Physicists discover humans have souls

Religion and science need not be at loggerheads for, once again, science discovered something Christians have long believed — that we each have a soul.

Yesterday, an article in the UK rag, The Sun, told of a scientific discovery that actually is several years old: Physicists have discovered the equivalent of the soul, i.e., something that endures after the death of our bodies.

To begin, physicists like renowned British physicist Sir Roger Penrose now believe that human consciousness is something ineffable that’s “beyond the computational laws of physics”. Watch and listen as Penrose grapples at describing our consciousness in the video below, beginning at the 2:11 mark:

“To me, there is something outside the computational laws of physics. And when I wrote my book, ‘The Emperor’s New Mind,’ I was trying to develop this idea, and I was trying to say, ‘Well, there is something else out there.’ What could it be? Where is the biggest gap in our understanding of physics?  . . . most of these things don’t have a direct bearing on what the brain does . . . . This big gap is within present-day quantum mechanics . . . maybe that gap is where the theory has to be outside a computational system.”

According to Penrose and other physicists, our consciousness is “a packet of information” that’s stored at a quantum or sub-atomic level in microtubules within human cells. When a person dies, his or her quantum information (or consciousness) leaves the body and is released into the universe, only to return to the body’s cells if the host is brought back to life. Penrose argues that this explains why people can have near-death experiences, and believes that this quantum information amounts to a soul leaving the body:

“If the patient dies, it’s possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.”

microtubule

From Wikipedia:

“Microtubules are a component of the cytoskeleton, [cellular skeleton] found throughout the cytoplasm . . . . The outer diameter of a microtubule is about 24 nm [nanometre*] while the inner diameter is about 12 nm . . . . Microtubules are very important in a number of cellular processes. They are involved in maintaining the structure of the cell and, together with microfilaments and intermediate filaments, they form the cytoskeleton. They also make up the internal structure of cilia and flagella.They provide platforms for intracellular transport and are involved in a variety of cellular processes, including the movement of secretory vesicles, organelles, and intracellular macromolecular assemblies (see entries for dynein and kinesin). They are also involved in chromosome separation (mitosis and meiosis), and are the major constituents of mitotic spindles, which are used to pull apart eukaryotic chromosomes.”

*Note: One nanometre is one-billionth of a metre.

Dr. Hans-Peter Dürr, former head of Max Planck Institute for Physics in Munich, said:

“What we consider the here and now, this world, it is actually just the material level that is comprehensible. The beyond is an infinite reality that is much bigger. The body dies but the spiritual quantum field continues. In this way, I am immortal.”

As reported four years ago by Australia’s News.com on Oct. 31, 2012, Sir Roger Penrose and Dr. Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and Director of the Center of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules within our brain cells. Our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects inside these microtubules – a process they call orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR). In a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Or in layman’s terms, the soul does not die but returns to the universe.

Dr Hameroff explained the theory at length in the documentary Through the Wormhole, which was aired on the Science Channel:

“The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can’t be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large. If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules and the patient says ‘I had a near death experience’. [If the patient dies, it is] possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body indefinitely – as a soul.”

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~Eowyn

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19 responses to “Physicists discover humans have souls

  1. christians need to do their homework,immortality of the soul is a pagan doctrine.in fact according to the bible,we dont have souls,but we are souls,gen 2:7

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  3. Believers did not need that info but maybe this will win many non believers over. Either way it is good news.

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  5. these guys are full of themselves…”immortality” is achieved by following Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior not by “scientific” findings.
    “I am immortal”: no, you are a collection of microtubules, dna, peptides, proteins, tissue…you mean nothing without God, Who put it all together perfectly for you and I..
    “[If the patient dies, it is] possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body indefinitely”
    …this reminds me of transhumanism…I wouldn’t be surprised if these “scientists” were working on transferring microtubules and other human properties into nano-machines to try and give them “consciousness”.

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    • Good points. I only skimmed the article, and it looks to me as if the essential point underlying the hypothesis is that the soul and some form of non-sentient, informational immortality are emergent properties of matter that may be inaccessible to present and future measurement and observational capabilities developed by engineers, i.e, physics, but nonetheless strictly properties of matter, and of something as bizarre as the relatively inert cellular microtubules.

      Every soul is non-material and not only not a property of matter or emergent in time, but came into existence at the moment of the Divine act of Creation, which is a miracle, and the seeing it in others we love a gift of contemplation and source of adoration of God beyond knowing. What bothers me, and I gather you, has little to do with Roger Penrose, but with the naturalistic,Teilhardian concept of the soul and supernatural being purely manifestations of matter, which it seems is everywhere in the hierarchy today.

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      • Dan,
        You are confusing the spirit, which is eternal, with the soul (nephesh), which is just a body that is breathing. A body that is alive. Gen.2:7
        Blessings:-}

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  6. The article uses too many “it’s possible”s and “maybe”s to cite as evidence for the consciousness living on after physical death.
    According to the scriptures, the soul is a breathing creature (nephesh). Nothing more. Gen.2:7. This is why Adam became a living soul after God breathed into his nostrils. The breath of life given to Adam was the same breath that resuscitates a person when they have stopped breathing from some form of trauma. IT WAS JUST AIR. It is also the same breath (neshawmaw) God breathed into animals and birds. Gen.7:15
    If God had intended the breath to be spirit, He would have used the word ‘ruach’ (spirit). But, He did not. He used the word neshawmaw (air).
    This being true, it is not possible for a man to live on after physical death. Unless he is born again, as Jesus told Nicodemus he must be to enter the kingdom of heaven.
    The non Christian dies and ceases to exist until the resurrection unto damnation. Just like all OT people did. Those who died in faith in the OT will be raised first at the rapture along with those who died in faith after Jesus came
    But, those who are born again since Jesus came are immediately alive in heaven after the cessation of physical life. 2Cor.5:8
    Because they are spiritual, not natural as Adam was. 1Cor.15:46
    The soul is not a spirit and the spirit is not a soul. That is why the scripture can say in Heb.4:12 that the word divides between soul and spirit. They are not the same. And because you are a living soul like Adam was, means you do not have a spirit until you are literally born again.

    Blessings:-}

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  7. Men have wondered about this for centuries. Descartes made a “god-of-the-gaps” error in concluding (or surmising) that the pineal gland had to be the “seat” or location of the soul, as medicine could find no other function for it at the time.
    This article is fascinating and, I dare say, a bit “above my pay grade.” I will read and listen again. I believe the quantum physicists are onto something, but, the truth remains: The soul, being incorporeal and not dependent on physical matter, is immaterial and would, therefore, survive physical death. But these nano-tubules could provide evidence of something, some physical process, and it does.

    Let us also recall your previous post, Dr. Eowyn, of how the Virgin Birth of Jesus Christ, could have happened through physical means. Let us also go back and study and learn all we can about the Holy Shroud of Turin, for a few believe it contains the physical evidence that the Resurrection actually occurred in Historical Time.

    We are learning more and more with each decade, and quantum physics may provide certain keys to the mystery, or at least the puzzle. But let us keep in mind that no knowledge can occur without the Permission of Our Lord Himself. I believe it is happening, bit by bit.
    Now onto the Payday Question: HOW do I change my defective character? HOW do I successfully confront MYSELF? Dr. Ted Broer has said that prayers actually create and send out “scaler waves,” and he has explained how God can transcend dimensions at will. (And thanks to quantum physics, at least in part, some scientists believe there may be as many as 17 dimensions or more!)

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  8. NOPE!!! Humans do not HAVE souls, they ARE souls when alive and breathing. When we die, NOTHING REMAINS. Nothing survives our death. Our thoughts perish. From dust we came, and to dust we return. NOTHING, NO PART OF US, SURVIVES OUR DEATH.

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  9. Hearts are said to have neurons and memories. Check heart transplant patient experiences. So brain only Descartes thinking is suspect. Spirit is intellect and will and totally non material. So nanotube residency only is out. Love cannot be reduced to material only. Dan is right about Teilhard bogus thinking as well.

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  10. After death our spirit/soul is elevated from the confinemts of this earth in search of the glory of God the Almighty. Our souls live eternally.

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  11. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this most fascinating post. Science and theology can join together as has been above-referenced in this amazing post, to show that we have a soul, our spiritual self, and that it is not dependent upon the physical to exist. This conclusion by these physicists is absolutely exciting.

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