Mediate: Carson on Monday challenged Sharpton to a public debate on how violence across America can be tapered down, using the unrest in Ferguson, Mo., as a launching point.
“I had an opportunity to speak with Reverend Sharpton a couple months ago at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner,” Carson said on Fox News, “and said, ‘we want the same kinds of things but we have very different approaches to achieving them. What do you think about a public debate to talk about the various ways that we can get this done?’”
Carson said Sharpton was “initially enthusiastic” about the offer but they have yet to schedule a debate. “But the offer still stands,” he said. Carson is a Fox News contributor while Sharpton hosts a primetime show on MSNBC.
Sharpton has led rallies in Ferguson over the killing of unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown. Brown, who is black, was shot dead by a white officer last Saturday.
Sharpton has been accused of amping up the unrest in Ferguson, which has led to rioting and looting, according to police. We’ve requested comment from a Sharpton spokeswoman.
UPDATE — 11:48 p.m. ET: Sharpton’s spokeswoman got back to us shortly after this post published and told us Sharpton is unaware of Carson’s offer to a public debate. She said, however, that Sharpton has invited Carson onto his MSNBC program in the past and Carson has declined. The spokeswoman said Sharpton’s offer is “an open invitation” to Carson.
Bring it on!
The United Federation of Teachers sent an “action alert” e-mail that even promised free transportation to Sharpton’s Aug. 23 demonstration that is billed as a march for justice for “victims of police brutality.”
Some teachers were furious that the union would take such a prominent role in the event. “What a disgrace. What is going on with the leadership of the UFT thinking it’s OK to protest against rank-and-file cops?” asked one teacher. “Would we want cops protesting in front our schools over low test scores?”
The union is one of four sponsors of the rally, which will feature the family of Eric Garner — a 43-year-old who died last month after an NYPD chokehold during an arrest for selling loose cigarettes.
Sharpton’s National Action Network, the NAACP and local 1199 SEIU — a strong supporter of Mayor de Blasio — are also members of the coalition.
But the mayor won’t be attending the protest. He had earlier cautioned organizers against attempting to march en masse across the bridge, which has no pedestrian walkway.
“Mr. Garner’s death was a tragedy for the city,” UFT President Michael Mulgrew said when asked about the union’s involvement. “Teachers want to help ensure that something like this doesn’t happen again.”
March organizers said the union is not helping fund transportation across the Verrazano Bridge from Brooklyn.
One top NYPD union leader said he’s troubled by the UFT’s actions. “Mulgrew is always on the wrong side of the issues, and I’m not surprised,” said Ed Mullins, head of the police sergeants union. “The UFT has other issues. This is not their issue.”
A flier for the rally — attached to a UFT e-mail sent to its membership — proclaims the rally a ”March for Justice for Victims of Police Brutality!” It adds: “We Will Not Go Back.”
This wouldn’t be the first time the teachers union rallied against police action. Five hundred of its members joined a June 2012 march protesting the city’s unequal implementation of stop-and-frisk.
Do you remember that strange incident last October 3, when a young black woman, with her toddler child in the back seat, was gunned down by D.C. police and security officers after a harrowing car chase from the White House?
Her name is Miriam Carey.
Wikipedia describes her as a 34-year-old dental hygienist from Stamford, Connecticut, who attempted to drive through a White House security checkpoint in her black Infiniti G37 coupe, striking one of the White House barriers at the intersection of 15th St. and E St. NW across from Pennsylvania Avenue. She then struck a U.S. Secret Service officer, who fell on the hood of the car and rolled off. Secret Service chased Carey to the Capitol building where she was fatally shot by law enforcement officers. An 18-month-old child, Carey’s daughter, was found unharmed in the car.
On the day of the incident, Carey was supposed to be taking her daughter to a doctor’s appointment in Connecticut. The FBI found two medications in her apartment, as well as a laptop, a flash drive and three nonfunctional cell phones. Federal officials said she may have suffered from schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and believed Barack Obama was communicating with her. Federal officials said no weapons were found in the car.
Esther Goldberg writes for The American Spectator on Oct. 27, 2013:
According to the Oct. 14 Hartford Courant, the police report describes Miriam’s driving as “erratic.” Rather than stopping at a security checkpoint near the White House, she turned around and left, knocking down a policeman in her confused effort to escape. A car chase ensued, with police firing at her moving car, and when Miriam’s car was finally blocked in so she could not move, the police fired into her car, killing her. She didn’t have a chance.
Was Miriam “a potential assassin or a confused, frightened person suffering from mental illness trying to get herself out of danger,” the Courant asks. It doesn’t answer the question, and the doubt it expresses suggests that it’s open season on people who have small accidents with a barrier near the White House. When in doubt forget the presumption of innocence, shoot to kill.
A similar note of doubt has also begun to creep into the opinions of the intellectuals and experts who had previously been certain that Miriam was a potential killer. In an October 10Washington Post opinion piece, John Jay professor James Mulvaney suggested that if a suspect doesn’t obey an officer’s command, they should “try a different approach…..Try a request instead of an order. Shouting like an Army drill sergeant can be counterproductive…” And that doesn’t even begin to describe what happened. Instead, there was a wild police chase, with a half dozen policemen shouting at Miriam and waving military grade weapons.
So maybe Miriam wasn’t a “potential assassin.” For the police apologists, maybe she was simply suffering from a mental illness. I wasn’t aware that that was grounds for execution, but then I’m a little out of touch with modern theories of capital punishment. The problem, however, is where is the proof? The press has jumped on this, with the same absolute certainty with which they had previously identified her as a killer, but where’s the evidence? Her doctor hasn’t confirmed that she was unbalanced. Her sisters and friends deny it. Prescriptions for the anti-depressants Risperidone and Lexapro were found in Miriam’s apartment. Big deal. Over half the country must be on one form or other of these medications.
In the video below, Rev./Dr. James David Manning refers to a phone interview he had with Miriam’s sister, Valarie Carey, who is a retired New York City police sergeant, and points out many oddities about Miriam’s death:
That last question is what prompted Valarie Carey to wonder if her sister’s 18-month-old daughter is Barack Obama’s “love child.”
To answer that question, Valarie Carey and Rev. Manning are demanding a paternity test of Miriam’s daughter, and that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder conduct an investigation into the death of Miriam Carey. Click here for Valarie’s petition.
H/t FOTM’s swampygirl7 for the video.
Half a year after Miriam Carey was shot to death, her family finally obtained the toxicology and autopsy report, prepared by Dr. Nikki Mourtzinos of the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for the District of Columbia.
Carey family attorney Eric Sanders said the report shows Miriam was shot IN THE BACK OF HER HEAD, and that there were no drugs in Carey’s system, prescription or otherwise. Read more on WND, here.
Once again, I ask:
Why are black race-hustlers like Al Sharpton and Charles Rangel silent about Miriam’s shooting death IN THE BACK OF HER HEAD, when they normally raise a hue-and-cry about any alleged police mistreatment of blacks?
Twenty-five years after accusing an innocent man of rape, Tawana Brawley is finally paying for her lies.
Last week, 10 checks totaling $3,764.61 were delivered to ex-prosecutor Steven Pagones — the first payments Brawley has made since a court determined in 1998 that she defamed him with her vicious hoax.
A Virginia court this year ordered the money garnisheed from six months of Brawley’s wages as a nurse there.
She still owes Pagones $431,000 in damages. And she remains defiantly unapologetic.
“It’s a long time coming,” said Pagones, 52, who to this day is more interested in
extracting a confession from Brawley than cash.
OUTRAGE: Tawana Brawley attends an Atlanta rally with Al Sharpton in 1988, three months before a jury would rule that her rape tale was a hoax. She had been lying low until The Post last December found her living in Virginia.
NO E$CAPE: Tawana Brawley arrives at her nursing job in Richmond, Va., where she had been evading payment of defamation damages
Every week, she’ll think of me,” he told The Post. “And every week, she can think about how she has a way out — she can simply tell the truth.”
Brawley’s advisers in the infamous race-baiting case — the Rev. Al Sharpton, and attorneys C. Vernon Mason and Alton Maddox — have already paid, or are paying, their defamation debt. But Brawley, 41, had eluded punishment.
She’s now forced to pay Pagones $627 each month, possibly for the rest of her life. Under Virginia law, she can appeal the wage garnishment every six months.
“Finally, she’s paying something,” said Pagones’ attorney, Gary Bolnick. “Symbolically, I think it’s very important — you can’t just do this stuff without consequences.”
Pagones filed for the garnishment with the circuit court in Surry County, Va., in January, a few weeks after The Post tracked down Brawley to tiny Hopewell, Va.
Before The Post came knocking, not even her own co-workers knew she was the teen behind the spectacular 1987 case.
“I don’t want to talk to anyone about that,” Brawley growled after a Post reporter confronted her about her sordid past in December.
Employing aliases including Tawana Thompson and Tawana Gutierrez, she leads a relatively normal life by all appearances, residing in a neat brick apartment complex and working as a licensed practical nurse at The Laurels of Bon Air in Richmond.
She’s also raising a daughter, a neighbor said.
Brawley was spotted one morning emerging from her house with a young girl and a man dressed in hospital scrubs.
They left in separate cars — Brawley in a Chrysler Sebring and the man and child in a Ford Taurus. Brawley arrived at work about 30 minutes later, and the man pulled into the same lot minutes afterward.
She was only 15 when she claimed she was the victim of a crime whose shocking brutality sparked a national outrage and stoked racial tensions.
The two-decade-long saga that nearly ruined Pagones’ life and career began on Nov. 28, 1987, when Brawley was found in a trash bag, with the words “n—-r” and “b—h” scrawled on her body in feces.
In her first meetings with police, the teenager responded to questions with blank expressions, nods and by scrawling notes. She said she had been abducted by two white men, who dragged her into the woods where four other white men were waiting.
But Brawley, a cheerleader, didn’t offer much detail. She didn’t give police names or detailed descriptions of the men she claimed had brutalized her almost nonstop for four days.
What she did share — that one attacker had blond hair, a holster and a badge — sparked a media firestorm in New York City, which was still reeling from the killing of a black youth in Howard Beach, Queens, by a white mob.
Firebrands Maddox and Mason and a relatively unknown Sharpton jumped into the fray. Within weeks, a suspect emerged — Fishkill Police Officer Harry Crist Jr., who had been found dead in his apartment three days after the Brawley “attack.”
But Pagones, a Dutchess County prosecutor at the time, defended his dead friend Crist, offering an alibi for the cop — they were Christmas-shopping together on one of the days in question. And on the three other days of the “kidnapping,” Crist was on patrol, working at his other job at IBM, and installing insulation in an attic.
Brawley’s handlers then claimed — without proof — that Pagones was part of the white mob that kidnapped and raped the girl 33 times.
Celebrities lined up to support Tawana, including Bill Cosby, who posted a $25,000 reward for information on the case; Don King, who promised $100,000 for Brawley’s education; and Spike Lee, who in his 1989 film, “Do the Right Thing,” included a shot of a graffiti message reading, “Tawana told the truth.”
A grand jury reached a different conclusion. The jurors, who heard from 180 witnesses over seven months, concluded in 1988 that the entire story was a hoax.
They determined Brawley had run away from home and concocted the story — most likely to avoid punishment from her stepfather, Ralph King, who had spent seven years in prison in the 1970s for killing his first wife.
Crist’s suicide was unrelated; he killed himself over a failed romance.
“It is probable that in the history of this state, never has a teenager turned the prosecutorial and judicial systems literally upside-down with such false claims,” state Supreme Court Justice S. Barrett Hickman wrote at the time.
For Pagones, the damage was done. His marriage unraveled, and he ended up leaving his job as a prosecutor. He continued to proclaim his innocence, making it his life’s mission to bring Brawley and her advisers to justice — and compel them to tell the truth.
In 1998, he won his defamation lawsuit. Maddox was found liable for $97,000, Mason for $188,000, and Sharpton for $66,000 — money that was paid by celebrity lawyer Johnnie Cochran and other benefactors.
Sharpton, now a national figure, has never apologized for his role in the hoax. Mason, an ordained minister who hasn’t practiced law since being disbarred in 1995, has remained mostly silent.
But Maddox, whose law license was suspended in 1990, continues the drumbeat for Brawley. He even tried to petition the Surry County court to halt the garnishment of Brawley’s wages.
He maintained that in New York, where the defamation case took place, two sets of laws apply.
“The common law applies to whites. The slave code still applies to blacks,” he said.
In a July 22 legal brief signed by Brawley and submitted by Maddox, Brawley contends she wouldn’t submit herself to the court’s jurisdiction because an appearance in the court, “which inferentially sympathizes with the Confederate States of America, would be contrary to the US Constitution and would amount to a ‘badge of slavery.’ ”
Brawley did not return messages seeking comment.
Pagones is still licensed to practice law but is now a principal at a New York-based private-investigation firm. He has remarried, has three daughters and a son, and lives in Dutchess County.
Brawley was ordered in 1998 to fork over $190,000 at 9 percent annual interest. She now owes a total of about $431,492 — a sum she could be paying for the rest of her life.
Or maybe not.
Pagones said he’d forgive the debt if Brawley admits the truth.
“I’m willing to consider anything,” he said.
Eric Holder 02-18-2009
OK, Eric let’s discus the state of racial relations in this country since you and your boss started healing us.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury (FOTM), I’d like to throw a few things out and see what you guys think.
First this Zimm/Martin Trial is really getting under my skin. I do not know what happened, but it seems it does not matter to a certain segment of society who have threatened to riot and murder win, lose or draw. How di you feel about that?
I would really like to reach out to some of our silent readers on this. Especially if you happen to be black. Please help me understand the mentality/hatred of Zimmerman (now called a “white Hispanic” by CNN) and of all “whites”.
Also how has the media slanted all this. How badly have they played the racial angle?
What about people like Sharpton and Jackson? If people are hurt/killed, should they not be held responsible?
Eric Holder, where are you on this? Freeing more Black Panthers?
Speaking of which don’t you think it might/should be against the law to hand out “Wanted” posters on Zimmerman like the New Black Panthers did?
Last but not least, do you think our great Unifier (“If I had a son he’d look like Trayvon”) should maybe make some kind of statement calling for calm?
These are just some random thoughts to get things going. What else is bugging ya about the whole mess?
Feel free to have a good ole RANT!!!. Just keep it somewhat clean.
Have fun, shred someone, and just be nice to each other. Woe be any troll who stumbles upon here by intent or accident. We will smush you, you are forewarned.
Have a lovely weekend.