Eleanor Roosevelt was a lesbian

Hillary Clinton is a great admirer of Eleanor Roosevelt, wife of FDR, with whose spirit or ghost then-First Lady Hillary held “seance” conversations.

It turns out Hillary has much more in common with Eleanor than both having been First Lady.

eleanor-and-hick

Brooke Hauser writes for the New York Post, Oct. 22, 2016, that Susan Quinn’s Eleanor and Hick: The Love Affair That Shaped a First Lady is an account of the 30-years-long “love story” of Eleanor Roosevelt and a bourbon-drinking, cigarette-smoking Associated Press reporter named Lorena Hickok, or Hick.

In more than 3,000 letters, the two women called each other “darling,” “dear one” and “heart,” and told each other “je t’aime” and “j’adore”.  In one letter in March 1933, the normally reserved Eleanor wrote: “All day I’ve thought of you . . . Oh! I want to put my arms around you, I ache to hold you close.”

Quinn is not the first to tell the tale of Eleanor and Hick.

Quinn’s book begins in 1932, shortly before Hick began covering Eleanor Roosevelt during FDR’s presidential campaign. After observing Eleanor’s unease with the spotlight at that year’s Democratic convention, Hick wired her boss: “THE DAME HAS ENORMOUS DIGNITY, SHE’S A PERSON.”

Hick spent the following weeks as “Eleanor’s appendage,” traveling on the campaign trail and earning her trust. Eleanor told Hick that she “never wanted to be a president’s wife, and I don’t want it now.”

Eleanor Roosevelt (l); Lorena Hickock (r)

Eleanor Roosevelt (l); Lorena Hickock (r)

By the time FDR was inaugurated in 1933, the two women had fallen in love. The evening before FDR delivered his famous line about having nothing to fear but “fear itself,” Eleanor had read it first to Hick.

For his part, FDR, who had his own extramarital affairs, accepted his wife’s “friendship” with Hick and even let Hick have her own room at the White House to be closer to Eleanor.

Not one to show physical affection, even to her children, Eleanor showered it upon Hick, describing the tender kisses she wanted to give her when they were apart. Hick responded with equal passion, writing: “I’ve been trying to bring back your face [and] the feeling of that soft spot just north-east of the corner of your mouth against my lips.”

Hick helped Eleanor to learn how to navigate the press. Hick’s relationship with the Roosevelts forced her to abandon her career as a news reporter, but Eleanor helped her get a job working as a field investigator for Harry Hopkins, the head of New Deal relief programs.

Later, Eleanor shifted her affections toward her handsome, much younger doctor, David Gurewitsch, to whom she wrote in 1956, “I love you as . . . I have never loved anyone else.”

After Eleanor’s death in 1962, Hick lived for 5½ more years, worn down by blindness, arthritis and loneliness. She finally died of complications from diabetes at the age of 75. Her body was cremated; her ashes sat in anonymity on a shelf of a funeral home for 20 years before being interred in an unmarked grave at a cemetery in Rhinebeck, New York.

~Eowyn

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21 responses to “Eleanor Roosevelt was a lesbian

  1. My late father contracted polio just before the vaccine was discovered, and as a result, was never able to walk again. (He detested Roosevelt and his “New Deal,” but drew the line at their common ailment.) Years ago when I was a teacher, I read “Roosevelt’s Magnificent Deception,” on how a complicit press hid the news of FDR’s paralysis from the public. I sent the book to Dad, and he liked it.
    I remember when Eleanor Roosevelt died in 1962. I recall her famous quote, “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent,” and I believe that sentiment to be true, by and large.

    I don’t know much about Eleanor Roosevelt, and, as busy as I still am, trying to make a living, don’t have much time for reading a book, although I would like to do so. (I study the internet for four hours or more a day, when I can). One of my former colleagues told me he met Eleanor Roosevelt, and said she was the absolute physically UGLIEST woman he had ever laid eyes on!
    That being said, as a professional driver for the past 20 years, I can tell you that NOT ONE gay couple ever “made out” in my cab: Every last couple that did was straight (and I took great offense from it). Gay and lesbian riders have been among the best-tipping and best-behaved riders I’ve ever had.

    Now that I have gotten that out of the way, I think it’s high time we retired the term “homosexual” and referred to the condition for what it is, or what it appears to be, as same-sex attraction. I believe that it is an objective moral disorder, in itself, and a sin when acted upon. (In other words, I believe it is an emotionally arrested state of development.) My question regarding this book and Mrs. Roosevelt (and for many lesbian couples) would be this: Was (or is) the relationship more emotional than sexual? Not that that would excuse the sexual behavior: Scripture tells us that “no fornicator shall inherit the Kingdom.” But is the relationship more emotional than sexual? Or, does the emotional tie (if there is one) held in primacy in the relationship? (I don’t see the same as holding for the overwhelming majority of gay men.)

    All of this being said, I would certainly imagine that as a Nation, we have had WORSE First Ladies: The current one is no Prize, and neither was another, who was wife to one and mother to another! I have had a number of lesbians as students and as riders in my cab. We cannot approve of their condition, or of what they do. But I believe we can respect them as people, and, that, as Christians, we are bound to respect their rights AS PERSONS, whether we understand them or not. Here, I would give Mrs. Roosevelt her due, in that “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.”

    I will end with this. I had a woman in my Uber, about six months ago, and we were talking. I asked her why it was that we could usually tell when a man was gay, but not when a woman was a lesbian. She told me something I never heard before. (She said she was heterosexual.) She insisted that straight women could tell when a woman was a lesbian when the men could not. So where in literature could we find something to corroborate this observation—if not regarding someone’s preference or orientation, per se, but in observing the subtle? Should we look to Henry James—whose powers of observation were ethereal in the extreme, or to someone else, such as Virginia Woolfe or Radcliffe Hall, who may have been just as keen in their observations, but more obscure in their descriptions?

    My new landlady and her partner are lesbians. I approve of them as people. I do not approve of what they do. They respect me as a person. (I will pray for them.) What more can I ask?

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    • Great observations and insights, Steven. I agree with you. There is so much sexual confusion in this hour that we must remember to respect and love those around us who are out on the rim. Jesus attracted sinners during His ministry. And not just sinners, but champion sinners, like todays “porn stars.” He was sent to reach the sick, not the healthy (His words, not mine).

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    • Steve,
      Confusing times indeed. I too, worked with many homosexuals over the years and they mostly contained themselves in a decent manner.
      What I object to, is their lifestyle being forced upon us to change our beliefs.
      I think all sexual behavior, straight or gay, should be behind closed doors.
      What you to do is between you and your God, if you so choose. Just don’t make demands on me. As long as they choose self respect and refuse to flaunt it parades, etc. I think, basically society will accept. PDA are not acceptable under any condition. This world has gone to the dark side it would seem and many in power are deeply involved.

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    • Whether Eleanor R. actually said “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent” is not incontrovertible. From Quote Investigator:

      “This popular aphorism is the most well-known guidance ascribed to Roosevelt. Quotation experts such as Rosalie Maggio and Ralph Keyes have explored the origin of this saying. Surprisingly, a thorough examination of the books the First Lady authored and her other archived writings has failed to discover any instances of the quote. Yet, the saying has been attributed to Roosevelt for more than seventy years….”

      The saying attributed to Roosevelt most likely stemmed from comments she made in 1935 when asked about the apparent snubbing of the Secretary of Labor. The AP reported that Eleanor R. said she didn’t think the secretary had been snubbed because “A snub is the effort of a person who feels superior to make someone else feel inferior. To do so, he has to find someone who can be made to feel inferior.” From there, later renditions of her comment became revised into the final, more elegant version that is attributed to her today. In fact, in 1838, the American clergyman William Ellery Channing was the first to say: ‘No power in society, no hardship in your condition can depress you, keep you down . . . but by your own consent.'”


      So my conclusion is that Eleanor Roosevelt being credited with that insightful aphorism is the result of repeated embroiderings by an adoring press.

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  2. Great reminder, Dr. Eowyn. It seems our high offices and their occupants have seen moral confusion for much longer than most of us presumed.
    Sad end for Hick.
    And just think how strange the Roosevelts were. My dad was stationed at Hyde Park on the Hudson during most of the war. He would often crack up laughing at the antics he observed there. Winston Churchill was in the habit of walking out and taking a leak on the president’s lawn at night.
    Eleanor Roosevelt once pinned a medal on him. He couldn’t tell the story without chuckling at how off-the-wall the first lady was.
    The press of the day fed the public with praise for the great fatherly leadership FDR gave the country during the Great Depression and WWII. My dad once mentioned that when FDR was elected, many people believed America was doomed. So here’s the question. Did FDR lead us through and out of that horrible time, or did he turn an economic downturn into a near famine, while giving way to a progressive globalist agenda of population reduction through war?
    Yeah, that’s a mouthful, and probably not really accurate, but it does show how much FDR has fallen in my personal opinions.

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    • TD, having access to Pearl and the inside workings for several years, the inside rumor is, FDR knew exactly that the Japanese were going to attack. He had moved the carriers out to sea, but left those battleships in port since they were becoming an elderly fleet. One reason Japan was PO’d at us was FDR refused to sell them steel, but you rarely hear that version.
      On the food chain, for me, he ranks at the bottom. And I hate hearing him receive kudos.

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    • “Sad end for Hick.”

      Thank you, TD, for noting what is really significant about the Eleanor-Hick story. In the end, Eleanor Roosevelt tossed Hick away like a piece of used tissue, to die unknown and unmourned.

      I’m also puzzled why a straight-forward post on Eleanor Roosevelt being a lesbian, or most probably bisexual (given her infatuation with her male doctor), became an occasion for injunctions that we must treat homosexuals as human beings. Who had recommended otherwise?

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    • Yes: FDR’s policies DID NOT end the Depression; as a matter of fact, his policies made the Depression WORSE. And YES, at least ONE MILLION Americans starved to death during the Great Depression.
      I have also read that FDR did conduct occult ceremonies in the White House while President, and the posts seemed credible to me.
      So like Bill Clinton, FDR may have known how to play the political game, but that doesn’t mean he was any good. (But at least FDR was a better orator than either Bill Clinton or Clown Obama!)

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  3. Democrat Lesbians Redefine Ugly To The Bone:
    Hillary & Eleanor are the muses of impotence. Should we invite Fauxcohantas (Elizabeth Warren) to join this elite pair?

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  4. More mental illness. Hosexuality is when there’s something wrong in your brain. Much like liberalisim and socialisim. FDR was a socialist therefor mentlaly ill. The decline of the US started wih him and his social programs. Mr. Trump not only needs to purge america of odumbo’s programs and ‘excuitive orders’ He needs to go all the way back to FDR to correct the course of the US. Until we get rid of ‘entitlement’ we’ll never pull ourselves out of this hole we’re in.

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    • The decline of the U.S. can be argued from a number of vantage points. Some maintain, as I do, that it began in earnest with Woodrow Wilson’s Administration, which gave us the 16th & 17th Amendments and the Federal Reserve.
      Yet others, of the Lew Rockwell crowd, e.g., Thomas Woods, would argue that our decline really began with Abraham Lincoln, given his proclivity to dialectics and establishing the foundations of big government. In fact, former CIA operative Dr. Steve Piecyzenik forcefully argues that the Civil War was really “the Great American Genocide,” and his explanation can be found on his You Tube channel.
      But FDR certainly did the Constitution his fair share of harm and injury!

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    • Trump should go back to before the Federal Reserve existed, but will he? Odds are nearly completely against it.

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  5. Lest we forget, a more happy ending for another lesbian. (And please inform me if I am wrong.) Gertrude Stein’s lesbian partner was Alice B. Toklas. She did convert to Catholicism and died in 1967 at the age of 97 or 98.

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  6. Why are all Dykes so UGLY?
    WHY.

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  7. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this interesting post. This relationship was discussed on television last year, and I can’t remember which channel aired it but I was shocked. I find it “creepy.”

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