Grandpa of teen shot dead in home invasion says it’s unfair that homeowner was armed with AR-15

On March 27, 2017, Oklahoma Wagoner County deputies responded to a report of a possible home invasion with shots fired. Upon arrival, deputies found three suspects dead and the two residents uninjured.

Jessica Remer & Burt Mummolo report for ABC8 Tulsa that Deputy Nick Mahoney said the preliminary investigation shows that the three suspects went to the residence with the intent to burglarize the home: “They were dressed in black, all had masks on, and all had gloves on.”

The suspects broke in through a glass door in the back of the house, and encountered the homeowner’s 23-year-old son, who was carrying an AR-15.

Mahoney said, “There was a short exchange of words and then gunfire happened.” Two suspects died in the kitchen, and a third ran from the home but collapsed and died in the driveway.

One of the suspects had a knife and another had brass knuckles, according to investigators. Residents in the neighborhood say they’ve seen an increase in break-ins recently.

The homeowner’s son is cooperative and volunteered to go to the sheriff’s office to give a statement. He has not been charged with a crime. Deputies believe he fired in self-defense.

The three now-dead home invaders are 19-year old Maxwell Cook, 16-year old Jake Woodruff, and 17-year-old Jacob Redfearn.

Ethan Hutchins reports for ABC8 Tulsa, that Redfearn’s grandfather, Leroy Schumacher, said what his grandson and the other two “boys” did “was stupid,” but killing them was not needed: “They knew they could be punished for it but they did not deserve to die.”

Schumacher insisted his grandson never got into trouble, and that Jacob didn’t have a chance in an unfair match:

“Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life. There’s got to be a limit to that [homeowner’s self defense] law, I mean he shot all three of them; there was no need for that. These boys’ families are going to suffer with this the rest of their lives, we have to live with this the rest of our lives.”

Although Schumacher supports the right to bear arms and protect your home, he doesn’t agree with shooting and killing intruders. He only hopes the deaths of his grandson and the other two “boys” can be an example for others: “You can’t change history, but you can damn sure learn from it, and maybe some kids will learn from this.”

Since the shooting, Wagoner County deputies have arrested 21-year-old Elizabeth Rodriguez, the getaway driver who admitted to planning the whole thing.

So what would Leroy Schumacher recommend to homeowners in the midst of a home invasion? Defend their homes and their lives by always choosing a weapon that “matches” those of the home invaders?



31 responses to “Grandpa of teen shot dead in home invasion says it’s unfair that homeowner was armed with AR-15

  1. Hey dumb ass. I could have killed him with a pistol or a shotgun. The AR-15 was just the tool of opportunity.

    I have no freaking mercy on you. You violated the confines of my home, you ignored the law. YOu failed to take heed of my multiple NO TRESSPASSING signs. You are armed and have the intent to do harm and now your pathetic family wants to say IT WAS AN UNFAIR FIGHT?????


    Someone please kick this guy in the ass and send him back to his broke down single wide. ( I say this as the king of my double wide.)

    I have no pity.

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    • Seriously– they literally took a knife to a gunfight (their choice) where it was legal to shoot them in self-defense (their choice again). Nobody made them do this. Can someone say “Darwin Award”?

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  2. I understand that Schumacher loves his grandson, and he is showing his public embarrassment over the matter: His line of reasoning begs the question of who the real aggressors were.
    I was a high school teacher here in New York City for eleven years. I have had former students arrested for horrific crimes, I have had former students killed committing horrific crimes, I have had former students who were killed both by police and by criminals. I’ve seen the societal breakdown, and I’ve dealt with teenagers who just won’t be taught anything. So let’s not pretend that they are not capable of evil: They are, and even many of them admit to it.

    These punks got what they deserved: THEY created the situation that THEY controlled.

    “You cannot negotiate with people who say what is theirs is theirs and what is ours is theirs.” —John F. Kennedy

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  3. Hey, just like with Mike Brown:

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  4. Stephen T. McCarthy

    Schumacher is a schmuck. Good riddance to his grandson and the other vermin that were properly disposed of!

    Now if only someone who knows him would knock some sense into Schumacher’s stupid noggin. This crap has gone on too long, thanks to the likes of brain-dead liberals like Gramps Schmucker.

    ~ D-FensDogG
    ‘Loyal American Underground’

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  5. I will jump on the bandwagon here and call Grandpa an ignorant moron. The apple didn’t fall too far from the family idiot tree. These three clowns got exactly what they deserved. Rocket scientist Grandpa thinks that crime victims must fight “fair.” Just exactly how are you expected to know what criminals are carrying when they break into your home? Those three losers would be alive today if they didn’t choose to do something stupid. They created the situation that cost them their worthless lives. Gramps can go back to sitting in his rocking chair on the front porch (do trailers have front porches?).

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  6. Then grandpa should have gave his grandson a bullet proof vest for Christmas.

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    • OK, granted, but wouldn’t that be seen as ‘admission of intent to commit crime’ or murder or mayhem….

      Actually, who the Hell cares: 3 more sent to the Hell of their CHOICE! They can wait for their whore –I mean girl friend– to show up any minute.


  7. Sorry grandpa, that’s not how the 2A works.

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  8. Three with brass knuckles and knives against one. Gee, I wonder WHO would have been afraid for his life? And who would have died had the homeowner not been armed?

    I understand grief for a grandson – but this guy is dirt-stupid and plain old WRONG. His grandson would have been much better off for being taught right from wrong BY his grandfather, when he was little.

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    • Catherine . . . You are so right . . . had the families (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles) installed the idea of RIGHT vs WRONG, their children would not have been killed in the commission of a crime. Sadly, this Grandpa’s thinking has been twisted by this tragic event. He would have been much better off keeping his mouth shut on this subject, rather than opening his mouth and proving that he is rather stupid. If the tables had been turned and someone else’s rabid teenager had broken into his home and threatened his life . . . would he still think the same way. Some how I rather doubt it!

      Excellent article! Thank you.

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  9. “Unfair Match” What an idiot, seems the punk inherited grandpa’s stupid gene.

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  10. And think of the future crimes that these three WON’T be committing!

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  11. Once it is determined that deadly force is necessary, the instrument of that force is irrelevant.

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  12. I can bet that old fool complaining about the way his grandson (a criminal with intent to use his weapon to murder those people) is a liberal who voted twice for Obama, & voted for Hillary. The punks got what they deserved. I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot and he was facing a life or death situation. What would he use? A baton used for the leader of a marching band?

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  13. I admit this was a tragic mistake on the part of the dead home invaders, but not on the part of the out numbered home defender. I would like to know just what words were used during the brief verbal exchange.

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  14. IF his grandson had been HOME in bed he would still be alive. You break into my home baring a knife I’m not going to go get a knife I’m going to shoot you. The grandson MAY have known “that he could be punished for this crime” but he obviously didn’t give a rats a$$ about that as he broke into someones home with the intent to injure them if he had to. He won’t be breaking into any other homes!

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  15. Granddad would never have dared say one word if that homeowner had been a woman who had small children in the home, and the husband had been away–simply due to the homeowner being a young man, who faced them alone with his weapon, that gave granddad an opening to use his mouth as a weapon against the homeowner–besides, the homeowner could not have known those 3 thugs were not armed with a gun, and just had a knife and brass knuckles–certainly, the knife nor the brass knuckles, were matches for the firearm, but how would the homeowner ever have known it was such an ‘unfair’ match-up–ask the intruders, “Are you guys carrying a firearm?” ?! Yeah–sure–I’d believe them if they said, “Naw, we just have a knife and some brass knuckles”–oh, good grief!

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  16. Grandpa just hasn’t been the same since grandma got run over by a reindeer.* Lyrics; “as for me and grandpa, we believe”

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  17. Hey asshole , your oh so precious grandson invaded a home and got exactly what he deserved. And btw…brass knuckles are a prohibited offensive weapon and simply possessing them is a crime. So, your oh so innocent grand-corpse isn’t so innocent after all. Blockhead.

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  18. leeann Springer

    That “dead above the neck” grandpa must be a snowflake. Wonder how many previous robberies/breaking and entering sprees, his grandson and the other 2 punks were involved in but never caught? Frankly, grandpa Leroy, is part of the problem. Wonder what he would say if the situation was in reverse? Any punk (s) who breaks into my house (if they can get past my two 120 pound protective dogs) will be met by a Judge, and I’m not talking about the type found in a court either. Leroy is a bad grandpa!! Leeann Springer

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  20. Well, I think it was unfair for those three idiots to put the homeowners into such a position that they had to do what they did to survive. It will live with them the rest of their lives. They are the victims, not the invaders.

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  21. After going back and taking a good look at Redfern’s picture . . . you will note in the picture ( suppose high school picture) shows him with a smirk on his face. I would take it that he was kind of a young person who was swimming against the stream so to speak. I would not like it if the picture I had left of my son was a smirky young smart A$$. Unfortunately, he got what he was willing to bargain for . . . and other home owners will not be troubled by his predilection for breaking and entering!

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  22. So if the person didn’t have the AR15 what were the good boys going to do? Suck it up, if they wanted to live they should have ran away when they saw the R 15….

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    • Yeppers, and had the smarts to live another day. However, they were persuaded by their mutual madness and perhaps group whore getaway driver that this was the BEST they could do for… what?

      Darwin demonstrated more than a century that this behaviour was a display of God’s plan to weed out the bad apples. What is wrong with that? Can no one accept rational morality? Must we ALL become victims of our own terminal stupidity, yet expect to live another day? Why?


  23. Granddad should be happy that the homeowner didn’t own and use a 12 gauge instead, in which case dear grandson wouldn’t have been very presentable at his funeral ceremony.

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  24. And just what would that limit to the law be???
    Is it “fair” that those idiots chose that particular house?
    They gambled, they lost. Hopefully others will learn from it.
    I sure bet granddad would not hesitate to shoot anyone coming into his home! You use what’s available, there isn’t time to be picky!


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