe there is no video of Seth walking home that night because he was put into a car at Lou’s City Bar and then taken somewhere….and then dumped at the scene. Not sure I believe that he and his girlfriend were on the phone the whole entire time or that as soon as they hung up the final time, Seth was killed 2 minutes later. Just seems like “someone” is filling in the blanks for us to believe that this was a botched robbery gone awry.


  30. Emergently is a common term and should not be followed by sic obviously the author is unfarmiliar with medical terminology since he defined other common terms that most people know.


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  32. As a victim of gunshot wounds he becomes a medical examaner’s case and an autopsy must be done!!! This should be a matter of public record..???where is the autopsy report??????????????

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  33. Time line doesn’t work with resident.


  34. Here’s a medical document that uses “emergently” more than once:

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  38. What kind of family does Seth have letting this one go? I would seek for the Presidents help if it was my child! You do not let your child die for few pieces of Silver!

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  42. Joseph L. Pfeifer, MD

    I am an attending Trauma Surgeon and Trauma Director with 30 yrs. experience, with boards in surgery & surgical critical care and have treated many hundreds of GSWs and SWs in my career. If what this resident described is true, and it has the ring of truth, the hospital and attending doctor have much to answer for, if the events can be verified. Whether this can be properly investigated is questionable, under the circumstances.

    The story of the time of shooting & being pronounced at a “local hospital” sounds bogus.Penetrating trauma patients who signs of life in the field, routinely undergo ED thoracotomy in an attempt to clamp the aorta in the chest to direct blood to the brain and heart. Alternatively, in some Level 1 centers, a balloon catheter is directed to the aorta through the artery in the groin to achieve the same thing.

    I do know that if I had a surgeon who allowed this to happen to his patient, I would take the following actions:
    1) Question him aggressively behind closed doors, as well as any involved nurses or residents, and if I was not satisfied with the answers, this is what would happen next-
    2) A letter to the the medical licensing authority questioning his fitness to practice
    3) Demand a hearing from the Medical Staff or Peer Review organization in the hospital to ascertain fitness to remain on the medical staff
    4) Relieve him of all contact with trauma patients -ie- take him off service
    5) Contact the FBI & DA’s office with my findings

    Of course, after doing this, I might be the next person unexplainedly shot on the street.

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    • Thank you, Dr. Pfeifer, for giving us your professional assessment and opinion.

      For our readers: Dr. Pfeifer is who he says he is.


      • Dr. E, do you have an opinion on this yet? I’m unsure. While I wouldn’t put a murder past the Clintons and their ilk, something with this just seems “wrong”.

        Yes, I could see a patient being sidelined with instructions not to check in on him. I would think that would be suspicious.

        My “gut” tells me that it would make better sense, all things considered, if Mr. Rich were playing Pinocle with Ken Lay and Babs Olsen as we speak.

        That would account for the odd reactions of the family, etc..

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  43. There are many “signs” that this was another operation. When one couples this analysis with other events it becomes even more suspicious. Look at the extreme effort to “debunk” anyone who raised questions. It’s almost as bad as with SHES.

    Those who have studied JFK’s assassination will be familiar with “LE” stepping in to direct traffic. While it is indeed improper and foolhardy to allow cops (or other agents) to interfere with medical treatment, it happens. As well-educated and highly trained as MD’s are, many are as susceptible to intimidation as anyone else. In some cases maybe more out of professional fears.

    In this case we have a known doctor who seems to have a disproportionate interest in politics. I understand that he was also treating the recent Congress critter that was wounded by the leftist crazy. I further understand that had he not received a visit from Trump’s personal doctor we might be examining his demise as well.

    The scum of Washington play by awful rules. Most are psychopaths. That can include medical doctors who aspire to being “connected”. The sort of drive and ambition it takes to succeed in medical school could easily be indicative of psychological problems.

    At any rate, this has the ring of truth. Obviously someone ordered this unorthodox set of circumstances for Seth Rich. It shouldn’t be too hard to find out who that was. “Why” that was might be tougher to get straight answers for.

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  45. They make me sick to my stomach, the democrats started as criminal racists and they stay as covered criminal racists. Only the plantations today we call ghettos and barrios. There are going to be alot of people standing before God answering for this.


  46. I was just recently thinking about this Seth Rich case, and came across this blog entry that I’d completely missed. It helped a lot to read what “Anonymous” had to say. If he is telling the truth about all of it, then I think he does have reason to be a bit wary, which is an understatement. One thing that puzzles me no end though is–why did his ‘assassin[s]’ shoot him with such a small caliber weapon, if their aim was to kill him?

    I think in order for a weapon of that caliber to be certain to kill someone the shot needs to be delivered into the head at very close range, since a bullet that small would then stay inside the skull, and just rattle around, destroying the brain—yikes, that’s grim! I picked that bit of info up after watching “My Blue Heaven”, with comedian Steve Martin–plus, my husband, who is former military law enforcement, told me basically that, yes, that’s true about that caliber bullet, and small-sized hand gun.

    However, I’ve also been hearing rumors that maybe this was another falsity, that it never really happened, but was an operation carried out to try and…what?…that’s the question! Why would something like this be faked–what could be gained from it?!

    Perhaps if falsified, and Rich is really still alive, the fake shooting might have been performed in order to try and strike fear into the heart of any other informers, letting them know that they’d better think twice before telling-all, or they might end up like Rich–dead[or playing cards, as lophatt mentioned].

    God let us know that the time of the end, prior the Lord’s return, would be so filled with deception that the truth would be nearly impossible to discern, the lies would be so good, and so plentiful–or as the Lord put it, their deceptions would fool even the ‘elect’ IF that were possible–I think He meant the lies surrounding anti-Christ would be so convincing that they might even fool those closest to Him here on earth–but, considering how fast and furiously the lies are coming right now, it shouldn’t be long to wait for the biggest lie of all to finally be offered up for our consideration.


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  48. I find it interesting that many MSM outlets are just now reporting this as a “new conspiracy theory”. I suppose that, for those who follow the MSM, they must live in an entirely different universe.

    I don’t really have enough information that I trust on this yet to decide whether this was another hoax or the real deal. If this alleged ER doctor is telling the truth, that should be easy to confirm.

    I will say that the whole thing looks highly suspicious to me. Only a couple of days ago someone was connecting dots between the Awan Bros. and Rich. It IS possible, but I simply don’t know. I note for the record that his last name is “Rich” just like another famous Clinton pardonee.

    Assange does nothing to dispel the rumor that he is his source. So, there is confusion as to whether there is a factional dispute within the New World Odor as to pushing the “Russia did it” meme and those who would establish Clinton criminality. After all, we all KNOW Clinton is evil, no matter where we heard it.


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