Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?

Friends, wrap your head with duct tape (to prevent it from exploding). It’s Down-the-Rabbit-Hole time!

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If you’re age 40 years or older, you’d probably remember January 28, 1986.

That was day of the Challenger disaster, when the NASA Space Shuttle orbiter Challenger broke apart 73 seconds into its flight over the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Cape Canaveral, Florida at 11:38 EST. All seven crew members were killed, including five NASA astronauts and two payload specialists.

Millions of Americans (17% of the total population) watched the launch live on TV because of Payload Specialist Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher in space. Media coverage of the explosion was extensive: one study reported that 85% of Americans surveyed had heard the news within an hour of the accident.

Challenger disaster

We were told that Challenger disintegrated because of a malfunctioning O-ring seal in its right solid rocket booster. The O-ring failure caused a breach in the SRB joint it sealed, allowing pressurized burning gas from within the solid rocket motor to reach the outside and impinge upon the adjacent SRB aft field joint attachment hardware and external fuel tank, leading to the structural failure of the external tank. Aerodynamic forces broke up the orbiter.

The crew compartment and many other vehicle fragments were eventually recovered from the ocean floor after a lengthy search and recovery operation. The exact timing of the death of the crew is unknown; several crew members are known to have survived the initial breakup of the spacecraft. But the shuttle had no escape system, and the impact of the crew compartment with the ocean surface was too violent to be survivable.

The disaster resulted in a 32-month hiatus in NASA’s shuttle program and the formation of the Rogers Commission, a special commission appointed by then President Ronald Reagan to investigate the accident. The commission found NASA’s organizational culture and decision-making processes had been key contributing factors to the accident.

These are the names of Challenger’s 7 crew members:

  1. Francis Richard Scobee, Commander
  2. Michael J. Smith, Pilot
  3. Ronald McNair, Mission Specialist
  4. Ellison Onizuka, Mission Specialist
  5. Judith Resnik, Mission Specialist
  6. Gregory Jarvis, Payload Specialist
  7. Christa McAuliffe, Payload Specialist

But wait!

What if someone were to tell you that most, if not all, of Challenger’s 7 crew members are still alive and thriving in their new professions, contrary to what we’ve been told?

That is the contention of simonshack and other contributors on the chat forum, CluesForum.info. They claim 6 of the 7 Challenger crew members are still alive; some even kept their names. Here’s their evidence. (Note: CluesForum.info referenced a short article by Darrell Foss on Opob News, “Was the Challenger disaster a hoax?,” March 2015, as their first source.)

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1. Francis Richard Scobee, Commander of Challenger Space Shuttle

Born on May 19, 1939, Commander Francis Richard Scobee was 46 when he died in the Challenger explosion. He would be 75 years old if he were alive today.

Strangely, there’s a man also named Richard Scobee, the CEO of a Chicago marketing-advertising company called Cows in Trees, who bears a striking resemblance (factoring in the 30-year timelapse) to Commander Richard Scobee — same high forehead, same eyebrows, same wide-set eyes that are slightly tilted down in their outer corners.

Richard Scobee

The source of the pic on the right of CEO Richard Scobee is his LinkedIn page.

If you go on Cows in Trees’ website, you’ll see an animation of a rocket-powered cow in the sky with swirling smoke shaped like the number 6, much like Space Shuttle Challenger as it was seen on TV exploding in mid-air. Wink, wink. CEO Richard Scobee sure has a sense of humor! /sarc

Cows in Trees & Challenger explosion

2. Michael J. Smith, Pilot of Challenger

Born on April 30, 1945, Challenger pilot Michael John Smith was 41 years old when he died in the explosion.

There’s a man also named Michael J. Smith, who bears a striking resemblance to astronaut Michael J. Smith — same horizontal eyebrows, same grey-blue eyes, same vertical indentation in the tip of the nose. This Michael J. Smith is a Professor Emeritus (retired) of Industrial and Systems Engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, whose email address is mjsmith@cae.wisc.edu

Michael_J_Smith_compared

Astronaut Michael J. Smith would be 70 years old if he were still alive today. Well, hot diggidy damn, there just happens to be a 69-year-old Michael J. Smith (the professor?) whose addresses include Madison, Wisconsin! (He’s #74 on this LookUpAnyone list.)

3. Ronald McNair, Challenger’s Mission Specialist

Born on Oct. 21, 1950, Challenger’s mission specialist Ronald McNair, the second African-American astronaut, with a Ph.D. in physics, would be 64 years old if he had not perished in the space shuttle explosion. If Ronald (l) were still alive today, he would look just like this pic of his brother, Carl (r).

Ronald McNair

Carl McNair is an author, education consultant and inspirational speaker. He is the founder and president emeritus of the Ronald E. McNair Foundation in honor of his brother. Here’s Carl’s LinkedIn page. (Please scroll down to my Update of May 9, 2015, for the results of my search on ancestry.com for the birth record(s) of Carl McNair.)

4. Ellison Onizuka, Challenger Mission Specialist

Another Challenger mission specialist, Ellison Onizuka, the first Japanese-American astronaut, also has a lookalike brother named Claude. Born on June 24, 1946 in Hawaii, Ellison would be 68 years old today if he had not died in the Challenger explosion. If Ellison were still alive, he would look just like this pic of his younger brother Claude — same eyebrows, same eyes, same crow’s feet wrinkles, same nose, even the same hair-parting.

Ellison and Claude Onizuka

Claude Onizuka is a Liquor Adjudication Board Member of the Department of Liquor Control, County of Hawaii, Hilo, Hawaii. (Please scroll down to my Update of May 9, 2015, for the results of my search on ancestry.com for the birth record(s) of Claude Onizuka.)

5. Judith Resnik, Challenger Mission Specialist

Born on April 5, 1949, Challenger mission specialist Judith Arlene Resnik, with a Ph.D. in electrical engineering, was the first Jewish American astronaut to go into space and the second female American astronaut. She would be 66 years old today if she had not died in the explosion.

If she were alive today, it is not difficult to imagine that after 29 years, astronaut Judith Resnik would look like Arthur Liman Professor of Law Judith Resnik at Yale Law School — dark curly hair, dark eyes, same eyebrow shape, same lines on both sides of the face extending up from the jaw.

Judith Resniks

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Simonshack draws our attention to how both Judith Resnicks’ upper lips form a slight peak (on their left) when they speak:

Judith Resniks2

I searched Ancestry.com for “Judith Resnik” whose birthday was April 5, 1949 (according to Wikipedia). While there are burials and obituaries for Judith Resnik who was born April 4 or 5, 1949 and died on Jan. 28, 1986 (see below the screenshot I took), I looked through Ancestry.com’s 241 death records for the last name Resnik but cannot find the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) for astronaut Judith Resnik or any other Judith Resnik. The only Resnik SSDIs I found are for Gerald Resnik, Paul Resnik, Sharon Resnik, Wulf Resnik, Michael Resnik, Charles Resnik, Stanley Resnik, Gary Resnik, Daniel Resnik, Donald Resnik, and Patricia Resnik. There is no SSDI for Judith Resnik.

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UPDATE (Sept. 10, 2015):

Here’s a YouTube video comparing the voices of astronaut Judith Resnick and Professor Judith Resnick (h/t FOTM reader CW). They are the same woman.

6. Sharon Christa McAuliffe, Challenger Payload Specialist

Born on Sept. 2, 1948, Sharon Christa McAuliffe was a social studies teacher at Concord High School in New Hampshire when she was selected from more than 11,000 applicants to participate in the NASA Teacher in Space Project. If Challenger had not exploded, she would be the first teacher in space. If she had not died in the Challenger disaster, McAuliffe would be 66 years old today.

Well, there’s a Sharon A. McAuliffe, an adjunct professor at Syracuse University College of Law, who kinda looks like an older astronaut McAuliffe, factoring in the 30 years timelapse. Look at the cowlick of hair, sweeping from the center of their hairlines to the left side of their foreheads.

Sharon McAuliffe

I searched Ancestry.com for the SSDI for “Sharon McAuliffe,” with the birthdate of Sept. 2, 1948. I found grave/burial indexes for Sharon Christa McAuliffe and an SSDI for a Sha McAuliffe. See screenshot I took below (click to enlarge):

Challenger - McAuliffe1

Simonshack points us that “It may also be entirely coincidental” that Syracuse law professor Sharon is a cousin of Terry McAuliffe, the current governor of Virginia who was co-chairman of President Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign and chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign. Terry McAuliffe, an advocate of gun control, is also very much concerned about NASA funding issues. See here and here.

In the end we need to ask ourselves this question:

It’s one thing that one of the Challenger’s crew members resembles someone alive today. For that, we can chalk it up to a coincidence.

It’s another thing entirely that SIX members of the Challenger crew have doppelgängers who are alive, in some cases with exactly the same names (Richard Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Judith Resnick, Sharon McAuliffe). What are the chances of that?

You don’t have to be an expert in mathematics to know that those odds defy statistical probability.

H/t FOTM’s Martha Trowbridge

Update (May 1, 2015):

On the genealogy website Ancestry.com, I found the SSDIs of Francis Richard Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Gregory Jarvis, and a “Sha McAuliffe” (see above in the section on McAuliffe), but not of Judith Resnik (as I explained above in the section on her above. Here are the screenshots I took of the SSDIs of Scobee, Smith, McNair, Onizuka, and Jarvis. (Click to enlarge)

Challenger - ScobeeChallenger - SmithChallenger - McNairChallenger - OnizukaChallenger - Jarvis

It should be said that although SSDI presumably has the imprimatur of the U.S. government, we still have reasons to be skeptical. I refer you to the curious case of Adam Lanza, who on Dec. 14, 2012, allegedly shot to death, first his mother Nancy, then 20 children and 6 adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. We are told that he then shot himself in the head minutes before the police arrived at the school.

Genealogy sites such as Ancestry.com initially had Adam Lanza’s SSDI with a date of death (DOD) as Dec. 13, 2012 — one day BEFORE the massacre. Then when bloggers discovered that strange DOD, the genealogy websites quickly changed his DOD to Dec. 14, 2012. See:

Update (May 9, 2015): The Search for 2 Brothers

Carl McNair

I searched on Ancestry.com for a “Carl McNair,” who claims to be the brother of astronaut Ronald McNair. Carl S. McNair’s LinkedIn page says his birthdate is Dec. 16; Wikipedia’s page on Ronald McNair says his parents are Carl C. and Pearl M. McNair.  So I asked Ancestry.com to search all “birth, baptism and christening” records for “Carl McNair,” born on Dec. 16, whose father is Carl McNair and mother is Pearl McNair.

Result of search: Just one record in Texas Birth Certificates 1903-1932, that of Herschel John McNair, born on 12 Oct 1912 – Rosewood, Upshur, whose father was William McNair and mother was Pearl Watkins.

In other words, according to Ancestry.com, there is no Carl McNair, brother of Ronald McNair. Here’s the screenshot I took of ancestry.com’s search results, with the time (10:18 AM) and date (5/9/2015) when I took it in the lower right corner (circled in red).

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Carl McNair

Just to be sure, I re-did my search for “Carl McNair,” this time without specifying the names of the parents. There were 8,850 results. So I narrowed the search to “Carl McNair,” whose father’s last name is McNair and whose mother’s first name is Pearl. That narrowed the results to 8,980, which include all persons whose last name is McNair or similar-sounding last names, e.g., McNare, McNear, Mackner. Of those 8,980 results, I found no Carl McNair whose father’s name is (also) Carl McNair and whose mother’s first name is Pearl.

No parent names were given for these 3 Carl McNairs:

  1. Carl W. McNair, b. Sept 2, 1950
  2. Carl F. McNair, b. Feb. 9, 1954
  3. Marcus Carl McNair, b. Dec. 23, 1952

Since astronaut Ronald McNair was born on Oct. 21, 1950, we can rule out #1 Carl W. McNair, born on Sept. 2, 1950, as Ronald’s brother. That leaves us with Carl. F. McNair and Marcus Carl McNair.

Claude Onizuka

I also asked Ancestry.com to search for the birth records of “Claude Onizuka,” the alleged brother of astronaut Ellison Onizuka. According to Wikipedia’s entry on Ellison Onizuka, his father was the late Masamitsu Onizuka, his mother is Mitsue Onizuka.

Result of search:  “Your search for Claude Onizuka returned zero good matches.”

Claude Onizuka1

Just to be sure, I re-did the search for “Claude Onizuka,” this time without putting in the names of the parents. There were 36 results, none of which is Claude Onizuka. In other words, according to Ancestry.com, no one named Claude Onizuka had ever been born in the United States.

~Éowyn

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364 responses to “Are the crew members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger still alive?

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  2. Are you, and the people who agree with you, partially sighted?!?

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    • No, we’re not. Thank you for asking.
      Are you blind and unable to see the striking similarities in the pictures of the Challenger crew and their doppelgangers?

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    • Yes, I am…and getting closer to blind day by day. Nevertheless, I can see perfectly that the crew members who allegedly died on the Challenger are very much alive and well, as evidenced by the photos in this article. NASA is staffed by consummate LIARS

      There is none so blind as he who will not see.

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  3. I am very thankful of this post for giving me more information about NASA which I believe the worst foundation in deceiving people..

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  4. I am prone to believe that this info is real. Now, lets think about the disaster and the crew still alive. I think that those who can plan such deceptions would have no qualms about killing seven people. So why let those seven still be alive with their normal names and such, rather than kill them in the crash? My guess is that from the beginning they were not meant to fly in the shuttle; they were meant to be a cover-up for what was really inside the shuttle. Hence something to be kept secret, maybe such as launching some star-wars weapons in space. But the shuttle and its real occupants exploded, while the false crew remained on Earth.

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  5. Very nice piece of research….my guess is this is the next Mandela Effect….well done.

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  6. Constance Sullivan

    Wow incredible, and yet obviously true due to your proof. So did NASA put anyone in space. Why hasn’t the press pushed the truth on this?

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  7. Valencia Hargrave

    The black guy (Ronald to Carl McNair) did not have a gap in his teeth in the first picture as an astronaut and the second picture there is a VISIBLE gap and teeth do not separate like that. You are either born with that gap and can have it closed but I’ve NEVER seen or heard of anyone going to the dentist to have a gap put in their mouth.

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  8. Here is video of lawyer Judith Resnik speaking alongside Joe Biden in 1987. Clearly she is not the same woman as the astronaut whose name we were told was Judith Resnik.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?10178-1/bork-nomination-day-9-part-5&start=1732

    This is not to reject all possibility of the Challenger Disaster as fake news, but to separate truth from fiction within the details. Yale Professor Judith Resnik clearly had her own high profile life going on in the 80’s, and as a young woman she looked nothing like the same-name astronaut.

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    • Although there is a clear resemblance, here is some info to support the comment that this professor from Yale is not the same woman. This does not discount this overall theory that the astronauts are still alive, or the other info in this article.

      In Jakes link, Judith Resnick is speaking to congress in 1987 and the screen identifies her as being from USC. Below is a link to Yale professor Judith Resnick getting an award in 2012 and the bio includes USC and speaking to congress. The award is from NYU law for alumnae of the month, saying she graduated in 1975.

      http://www.law.nyu.edu/alumni/almo/pastalmos/2011-12almos/judithresnikjune

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  11. No SSDI’ S For Michael J Smith Renik’,or Mccaullif.Michael J Smith of Univ.of Wisc.& the Astronaut Have the Same B.Date & B.Place.In A Small Town in the Carolinas.the Statistical Probability of These Abnormalitys Are Almost Astronomical

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  12. IT HAPPENED!!! I saw it with my own eyes in my front yard, i had a bad sinus infection and stayed home from work. I was laying on the couch watching cartoons when the news interrupted that the shuttle was about to launch. I ran outside in my shorts, t-shirt and flip flops and froze my butt off…it was abnormally way too cold for central florida…i stood on my lawn with my neighbor and watched in horror, we both just burst into tears. We had seen many many launches, but never like that one. We knew immediately they were all dead. I’ve seen many from my yard and 2 from the other side of the lake from the launch pad. YES, they do leave the ground, but i don’t know where they go after they disappear from my sight into the sky. When I heard NASA talk about a launch window I used to think they had cut a hole(an escape window) into the firmament or dome and they had to wait for it to line up just right for them to go through it into space…..I used pray for God to safety guide them through that hole so they wouldn’t crash into the dome. Not gonna say how old i was when i found out what they meant by launch window………Lets just say my dad couldn’t stop laughing when he heard his adult daughter and her launch window theory.

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    • Everyone know the explosions happened, that is not what this post is about. This post is saying that the 7 people who, supposedly, died were never actually on the ship.

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  13. Looking through the comments here I’m beginning to understand why Trump won…

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    • Since your IP address says you’re in Sweden, reading your comment, I finally know why Sweden is in the sorry state it’s in, so overrun by Muslims your shopping malls have become “no go” zones.
      https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/01/17/swedens-leading-shopping-mall-is-deemed-a-no-go-zone-with-police-blaming-gangs-of-migrants/

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      • anonymous_coward

        Not to my knowledge, and I live in Sweden. Media, both the official media and the ‘alternative’ media are very good at using statistics and such to prove their ‘truths’… It’s funny how people will always seek out things that prove their own views of the world, and easily dismiss things that would prove them wrong. I’ve had to change my views a number of times through the years, and I did so because I saw overwhelming proof. This is NOT overwhelming proof. To me this is about as conclusive as the proof put forward by some people claiming the earth is flat. Of course, if you actually ask follow-up questions, asking them to explain how this or that works, since it obviously has to work in a different way if everything we know about the earth is not true, they fall silent. Or fall back on their old arguments about cover-ups and lies from the powers that be. I just wonder if it was worth it, should this turn out to be true. I mean, the enormous cost of just blowing up a shuttle like that, for the sake of.. what exactly? As Sally pointed out, she, and many more, actually saw the launches. That’s a lot of money spent on an elaborate hoax going on for many, MANY years. To what end? It’s like the idea that some shadow government is controlling everyone… Really? A much simpler, and more plausible explanation is that a few big corporations, and the individuals with the most wealth in the world, use their wealth and influence to change national policies on a global scale. THAT is happening. But no, just like we have to add some god to the mix to explain what we can’t understand or explain, we have to invent some spooky conspiracy cabinet because we can’t fathom how things work. KISS is a good thing to live by – Keep It Simple Stupid. See also; Occam’s razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

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        • “This is NOT overwhelming proof.”
          Straw man argument. I never claimed this post to be “overwhelming proof”. What I did ask is the statistical probability that the Challenger crew would all have living doppelgangers with similar, in some cases identical, names. Since you’re so smart, certainly you would know about statistical probability/improbability.

          Two of your statements contradict each other:
          (1) “It’s like the idea that some shadow government is controlling everyone… Really?”
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          (2) “A much simpler, and more plausible explanation is that a few big corporations, and the individuals with the most wealth in the world, use their wealth and influence to change national policies on a global scale. THAT is happening.”

          “It’s funny how people will always seek out things that prove their own views of the world”
          “just like we have to add some god to the mix to explain what we can’t understand or explain, we have to invent some spooky conspiracy cabinet because we can’t fathom how things work. KISS is a good thing to live by – Keep It Simple Stupid.”

          And with those sneering sentences, you just destroyed whatever argumentative points you’d made and good will you might have earned. Your nose is so up in the air, you must drown when it rains.

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    • Lol, being an American citizen it pains me to say that your observation is not far for the truth, but may I suggest an alternate theory? They make up this “fantasy” and others like it because its much more comorting to live in a world where the Earth being round is a lie, still haven’t heard the reason why anyone would lie about that, and is now a conspiracy perpetrated by ever modern country that has been to space or has sent up a satellite.

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  14. McAuliffe pictures don’t really resemble each other, to my eye. Also, their bios don’t overlap in any respect (geographically, academically, or professionally).
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-a-mcauliffe-048281b
    This one does not seem like a match to me.

    Same goes for Scobee. It’s also hard to imagine that somebody with Scobee’s technical expertise would have gone into marketing.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-scobee-23875418.

    Re: Smith, the pics do have a better resemblance. But I can only assume that Michael J. Smith is a very common name and if you look at other pics of astronaut Smith, such as this one, the resemblance weakens: http://pics-about-space.com/astronaut-mike-smith-education?p=2#img7810721683258425105

    And here too, their bios don’t seem to overlap in any respect.
    http://www.luminsphere.com/wisc_engr/april03/professor.shtml
    (And though the other Smith’s profession is industrial engineering, it’s not the kind of ‘heavy duty’ technical engineering that you would have expected Smith the astronaut to go into.)

    But most importantly, to my eye there are some physical differences. The ears of astronaut Smith stick out. Their noses don’t really look alike, especially the nose of the other Smith, which looks generally wider and is fat at the tip with more pronounced indentation (the overall difference is more evident in the pic of the other Smith linked to in the prior paragraph). Also, the upper lip of the other Smith makes a faint v in the middle when he smiles, while that of astronaut Smith does not.

    So Smith does not seem like a match to me either.

    As for McNair and Onizuka, see relevant comments to this article: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/05/09/who-really-are-the-deadringer-brothers-of-dead-challenger-astronauts/

    (As to Resnik, see comments to this article.)

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  15. I’m curious how you would explain the legal publications that Prof Resnik authored as per her resume? https://www.law.yale.edu/system/files/documents/pdf/JResnik_Publications.pdf

    An example: one of the articles PRIOR to the Challenger disaster…. http://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4394&context=clr
    This article was written in 1985 at a time when Dr Resnik (Astronaut) was clearly in training for the Challenger

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    • This post is about the curious fact that the Challenger crew all seem to have living doppelgangers of the same ages if the crew members were still alive, in some cases with identical names. I ask questions; I don’t know what actually happened, nor do I have the answers to questions such as yours. I do find it curious that nobody from NASA, nor any of the doppelgangers, incl. Prof. Resnick, has come on FOTM to give their testimony.

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  16. This fascinating story leads to the next question regarding the coverup: Why? What would be the motivation for hiding the crew’s survival? Who or what benefits from this? Or what is jeopardized if the truth is known?

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    • Some thoughts…
      1) If the space program is real, and they knew the shuttle was going to blow up (but had to launch anyway), they would take the astronauts off beforehand. The public later learning that the astronauts were alive would expose that the space program is full of deception and waste.
      2) If the space program has been fake all along (and no one ever goes up to any altitude at all), then of course this would be exposed by everyone seeing live astronauts who were supposed to be dead.
      On a related note, most or all of the space station footage is faked in a giant pool of water, with backgrounds added later. They use the so-called training pool, which has full size replicas of all their stuff. This is why you’ll occasionally see bubbles whizzing past, and why people believe in UFOs (and a NASA coverup of the UFOs). They’re bubbles.

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  17. I think there is a good explanation for why they could all have survived the crash and continued on their lives in other careers, but everyone seems to be working out of the box the government has formed for them. If you step out of that box for a few minutes, it might seem possible, that it wasn’t these other careers that were developed, as they were possibly never astronauts to begin with. What if it was the astronauts who had the fake personas? Maybe there never was a genuine space program, and no one ever went to the moon? What if these people were all pretend astronauts and the government was deceiving all of us? Yes, it’s a bigger scam than the original premise.

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  18. NASA: Never A Space Adventure.

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  19. I’ll never forget sitting in my living room watching the launch when the Challenger exploded. The level of mental illness it would take to come up with this article is sad.

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    • The level of malevolence for you to insult me as mentally ill because I exercise my First Amendment right of free speech and my God-given right of free thinking by asking questions is not just sad, it speaks to your abysmal character.

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      • I have never taken the government at face value since I was able to reason for myself. I guess it is just a fault of mine. However, I remember watching the first man walking on the moon with national pride, like many of us. Now, these many years later, the thought has filled me completely, why have we never gone back? And I suspect that the answer is simply that we never went there in the first place. I know that there is supposed to be some sort of a beacon there that people can get a signal from, but I also know that now, the average Joe can build sophisticated telescopes and radios that can do amazing things. Heck, I have been a ham radio operator since I was a kid, and some of the things these people are doing amaze even me. And many of them are saying that the radiation would not allow a space craft to make it to the moon. These are people who are really smart, not just hacks like me. The idea of the government blowing up a shuttle for publicity is not an unrealistic notion to me. They had to somehow get out of the program, since they knew it had run it’s course. They just needed an excuse. I am just surprised that they didn’t simply sacrifice the astronauts. They have no qualms about doing that, so there must have been some reason for it. NASA has not really done much for us lately, but we continue to fund them. Does anybody wonder why? They are a fine way to funnel money to hidden programs, I suspect. I mean, who really knows how much it costs to send someone up to the ISS, which is a boondoggle for several countries. There are more questions with NASA than answers.

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        • “NASA has not really done much for us lately, but we continue to fund them. Does anybody wonder why? They are a fine way to funnel money to hidden programs, I suspect.”

          From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44359677#.Tm_C2Gr06Rw

          Craig Nelson, a space historian and author of “Rocket Men: The Epic Story of the First Men on the Moon” (Viking 2009), said, “The space budget at the Pentagon is much bigger than NASA’s budget. They launch missions all the time and they don’t reveal hardly any of it. They have their own launch pad next to NASA’s in Florida, and another launch pad in California.”

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    • And I bet you still believe the official lie that the Twin towers just fell like a controlled demolition, and that bldg. 7 just blew itself up in sympathy too, right? Go away govt troll, or just go back to watching CNN.

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  21. Why would they do this? Were they planning on blaming some ‘foreign power’ for the explosion and then called it off after the fact?
    I don’t doubt the veracity of this article, just wondering why the govt and nasa would even do this. Very interesting to say the least! And to quote the cliché, “Truth is stranger than fiction”….

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  23. that turns my stomach. I believe I was in 1st grade when that happened and that’s so disturbing to put a country through that. What sickens me even more is the sandy hook school massacre. Do you know who really committed the massacre? Thank you for writing this article. I’m sure you have to put up with a lot of abuse from close minded people but it is very courageous of you. I appreciate and respect your writings and thank you.

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  25. Interestingly, this was enough to get me digging deeper into the subject, out of curiosity. I think, however I found something compelling to see that these two “Judy Resnik”s are not the same.

    Please compare:
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?10178-1/bork-nomination-day-9-part-5

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  26. The Older “Resnik” probably has same name but if you had seen Judy in person you would know there is little resemblance

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  27. That’s true, but I am in my 60’s and I bet most people would say there’s any resemblance to the person I was in my 20’s.

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  28. psyop of inestimable value and effect

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  29. its so strange that they hide this from the world

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  30. I am very thankful of this post for giving me more information about NASA which I believe the worst foundation in deceiving people..

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  32. Can the astronauts’ pictures be checked against their suspected doubles’ pictures using the eye-tooth ratio as described in the video linked on your story about Hillary’s body doubles? https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/02/18/hillary-clinton-had-special-lighting-for-all-her-campaign-appearances/

    video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYV0klJrUEw

    The ratios would be powerful evidence if the same, and conclusive evidence if different.

    Does anybody have a graphics program through which they check?

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    • Curious,

      There are so many comments on this post that some of them are on other pages. In an older page of comments, a reader Triuwida, who is an engineer, did calculate the ratios for some of the Challenger crew and found they and their doppelgangers to be the same persons. See his first comment here, then scroll down for his other comments.

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    • You can do a screenshot (shift+PrntScr), then paste into “Paint.” Zoom in and draw a line between the pupils, then a line down to the bottom of the top teeth. Compare the line lengths.

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  34. I am a big fan of your work but it has been proven that these are 2 different Judith Resniks. This should be updated.

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    • If only one Challenger astronaut is alive, then NASA is a criminal enterprise. Perhaps they exist only for money laundering? What are the chances that six astronauts have such amazing doppelgangers, all of the correct age?

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      • I agree NASA is a money laundering scheme that’s fakes almost everything they do, I also agree there is something very shady with the challenger disaster and this is a hoax in some way. But the 2 Judith Resniks in question have been proven to be 2 different people and it is important to update this information and make people aware of this, just like it is important in making them aware of all the other anomaly’s with this case. Its a 2 way street.

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  35. The way the screwy government ‘works’, they could have used the fake explosion in order to just get a spiffy newer space shuttle.

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  36. Pineal Visiom

    It seems pretty clear to me that this was a psyop, distracting from whatever was going on at the time, while forcing the majority of school children in the US to watch a teacher explode on live television in a massive display of trauma based mind control. Traumatized people (and children) are very easy to manipulate and control, as evidenced by the successful and disturbing Monarch Project. False flags are a system of governance that most governments in the world have utilized to one extent or another for millennia. This is not a secret anymore. I was in first grade when the Challenger exploded. My entire elementary school was seated on the floor in the cafeteria to watch the first teacher go to space and I know that most public schools were in similar formation. Children all over the country were lined up to watch this highly traumatizing event. I remember not really understanding what was happening, and I also remember that an older student fainted and that there were many children and adults in hysterics as we were herded like cattle out of the cafeteria. Whether the “astronauts” are alive or not seems secondary to the fact that there was a sadistic agenda and that this was no accident. Crisis acting had become quite a career for some people and it would not be surprising in the least if none of them were actually on the ship. It would appear that Hitler lived out his days in Argentina. Why not these guys?

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  37. I dont know what to believe really after just watching the documentry and being quite overwhelmed by the tapes…i thought i would do a bit of research..then i find out all these conspiracy theories i never knew existed were around.
    ..and all by extremly educated people who have done so much research into it… its quite fascinating looking at these photos..but with photoshop who knows…anyway fascinating stuff guys…

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  38. Elliott Evans

    Well,interesting..but it begs the question how and why..? If they survived,howvdid they do so..? Probably weren’t on the shuttle at all,sort of Capricorn One scenario…then the next question is why…why did NASA do it..? What could they gain from it all..? Why were the astronauts allowed to then continue with their lives under their own names..,? Further research maybe needed..I would point out that BDM registries, and Ancestry.com are not very reliable sources..but interesting nontheless

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  39. It was done to bring an end to NASA’s own lies concerning their whole space programme. I think they were becoming alarmed at the fact that there were too many embarrassing questions being asked about it and that they were close to being rumbled. They realised they were not going to be able to justify their demands for billions more dollars for an obvious fraud which they feared was about to be split wide open by too many sceptical voices. A “disaster” such as this was the best way out.

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    • Wyatt, what were the embarrassing questions being asked, and how was NASA close to being rumbled? Were the questions about the space shuttle itself, or about the photoshopped/faked space missions? We are still sending billions to NASA, so I guess they achieved their goal of hoodwinking the public?

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  40. It’s always telling how badly some wish to hold onto fantasy regardless of the evidence. SHES is just like this, along with a host of other hoaxes that would fill a news cycle.

    The game is to present images and sound bites that can be easily manufactured and then attack the “belief” of the audience. I call it “faith-based news”. No evidence, just invective for those who refuse to proclaim their faith in the propagandists.

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